Shawn Rapal, DeAnza Force (CA), Amherst
Declan Sung, Boston Bolts (MA), Amherst
Matt McCabe, Westmont Premier, Perkiomen Valley (PA), Arcadia
Myles Guerrier, Worcester Academy (MA), Bates
Jacob Iwowo, Berkshire (MA), Bates
Alexander Kovacs, Boston Bolts, Bates
Justin Phillips, Avon Old Farms (CT), Bates
Michael Webber, Rivers School (MA), Bowdoin
Forrest Shimazu, Bolts (MA), Brandeis
Jack Tapplett, Westmont Premier, Pennridge (PA), Cabrini
Chris Roberts, Penn Fusion, West Chester Henderson (PA), Carnegie Mellon
Rafael Perez, McLean Youth Soccer (VA), Case Western
Jack McEvoy, Washington United, Clearview Regional (NJ), Catholic 
Nate Perrins, Lower Merion SC, Strath Haven (PA), Catholic
Ezra Sanford, Kentucky Fire Juniors (KY), Centre College
Kameron Bloye, Michigan Wolves (MI), Chicago
Griffin Wada, Lower Merion SC, Haverford School (PA), Chicago
Grant Alexander, North Carolina FC Youth/Enloe, Christopher Newport *
Cameron Emde-Gerdine, Concord Carlisle (MA), Clarkson
Aidan O'Brien, Loomis Chaffee (CT), Colby
Samuel Wilson, Penn Fusion, Episcopal (PA), Colby
Sean Keeney, Real Colorado Soccer (CO), Colorado College
Will Taylor, Madison 56ers (WI), Colorado College
Sam Maidenberg, Columbia (NJ), Conn College
Jack Marvel, Tabor/Liverpool FC MA, Conn College
Alex Robles, Loudoun Soccer (VA), Conn College
Zach Case, Charlotte Latin (NC), Denison
Ethan Miracle, St. Louis Scott Gallagher (IL), Denison
Henry Schwartz, Westfield (NJ), Denison
Nigel Woodroffe, Match Fit Academy FC (NJ), Dickinson
Ian Nelson, Cedarburg (WI), Dominican
Kaleb Patterson, Javanon (KY), Dominican
Lucas Portadin, Deptford Premier, Vineland (NJ), Drew
Derek Buhrman, South Central PA Soccer Academy, Eastern
Aidan Link, Lehigh Valley United, Lansdale Catholic (PA), Eastern
Mitchell Race, Continental FC, Souderton (PA), Eastern
Moustapha Camara, Hebron (ME), Elmira
Josh Gans, Bolts (MA), Emory
Wyatt Fair, Charlotte Soccer Academy (NC), Emory & Henry
Will Poreda, Liverpool (MA), Endicott
Christian Clark, Millburn NJ, Franklin & Marshall
Henry Cooke, Ukrainian Nationals, Radnor (PA), Franklin & Marshall
Ingram Dillingham, Delaware Rush, Friends Central (PA), Franklin & Marshall
Will Micheletti, Lower Merion SC, Haverford School (PA), Franklin & Marshall
Michael Carracino, Cranford NJ, Gettysburg
Cameron Morse, Unity, Haverford (PA), Gettysburg
Brandon Raudenbush, Match Fit Academy, Rancocas Valley (NJ), Gettysburg
Matthew Tennant, Yardley Makefield, Pennsbury (PA), Gettysburg
Caleb Bush, Lehigh Valley United (PA), Goucher
Joe Simon, Millburn (NJ), Goucher
Sam Belitz, Independence (OH), Grove City College
Justin D'Alessandro, Middlesex (MA), Hamilton
Sam Meyerowitz, Millburn (NJ), Hamilton
Sam Webber, United Philly, Germantown Friends (PA), Hamilton
Nick Pippis, Penn Fusion, Haverford School (PA), Haverford
Ben Utz, Atlanta Fire United SA (GA), Haverford
Robbie Caron, Bridgton (ME), Hobart
Amad Miller, Lawrence Academy (MA), Hobart
Alex Wei, DeAnza Force (CA), Johns Hopkins
Chayne Bruneau, Loomis Chaffee (CT), Kenyon
Keven Cosgel, Loomis Chaffee (CT), Kenyon
David McRory, Berkshire (MA), Kenyon
