Quote from: D3fanboy on March 03, 2025, 10:09:52 AMBGSU's head coach abrutly left to take the QB coach job with the Eagles, and a couple of Purple Raiders are listed as possibilities

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6168030/2025/03/01/bowling-green-football-job-profile-candidates/

QuoteMount Union head coach Geoff Dartt is 56-4 at the Division III Ohio powerhouse. Though the program hasn't won a national title since 2017, Dartt has reached the national championship game twice in the last three years, including last season. The former Mount Union player has spent all but one year since 2017 with the Purple Raiders. Lance Leipold made the move from Division III to the MAC and won at Buffalo. Could another coach do the same?

Toledo defensive coordinator Vince Kehres was Mount Union's head coach from 2013 to 2019, winning two Division III national titles. The 48-year-old knows Ohio through and through, and he regularly has produced one of the top three defenses in the MAC since arriving in 2020.

Vince seems like a perfect candidate for the job

Quote from: Dr. Acula on February 28, 2025, 11:38:09 AMThe other thing is that a large indoor facility benefits all sports and, in turn, all athletic recruiting.  And if you do something like Muskingum where you're integrating the indoor athletics facility with the separate space for the main student body fitness/rec space it's a recruiting advantage for almost any potential student.

Muskingum's facility is almost identical to what Mount Union has had since 2009. The Mcpherson building houses a 200m indoor track. The infield didn't have turf when I was in school but it feels like that's the only difference.

It would be an incredibly hard pitch to donors to get a dedicated full size indoor football field since we've got an indoor facility already that can service other sports.

Quote from: D3fanboy on February 27, 2025, 03:14:26 PM

Quote from: SPECIAL TEAMS STARTER on February 27, 2025, 01:52:12 PMthat, and the #2 spot in the OAC (nearly a guaranteed playoff spot) being wide open had to be intriguing.  If Etta, Berg, BW, ONU, etc are all racing for that spot, it'd be hard to pick anyone but Etta

D3fan is right on and to my dissappointment being an ONU alum I think we can count ONU out of the race. They hired an outstanding coach and staff but the administration is just too reluctant to spend or raise any funds for athletic facilitiy improvements. Nothing has been done to the 18,000 sqquare ft. sports center in over 30 years. Compare that to Musky's 120,000 Sq. ft. Bullock Health & Wellness Center and Berg's new 110,000 Sq. ft. Athletics & Health Center and that really puts ONU coaches behind the eight ball when they are trying to recruit athletes to compete in the OAC. It's gotten so bad that they don't even want to maintain buildings used for general offices and academics such as Hill Memorial. I'm a frustrated Polar Bear.

after seeing what JCU and Berg are building, what Muskie built, etc...I'm concerned that Mount Union is getting passed by in the facility game, Gulling might just not cut it any longer.  If other OAC schools are putting in 50-60 yard indoor fields, Mount should have a full-length indoor facility.  The Capers Football Center is great for coaching/team meetings/film but I think it's time for the Sirianni-Garcon-Harter Indoor Athletic Facility to be built.  It's an arms race, and Mount Union cannot lose

Mount has like 3 full-length practice fields outside the stadium, I'm not sure having an indoor football facility probably doesn't add that much value.

Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 14, 2025, 10:54:05 AM

Quote from: WRMUalum13 on February 13, 2025, 06:25:29 PMSo, not realy a critique but moreso curious, why no article about former D3 player coaches super bowl winning team? I saw the BW press release about their assistant coach, surprised no Sirianni love on the homepage.

Right -- BW posted its own release directly on our site. All of the schools have that access.

We did recognize in social media, obviously. In February, it's really difficult to pull time away from D3hoops.com to create something from scratch for D3football, and that's the case going back decades. Sorry.

Ahh okay didn't realize schools can release directly, so I need to call my alma mater and complain that they aren't promoting this achievement properly! Anyway like I said not a critique, I figured there was a good reason, thanks for the insight into how it works.

So, not realy a critique but moreso curious, why no article about former D3 player coaches super bowl winning team? I saw the BW press release about their assistant coach, surprised no Sirianni love on the homepage.

