Quote from: AndOne on November 02, 2017, 04:41:46 PM
You "helped Brandon and his team navigate the Chicagoland recruiting scene." But, you're not the least bit associated with the firm? You don't in any way help promote kids under their stewardship? Do you promote kids that are being handled by any other recruiting services or just darkhorse?
What other schools have you helped channel kids to?

You didn't answer my question about knowing more than the coaches. 

Your passion for recruiting is great. But perhaps you shouldn't be using a company name as your screen/board name. Especially one you have admitted you have some type of association with.

I WISH I was part of the And1 Corporation. I'd certainly have a lot more money than I do. But your asking if I am affiliated did elicit a good laugh. 

Lastly, its time for a quiz. If a player makes a basket and is fouled in the process, what is it called? 

I already answered these same questions in the NAAC post, and I don't feel that they were interesting enough to answer a second time. Also, the company is not named Dark Horse Basketball - per the link you shared, it's clearly Dark Horse Sports Recruiting. So, saying that handle "darkhorsebball" is directly tied to the company's name is a stretch. Liked the name, love the sport. If you want to argue with me about my opinions, that's great and I welcome debate. But hopefully you'll stop questioning my merits and intentions so that I can get back to doing what I love - talking about basketball.

Quote from: AndOne on November 02, 2017, 04:17:28 PM

Quote from: darkhorsebball on November 02, 2017, 04:02:14 PM

Quote from: AndOne on November 02, 2017, 03:54:32 PM
Scholarships from who? Last year, and even moreso the year before that, Benedictine could have beaten a lot of schools a player of Bogus' ability could have gotten a scholarship from.

And, if you're not a business entity, whats this:

https://www.darkhorserecruits.com/dark-horse-recruiting-success-stories/

And as far as you knowing the Chicago recruiting scene as well as anybody, if you aren't part of a recruiting service, how do you have the time to acquire all this knowledge?
Do you know as much as the college coaches whose lifeblood is recruiting and who go to multiple games all season long, season after season?

Agreed that Benedictine has been loaded the last few years, can also tell you that the coaches themselves described Bogus as a "steal". If you want to fight about an 18 year old kid, though, you're barking up the wrong tree.

That appears to be a website for Dark Horse Recruits, who, as I mentioned in the other post where you attacked me, I have helped navigate through the Chicagoland recruiting scene as they've established themselves. Are you a retro shoe brand that now runs tournaments? If not, what is this?

https://and1.com/live/

Any more questions, or is it blatantly clear to you how absurd you are being at this point?

It seems that as far as being absurd, your asking me if I am the And1 Corporation sets the standard! 

Also you "have helped them (darkhorsebball recruiting) navigate through the Chicagoland recruiting scene as they've established themselves," but you're not associated with them?  Tell that one to the jury! Geez. 

So we're clear, you just made my point! And if introducing a 22 year old kid who wants to help high school athletes find homes at the college level to high school and college coaches is a crime, consider me guilty! Can we get back to talking about basketball now?

Quote from: AndOne on November 02, 2017, 04:06:06 PM
First of all, I did NOT say I don't know the IIAC. I said I don't know it as well as the CCIW. I know all about Coach Martin, a former great player at Elmhurst of the CCIW. Watched him for four years. And, while not as much as you, I also know something about a lot of Chicagoland HS basketball players.

And, if you're not a business entity, whats this:

https://www.darkhorserecruits.com/dark-horse-recruiting-success-stories/

Are you just using their name?

Lastly, as far as your vast knowledge of the Chicagoland HS recruiting scene, if you aren't associated with a recruiting  service, how do you have time to acquire all this knowledge?
Do you know as much as all the college whose lifeblood is recruiting, and who go to multiple HS games all season long, season after season?

Am I living in Groundhog's Day? Or are you just using the same weak arguments in multiple forums hoping that somebody somewhere will jump in and defend you? As I mentioned above, I helped Brandon and his team navigate the Chicagoland recruiting scene. I liked the name Dark Horse, figured I would be safe to use it on an anonymous chat forum. Didn't realize the kind of heat I would catch for a name.