Minka Soumah, Northfield Mount Hermon (MA), Kenyon
Carter Averette, Midlothian (VA), Lynchburg
Max Brown, Future Player Academy, Cheltenham (PA), Mary Washington
Tanner Gigliotti, FC Stars (MA), MCLA
Jake Lent-Koop, Cleveland (NM), Messiah
Behaylu Barry, Phillips Exeter (NH), Middlebury
Ian Smith, Salisbury School (CT), Middlebury
Jason Ivey, Penn Fusion, Conestoga (PA), Muhlenberg
Brandin Osborne, Worcester Academy (MA), Muhlenberg
Josh Stanley, Rappahannock (VA), Penn College of Tech
Johnny Guimaraes, Westmont Premier, Spring-Ford (PA), Penn State Berks
Graeme Logan, Milton Academy (MA), Pomona-Pitzer
Bogue Cummings, Midlothian (VA), Randolph-Macon
Max Radosavljevic, HMMS Eagle FC (PA), Randolph-Macon
Nic DiMauro, Bartlett (TN), Rhodes College
Aidan Sullivan, North Carolina FC Youth/Enloe (NC), Rhodes College *
Dylan Berk, North Carolina FC Youth/Heritage, Roanoke College
Jaeden Joyce, Future Player Academy, Abington (PA), Rochester
Cameron Polley, FC Wisconsin, Rockford
Nick Feldman, Cherry Hill FC, Cherry Hill East (NJ), Rosemont
Alex Ferrara, Scotch Plains-Fanwood NJ, Rowan
Michael Ferrara, Scotch Plains-Fanwood NJ, Rowan
Corey Haines, Washington United, Cherokee (NJ), Rowan
Jake Logar, Washington United, Washington Township (NJ), Rowan
Devon Piro, Washington United, Hammonton (NJ), Rowan
Jayson Vandermark, Match Fit Academy, Delran (NJ), Rowan
Chad Yates, Washington United, Washington Township (NJ), Rowan
Nathan Costantino, Westminster (CT), Salve Regina
Logan Cattie, Continental FC, Malvern Prep (PA), Scranton
Matthew Lamond, Penn Fusion, Malvern Prep (PA), Scranton
Michael McDougald, GPS (MA), St. Lawrence
Marty Biggens, Bethesda SC (MD), St. Mary's MD
Braden Melveney, Empire United SA (NY) SUNY Cortland
Connor Owenburg, SUSA FC Academy (NY), SUNY Cortland
Riley Williams, Upstate United SC (NY), SUNY Cortland
Ian Zingaro, Syracuse Development Academy (NY), SUNY Oneonta
Jonah Johnson, Phillips Exeter (NH), Swarthmore
Scott Marshall, Lower Merion SC, Haverford School (PA), Trinity
James Michielli, Worcester Academy (MA), Trinity
Rolando Rabines, Phillips Andover (MA), Tufts
Woovin Shin, DeAnza Force (CA), Tufts
Jacob Totz, Houston Dynamo Youth Soccer (TX), Tufts
Bryce Visnick, NEFC (MA), Tufts
Eric Wnorowski, Christian Brothers (NJ), Vassar
Austin Hughes, Providence (IN), Wabash
Cole Gifford, Washington United, Delran (NJ), Washington College
Tyler Bernard, Milburn NJ, Washington & Lee
Garrett Erickson, TUS Glanmunchweiler, Germany, Washington & Lee
Rye McMillen, Braddock Road YC (VA), Washington & Lee
Tyler Smith, McLean Youth Soccer (VA), Washington & Lee
Witt Cadwalader, FC Stars (MA), Washington University
Cormac Farrell, Match Fit Academy FC (NJ), Washington University
Kellen Fitzgerald, Continental FC, Malvern Prep (PA), Wesleyan
Ian Frankel, Met Oval (NY), Wesleyan
Tyler Swanbeck, Seacoast United (ME), Wesleyan
Ben Tardiff, Kimball Union (NH), Wesleyan
Justin Figueiredo, Oakwood (CT), Western Connecticut
Gabriel Fellows, Cushing (MA), Wheaton MA
Avery Santoro, Liverpool (MA), Wheaton MA
Colin Canniff, Liverpool (MA), WPI
Max Chammorro, Westmont Premier, Perkiomen Valley (PA), York