Congrats to Coach Sirianni! First UMU alum to coach a Super Bowl winning team (as a head coach) We didn't get a Stagg Bowl this year but an alum winning a Super Bowl is an excellent consolation prize

Quote from: Kira & Jaxon's Dad on January 31, 2025, 10:46:58 AMLooks like Wayne Ruby might have signed with the Saskatchewan Roughriders of the CFL:

https://x.com/quick6wayne/status/1885351836141367804?s=46

Awesome! Hope he does well. He definitely has next level hands and athleticism. My only critique from a pro perspective is I don't know if has next level speed.

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Quote from: D3fanboy on January 23, 2025, 07:57:36 PM

Quote from: Dr. Acula on January 23, 2025, 07:52:19 PMExactly.  IMO the biggest remaining hurdle between the farce of the players getting paid for NIL only and being an employee on payroll is the universities/NCAA still laughably claiming the athletes are not employees just amateur athletes.  Eventually I would think it ends in revenue sharing where the university sets aside a % of their athletics revenue for player payroll.  NIL could still be paid in addition to that I'd imagine so the gap between the haves and have nots will remain, but it sets a floor for everyone. 

Quote from: D3fanboy on January 23, 2025, 05:06:37 PM

Quote from: WRMUalum13 on January 23, 2025, 03:52:02 PM

Quote from: Dr. Acula on January 21, 2025, 09:10:22 AMIt'd definitely be interesting.  I wonder if/when the athletes become employees of the schools it will be public as it is (or used to be at least) for all state employees?  There used to be a database where you could look up state employees, teachers, etc.  Basically anyone funded by tax dollars.  I showed it to one of my buddies that worked at OSU and he texted me the next day telling me he spent his entire day at work looking up what other people at OSU made.

Keep in mind the schools are not actually paying these players. They are getting paid by outside organizations for the value of their "name image and likeness" for promotional purposes

for now.  Revenue sharing is coming very, very soon

lets hope that the professionalism of the top level of college sports doesnt leak all the way down to D3.  but I'm not hopeful

Hopefully UMHB gets out of D3 before that is approved.  Handing out old Subarus in the shadows is one thing, I doubt anyone could keep up with the legal handouts down there.

There's not enough money in D3 athletics for it to leak down this far! It's $25 to go to a championship game for pete's sake.

Sure, there are a few kids making a little off of true NIL deals, like on opendorse, but I'm not seeing 6 figure payrolls or anything in D3... ever.

I mean there aren't even very good NIL deals at the top levels of FCS as far as I can tell. There just isn't a big enough donor base. I doubt MAC football players are even getting very much NIL.

Many MAC schools don't even operate a profitable athletic department, so profit sharing wouldn't even work. Kent State for example lost over 1 million dollars on athletics last year.



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It only takes one guy with some spare change and a willingness to spend it.  Does the name "McLane" ring a bell?

Only in the context of diehard tbh

Quote from: D3fanboy on January 29, 2025, 12:51:24 PMthere was a little talk/reminiscing about Mount Union night games recently.  with Wheaton putting out their 2025 schedule, including a 1:00 EST kickoff in Alliance, it doesn't seem like we'll be getting any night games for at least another season.  BW at the end of September would be the only other shot

Wheaton, @GC, BW is a real quick get down to business start to the year for the Purple Raiders

the last one I remember that at least ended at night was the 2012 semi final against UMHB, for some reason the ESPN stagger was weird that year and kickoff was 2pm.

Quote from: D3fanboy on January 23, 2025, 07:57:36 PM

Quote from: Dr. Acula on January 23, 2025, 07:52:19 PMExactly.  IMO the biggest remaining hurdle between the farce of the players getting paid for NIL only and being an employee on payroll is the universities/NCAA still laughably claiming the athletes are not employees just amateur athletes.  Eventually I would think it ends in revenue sharing where the university sets aside a % of their athletics revenue for player payroll.  NIL could still be paid in addition to that I'd imagine so the gap between the haves and have nots will remain, but it sets a floor for everyone. 

Quote from: D3fanboy on January 23, 2025, 05:06:37 PM

Quote from: WRMUalum13 on January 23, 2025, 03:52:02 PM

Quote from: Dr. Acula on January 21, 2025, 09:10:22 AMIt'd definitely be interesting.  I wonder if/when the athletes become employees of the schools it will be public as it is (or used to be at least) for all state employees?  There used to be a database where you could look up state employees, teachers, etc.  Basically anyone funded by tax dollars.  I showed it to one of my buddies that worked at OSU and he texted me the next day telling me he spent his entire day at work looking up what other people at OSU made.