What about you? Are you affiliated with And1 sneakers? Or are you just stealing their name?

To answer your question about my recruiting knowledge, I enjoy following recruiting. I know many Chicagoland HS coaches, dozens of D3 college coaches, and I coach multiple teams on the AAU circuit. Is my passion for the process alright with you? And if so, can we get back to talking more about the sport I love?

Quote from: AndOne on November 02, 2017, 03:54:32 PM
Scholarships from who? Last year, and even moreso the year before that, Benedictine could have beaten a lot of schools a player of Bogus' ability could have gotten a scholarship from.

And, if you're not a business entity, whats this:

https://www.darkhorserecruits.com/dark-horse-recruiting-success-stories/

And as far as you knowing the Chicago recruiting scene as well as anybody, if you aren't part of a recruiting service, how do you have the time to acquire all this knowledge?
Do you know as much as the college coaches whose lifeblood is recruiting and who go to multiple games all season long, season after season?

Agreed that Benedictine has been loaded the last few years, can also tell you that the coaches themselves described Bogus as a "steal". If you want to fight about an 18 year old kid, though, you're barking up the wrong tree.

That appears to be a website for Dark Horse Recruits, who, as I mentioned in the other post where you attacked me, I have helped navigate through the Chicagoland recruiting scene as they've established themselves. Are you a retro shoe brand that now runs tournaments? If not, what is this?

https://and1.com/live/

Any more questions, or is it blatantly clear to you how absurd you are being at this point?

Quote from: AndOne on November 02, 2017, 03:17:32 PM

Quote from: darkhorsebball on November 02, 2017, 12:47:55 PM

Quote from: AndOne on October 29, 2017, 02:04:48 PM
Brayden Olson, BU's best player, will be immediately doubled about 90% of the time he touches the ball. The next best players will likely be 6'7" (really?) F Kenny Bogus, and 6'6" (really?) F Eric Grygo. Both are only Sophs, and neither can be described as explosive.

Bogus is a legit 6'7 point-forward, was a steal for Benedictine. Potential conference MVP candidate over the next 3 years. Explosive may not be the right word for him, but smooth certainly is. He'll excite people this year.

* First of all, darkhorsebball, in the interest of full disclosure, you should point out that you are NOT an individual poster, but rather a recruiting service that goes out and competes with other such services for HS kids in order to represent them in their recruitment efforts. No doubt, Mr. Bogus is one of your former clients who you have a vested interest in promoting.

Now, that is not to say Kenny is a bad player, quite the contrary. In fact smooth may be a good description. He could very well be BU's #2 player this year. However, BU will need a lot more than smooth to come anywhere near the level of achievement they have attained the last couple of years. If they finish near the top of the conference standings it will be more a reflection that the conference as a whole is not very strong rather than BU being a powerhouse. Also, "steal" seems a bit over the top for a kid who shot 39% overall last year, 33% from three, only 50% from the line, and who averaged just 3.9 PPG. I hope BU didn't get arrested for that "steal." 
At this point, lets just say Kenny is a decent player with the potential to get better to the point of being a top player on his team.

Also, let's not be too quick to discount a freshman when he played behind two all-conference senior guards.......

Quote from: AndOne on November 02, 2017, 02:31:59 PM

Quote from: AndOne on April 09, 2017, 08:30:01 PM
LORAS RECRUIT

Jordan Kedrowski, who was 2nd in scoring for Carthage of the CCIW In 2015-16, will play at Loras in 2017-2018.

Yep, the Kedrowski transfer is old news. 

Quote from: darkhorsebball on November 02, 2017, 12:45:35 PM

Quote from: AndOne on September 21, 2017, 02:57:38 PM
If you Iowa boys don't mind a little info from an IL guy.........

Loras is getting a great 6'6" 3 point shooter - Rowan McGowan
Dubuque is getting two very solid all around 6'5" players - Pete Ragen & Cole Navigato.

I saw all 3 play several times. McGowan is just a plain ice water in his veins shooter. The bigger the need for a three pointer the more likely he is to make it.

