Awesome feedback, thanks. I just like to get the perspective of others on things like this. I agree with almost all of what you two said, though I agree with Dave that the recent hires at Muhlenberg, Hopkins, and probably even Haverford are not likely 'long haul' guys if they have their choice in the matter. 2 of them come from D1 schools, and the third from one of the few D3 conferences/leagues that we would consider better than the Cent, and I think all of them will be looking to trade up in a handful of years if they succeed and can find a good opportunity somewhere.. Kosmalski obviously fits in this category as well, he's just not a recent hire.
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Region 5 men's basketball / Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
May 11, 2018, 01:35:43 AM
2 things here, as I definitely respect your points. First, you may have more inside info on this, but look at the timeline on the Gettysburg hire, Dunne named on April 10, Christian named at Siena on May 2. I wouldn't doubt for a second that Engelstad would pull out of Gettysburg if he knew the Mount would open, but thats a pretty long gap of time as far as the coaching carousel goes. He would've had to pull out of the Burg roughly April 6/7 ish, that's close to a month before the Mount was even open. I'm not calling bs on your claim, just seems hard to fathom.
Second, and this goes for either you or sunny.. In total seriousness, explain to me what you guys mean when you say he may not have been the right fit. The Mount is geographically close to virtually the entire Cent, so that can't be it. This isn't Billy Gillespie being tasked with facing the pressure of Big Blue Nation in Kentucky, or Eric Mangini unprepared to deal with the New York media as coach of the Jets. We're hiring a D3 coach here, not the US men's national team successor to Coach K. I was an assistant at this level, I respect what D3 coaches do, but let's not oversell what we/they do. Are you saying he isn't the right hire for a high academic institution? The 'right fit' just seems like a go-to comeback when somebody knows/thinks a mistake might have been made. I don't know Engelstad personally, but i respect his resume and i know for a fact he interviews well. MSM must agree, I know he was liked there, but they're not going to just give him the job straight from D3 unless he blows them away in an interview..
Ok, sorry for rambling, good debate is healthy lol
Second, and this goes for either you or sunny.. In total seriousness, explain to me what you guys mean when you say he may not have been the right fit. The Mount is geographically close to virtually the entire Cent, so that can't be it. This isn't Billy Gillespie being tasked with facing the pressure of Big Blue Nation in Kentucky, or Eric Mangini unprepared to deal with the New York media as coach of the Jets. We're hiring a D3 coach here, not the US men's national team successor to Coach K. I was an assistant at this level, I respect what D3 coaches do, but let's not oversell what we/they do. Are you saying he isn't the right hire for a high academic institution? The 'right fit' just seems like a go-to comeback when somebody knows/thinks a mistake might have been made. I don't know Engelstad personally, but i respect his resume and i know for a fact he interviews well. MSM must agree, I know he was liked there, but they're not going to just give him the job straight from D3 unless he blows them away in an interview..
Ok, sorry for rambling, good debate is healthy lol
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Region 5 men's basketball / Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
May 10, 2018, 08:04:37 AM
Interesting to note, that Dan Engelstad, who was bypassed by at least two Cent schools, and likely 3 or 4, in the last 2 offseasons, was just hired at D1 Mount St Mary's. Tell me politics aren't at play in most of these small school decisions and i'll tell you to guess again.
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Region 5 men's basketball / Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
April 26, 2018, 01:32:45 AM
To be fair to Dave, he is not really comparing Dunne and Seretti, he's simply pointing out that wvcfan said the same thing about Seretti that he is saying now about Dunne. And as the kids would say these days, that message hasn't aged well, as we've seen Seretti have a dominant run. I will say one other thing, though I'm new to posting, I've lurked for long enough to know this - Dave and Pat aren't going to criticize any coaches on here. They do such a great job with the D3 site, and having interactions with many of the coaches gets you to know them personally. Therefore they tend to defend the coaches when something negative gets posted, which i totally understand, just pointing it out.
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Region 5 men's basketball / Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
April 13, 2018, 12:47:18 AM
Totally agree with CCHoopster.. I'd be interested to know who the other finalists were here. Vassar may not have been a power Pat, but if one is going to merit a step up, and I think we would all agree that the Cent is a notch or two above the Liberty League, then said coach should probably have a slightly better resume then what this choice brings to the table. He had a great year with the former coaches players, and then fell off when tasked with coaching his own recruits, not a good recipe for what the Cent looks like moving forward. Not wishing him failure, but if they wanted to go young, they may as well have just gone with Petrie's assistant the last few years, he at least knows the landscape. Might turn out well for them, only time will tell, but it's definitely a curious selection.
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Region 5 men's basketball / Re: MBB: Centennial Conference
February 08, 2018, 01:59:08 PM
Long time reader, wanted to make a comment on last week's discussion about the league being down or not. I believe it is down, but it's not strictly a Cent problem, it's a widespread issue across most of, if not all of D3. The transfer epidemic that sees 35% of D1 players change schools, combined with too many other players leaving school early for myriad reasons, causes nearly 50% of D1 roster turnover every season. This trickles down to the D3 level, robbing it of the talent and depth it used to have. I can't say for certainty this is the case in the Midwest, where D3 seems to be especially strong, but on the east coast, it sure as heck seems to be accurate. Anyone 6'7 or bigger that has a pulse gets a scholarship these days, be it D1 or D2, so bigs are not "settling" for D3 anymore. Where are the impact freshmen? I count Delaney at Hopkins, anybody have another? Morreale was having a productive year, but has missed half of it with injury. F&M came in with a heralded class, haven't seen consistent production from any of them. Dickinson, Ursinus, nothing to be seen there either. The Soph class has a few more studs, but not nearly as many as the JR and SR classes do. Also, very little depth in the conference, at virtually any school, though I guess that is not totally uncommon. I will say the young coaching changes at Muhlenberg, Haverford and Hopkins have breathed life into those schools, and the same thing is likely to happen at Gettysburg in a few months. The league is competitive and there are good teams and players, but as a whole I just see it being down, and unfortunately I see it trending that way for the near future. Looking forward to feedback from the veterans here, am I nuts? Should be a fun few weeks coming up.
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