Keep in mind the schools are not actually paying these players. They are getting paid by outside organizations for the value of their "name image and likeness" for promotional purposes

for now.  Revenue sharing is coming very, very soon

lets hope that the professionalism of the top level of college sports doesnt leak all the way down to D3.  but I'm not hopeful

Hopefully UMHB gets out of D3 before that is approved.  Handing out old Subarus in the shadows is one thing, I doubt anyone could keep up with the legal handouts down there.

There's not enough money in D3 athletics for it to leak down this far! It's $25 to go to a championship game for pete's sake.

Sure, there are a few kids making a little off of true NIL deals, like on opendorse, but I'm not seeing 6 figure payrolls or anything in D3... ever.

I mean there aren't even very good NIL deals at the top levels of FCS as far as I can tell. There just isn't a big enough donor base. I doubt MAC football players are even getting very much NIL.

Many MAC schools don't even operate a profitable athletic department, so profit sharing wouldn't even work. Kent State for example lost over 1 million dollars on athletics last year.

Quote from: Dr. Acula on January 21, 2025, 09:10:22 AMIt'd definitely be interesting.  I wonder if/when the athletes become employees of the schools it will be public as it is (or used to be at least) for all state employees?  There used to be a database where you could look up state employees, teachers, etc.  Basically anyone funded by tax dollars.  I showed it to one of my buddies that worked at OSU and he texted me the next day telling me he spent his entire day at work looking up what other people at OSU made.

Keep in mind the schools are not actually paying these players. They are getting paid by outside organizations for the value of their "name image and likeness" for promotional purposes

Quote from: NCC2010 on January 17, 2025, 04:01:04 PM

Quote from: D3fanboy on January 17, 2025, 03:04:51 PM

Quote from: Pat Coleman on January 17, 2025, 02:50:13 PMPeak competitiveness among two top teams, anyway.

I'm sure that you'll use Logan's stats and and PR type of answer, but you really think that today's national champs would stand a chance against those UWW/Mount teams from the decade plus of dominance?

Imagine the UFL signings from those teams if it was a thing.... you'd be tweeting non-stop

This is completely anecdotal evidence on my part but I played against UWW in 2010 quarters when they won the title, we ended up losing 20-10 after entering the 4th qtr with a 10-7 lead.  Same amount Mount lost by in the Stagg a few weeks later, granted we were at home and not neutral field like Mount. I also played @ UWW in 2007 but that game was not as competitive. 

IMO, the NCC teams of the past few years would've crushed the teams I was on, in part due to the fact they had a bunch of 22-24 year olds.  Not saying they would beat those Mount or UWW teams but I at least think it would've been competitive given that these teams since 2020 have had a bunch of 5th/6th year players and it was pretty rare back then.

Fully agree both Mount and UWW were amazingly talented during that era, just offering my personal experience for comparison. 

The age thing makes a lot of sense, but it also feels like those Mount / UWW teams had a lot more NFL prospects than this current NCC dynasty, Not sure that's a perfect metric for talent though.

Driskill signed a FA contract with the Colts

https://www.cantonrep.com/story/sports/college/2013/04/30/nick-driskill-signs-free-agent/42236254007/
 

Charles Diuesel, Chris Denton and Junior Collins
https://www.cantonrep.com/story/sports/college/2013/04/28/three-mount-union-players-sign/42219973007/


Yeah that 2012 team was loaded with talent.

Quote from: emma17 on January 17, 2025, 01:44:09 PMOh man, Nick Driskill. Reminds me of Ted Lasso - Roy Kent chant.  He's here, he's there, he's every f^%}**€ing where!!
Great player.

Oh yeah he was awesome, that dude was a beast. That whole 2012 team was stacked on Defense. If I remember they had more players get NFL looks than Kent or Akron that year.

Quote from: Kira & Jaxon's Dad on January 16, 2025, 12:49:53 PMIt's a Travesty that Bill Borchert isn't in the College Football HOF:

Overall Record:  50-3 as a starter (28-0 and two Nattys his Jr-Sr years)
Four Time OAC Champion
Two Time National Champion
1997 Gagliardi Trophy Winner
Total Passing Yards: 14,482
Touchdown Passes: 189
Total Offense: 15,308

He also still has the NCAA record for TD passes in a season If I remember correctly