Ragen can play, probably in this order, the 3, 2, or 1. Not a huge scorer or rebounder, but above average in both, and maybe the best ballhandler over 6'3" I saw last year.
Navigato is both a scorer and rebounder. He will get lots of points or lots of rebounds almost every game. About every 3-4 games he will get lots of both. And he plays defense too.

Can also shed some light on Loras' roster as a guy who follows their recruiting closely. Rowan McGowen is a stud, shoots the piss out of the ball from the perimeter and has improved his body vastly over the last several months. Will certainly be an impact guy as a freshman. Cole Navigato (whose brother, Nate, is a starter at Toledo) transferred from Dubuque to Loras during the first week of the school year. He's extremely long and athletic and, as you indicated above, can impact the game on both ends of the floor. The Duhawks also locked down Seth Mueller, who was coveted by nearly every major program in the midwest. Add a big-bodied Cam Harris out of Bolingbrook HS and a long, tough glue guy like Jake Ruggles (younger brother of Josh Ruggles, Loras junior), and the freshmen class at Loras looks to be something special.

Loras also picked up Jordon Kedrowski via transfer. Kedrowski was Carthage's leading scorer/leader in assists as a freshman, transferred to Ball State as a PWO before landing at Loras. Believe he's ineligible for first semester via transfer rules but will be an impact guy at the point spot immediately following his return. Also, I'd be remiss not to mention Josh Ruggles, who returns to the Duhawks after missing nearly all of last season with injuries/heart issues. The kid is finally healthy and up 15 pounds of muscle, so he's essentially like a new addition to the team for this season. Word out of a closed scrimmage is that he looked very good at North Park last night. NWU may be the most experienced team in the IIAC, but hard to argue that Loras isn't the most talented on paper...

"Piss"    Shame, shame. We don't talk like that here on D3Hoops, darkhorsebball.     

And full disclosure------

It should be pointed out that darkhorsebball is a basketball recruiting service, not an individual poster, and has a particular interest in enhancing athletes that have signed with them to secure scholarships (D1, D2, NAIA), or for other promotional services (D3). They have apparently funneled several players to Loras.
And, the head of the firm is Brandon Ruggles who just happens to be the brother of Josh and Jake who are mentioned above. 

This is not to say they don't provide a service-as do their competitors. I just think its important that posters/readers of the board be familiar with all aspects of the post including knowing a business, rather than an individual, is the one doing the posting. 

On another front, you have to be both happy for, and impressed with, a player like Josh Ruggles who has battled back from injury and serious illness to build himself back up to a physical level where he is again able to compete on the D3 level. As we know, you play for the love of the game at D3. Bonus points to Josh for overcoming big obstacles in order to be able to do so. 

A wildly unfair post, I have helped Dark Horse navigate the Chicago recruiting scene, but if you can figure out how a business could benefit from anonymously posting on an online chat forum, please let me know and I'll communicate your strategies directly to Mr. Ruggles.

I'm an individual who knows the Chicagoland recruiting scene as well as anyone, and Loras is one of many schools who has recruited the region well since Chris Martin took over. If you do not appreciate my insights (only one player listed above worked with Dark Horse, by the way), then that is your loss. And, given that you already admitted that you do not know the IIAC, maybe you could learn something given that it's a hotbed for Chicago talent.

Quote from: AndOne on November 02, 2017, 03:17:32 PM

Quote from: darkhorsebball on November 02, 2017, 12:47:55 PM

Quote from: AndOne on October 29, 2017, 02:04:48 PM
Brayden Olson, BU's best player, will be immediately doubled about 90% of the time he touches the ball. The next best players will likely be 6'7" (really?) F Kenny Bogus, and 6'6" (really?) F Eric Grygo. Both are only Sophs, and neither can be described as explosive.

Bogus is a legit 6'7 point-forward, was a steal for Benedictine. Potential conference MVP candidate over the next 3 years. Explosive may not be the right word for him, but smooth certainly is. He'll excite people this year.

* First of all, darkhorsebball, in the interest of full disclosure, you should point out that you are NOT an individual poster, but rather a recruiting service that goes out and competes with other such services for HS kids in order to represent them in their recruitment efforts. No doubt, Mr. Bogus is one of your former clients who you have a vested interest in promoting.

Now, that is not to say Kenny is a bad player, quite the contrary. In fact smooth may be a good description. He could very well be BU's #2 player this year. However, BU will need a lot more than smooth to come anywhere near the level of achievement they have attained the last couple of years. If they finish near the top of the conference standings it will be more a reflection that the conference as a whole is not very strong rather than BU being a powerhouse. Also, "steal" seems a bit over the top for a kid who shot 39% overall last year, 33% from three, only 50% from the line, and who averaged just 3.9 PPG. I hope BU didn't get arrested for that "steal." 
At this point, lets just say Kenny is a decent player with the potential to get better to the point of being a top player on his team.

My man, you are killing me. I am not a business account as you continue to insist, really not sure how a business account could benefit from posting on a random forum. I'm an individual who coached in Kenny Bogus' AAU program and got to know him there. He had multiple scholarship offers and turned them down in favor of paying to go to Benedictine, thus making him a steal by definition. I suggest you take a deep breath and let someone who knows the Chicagoland recruiting scene as well as anybody share his PERSONAL insights.

Quote from: AndOne on October 29, 2017, 02:04:48 PM
Brayden Olson, BU's best player, will be immediately doubled about 90% of the time he touches the ball. The next best players will likely be 6'7" (really?) F Kenny Bogus, and 6'6" (really?) F Eric Grygo. Both are only Sophs, and neither can be described as explosive.

Bogus is a legit 6'7 point-forward, was a steal for Benedictine. Potential conference MVP candidate over the next 3 years. Explosive may not be the right word for him, but smooth certainly is. He'll excite people this year.

Quote from: AndOne on September 21, 2017, 02:57:38 PM
If you Iowa boys don't mind a little info from an IL guy.........

Loras is getting a great 6'6" 3 point shooter - Rowan McGowan
Dubuque is getting two very solid all around 6'5" players - Pete Ragen & Cole Navigato.

I saw all 3 play several times. McGowan is just a plain ice water in his veins shooter. The bigger the need for a three pointer the more likely he is to make it.

Ragen can play, probably in this order, the 3, 2, or 1. Not a huge scorer or rebounder, but above average in both, and maybe the best ballhandler over 6'3" I saw last year.
Navigato is both a scorer and rebounder. He will get lots of points or lots of rebounds almost every game. About every 3-4 games he will get lots of both. And he plays defense too.

Can also shed some light on Loras' roster as a guy who follows their recruiting closely. Rowan McGowen is a stud, shoots the piss out of the ball from the perimeter and has improved his body vastly over the last several months. Will certainly be an impact guy as a freshman. Cole Navigato (whose brother, Nate, is a starter at Toledo) transferred from Dubuque to Loras during the first week of the school year. He's extremely long and athletic and, as you indicated above, can impact the game on both ends of the floor. The Duhawks also locked down Seth Mueller, who was coveted by nearly every major program in the midwest. Add a big-bodied Cam Harris out of Bolingbrook HS and a long, tough glue guy like Jake Ruggles (younger brother of Josh Ruggles, Loras junior), and the freshmen class at Loras looks to be something special.

Loras also picked up Jordon Kedrowski via transfer. Kedrowski was Carthage's leading scorer/leader in assists as a freshman, transferred to Ball State as a PWO before landing at Loras. Believe he's ineligible for first semester via transfer rules but will be an impact guy at the point spot immediately following his return. Also, I'd be remiss not to mention Josh Ruggles, who returns to the Duhawks after missing nearly all of last season with injuries/heart issues. The kid is finally healthy and up 15 pounds of muscle, so he's essentially like a new addition to the team for this season. Word out of a closed scrimmage is that he looked very good at North Park last night. NWU may be the most experienced team in the IIAC, but hard to argue that Loras isn't the most talented on paper...