I stated this poorly. Here's a better shot at it.

Where would the top D3 teams like Messiah/Chicago/Tufts be ranked within the D1 rankings?

Where would a top-25 D3 team like Luther/Ithica/Claremont McKenna be ranked within the D1 rankings?

Finally,

Where would a bottom D1 team like VMI/Wofford/UNC-Asheville be ranked within the D3 rankings?

Fun question - DON'T take this too seriously.

Using these polls as a "guide"
D1 - https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/soccer-men/d1/ncaa-mens-soccer-rpi
D3 - http://unitedsoccercoaches.org/web/Rankings/College_Rankings/NCAA_DIII_MEN/web/rankings/ncaa/diii_men.aspx

Where in the D1 rankings would you place a Messiah/Chicago/Tufts (a top team)?
Where is the D1 rankings would you place a Luther/Ithica/Claremont McKenna (a 25th ranked team)?

Where in the D3 rankings would you place VMI/Wofford/UNC-Asheville (bottom 10 team)?

Quote from: TyWebb on August 29, 2018, 02:30:30 PM

Quote from: deutschfan on August 29, 2018, 11:51:16 AM
Last year it appeared that physical size mattered, this year roster size.

I second your comment on roster sizes. I was perusing some rosters of teams where I know some of the incoming players. I was surprised to see the large size of their freshmen class: Keene St - 24, Babson -15, F&M - 14, Dickinson - 12, Gordon - 12 just to name a few. I'd be curious to hear from those who have followed D3 soccer more than me if roster sizes are expanding in general or this is just particular teams restocking from attrition?

As a reference, F&M had 12 freshman on roster last year. Four never played and did not return. They currently list only six sophomores on current roster. 50% attrition.

Quote from: mom1234 on July 25, 2018, 01:32:32 AM

Quote from: PaulNewman on July 24, 2018, 07:45:47 PM

Quote from: EB2319 on July 24, 2018, 06:11:49 PM
Where's the eating popcorn emoticon when you need it?

I can't decide whether to go with some traditional Orville R, moderate-liberal Smartfood Cheddar, or some more Wesleyan-esque Trader Joe's Herbs and Spices.

This is great stuff and hopefully will spiral into a regular blog as the saga unfolds, with the side benefit of some of us (including me) reminding everyone another time or two about the cool, elite places WE and our kids went to college.  I'm in.  The college search was a great, exhilarating time, when, before actual realities and decisions roll in, everything and every place is possible.  Great stuff for those of us who loved making and re-making lists and would love to go through the whole thing again.

So many nuances.  Too Jewish.  Midfield plays the way we like but doesn't need us.  Too rural.  City is great except if its Hartford.  Classes too big but at least mimics Europe.  Better than any strong Academy players that have played at F&M but not even playing Academy and might not even make a good Academy squad.  Could get bored.  Needs the ball but might not get off the bench.  Well, at least will be able to pull the strings for the scout team and use that intuitive decision-making in practices.  One national title coach is a jerk (proven fact apparently) who plays crap soccer.  Colby might have a flake.  The Wesleyan coach is cool but he keeps it real about realistic academic chances, and who wants all that deconstructive chalking in Middletown anyway?  So many schools that aren't good enough even though there's no signal about any suggesting admission.  Live in the Midwest but can only consider what works with Logan Airport.  Rochester has an airport.  In fact, all the UAA schools do.  No consideration of the excellent schools that sound like actual fits....Gettysburg, Dickinson, Denison, DePauw, Centre, Rhodes.

Several people have suggested what to do.  Pursue what you think you like broadly.  Pick some places to visit that want you to visit, and be sure to include at least a couple where you're very confident that admission is not an issue.  Go on said visits, and then decide on small vs big, rural vs city, campus cultures, team cultures, coaches, playing styles, likely playing time at places where you think playing style fits, etc, etc.

That's quite the stand-up routine... whatever the popcorn flavor, I'm throwing it at the screen watching this reel of "facts" which are quite "nuanced" themselves! A few corrections are in order before this commentary is permanently stamped on the collective mind of this board regarding our poor non-superstud:
- "Better than any strong academy players that have ever played at F and M." You mean all one of them? [burn emoji] What I actually said: Better than the incoming freshman. Small nuance...
- "Not even playing academy and might not even make a good squad."  Truth: Played middling academy before, then made squad this year again but turned it down. (You can pick on that decision all you want, but consider driving 25 miles in rush hour straight through a huge city four or five night a week and get home at 11pm... If you survive to apply to college, see if any nescac school thinks you are "well-rounded.")
- "Lives in midwest...."  Fact: Never said that. Guess another region...
"..But can only consider what works with Logan Airport." That's right. Or Philadelphia. Unless you are offering to give him your frequent flyer miles on American Eagle, he's going Southwest, heck, maybe even Spirit.
- "Could get bored." Fine. Son (and you all) have put to rest that silly Mom Concern. As an alum of a nescac school, I have duly warned him, however, that if he is bored, it won't be because of the soccer, it will be due to the lack thereof during a long, miserable winter stuck on a hill outside of New Hartford or Pittsfield or some other exciting place...
- "So many schools aren't good enough..."  Huh? I assure you, they are all more than good enough."... but no signal about any suggesting admission." Sure they are, but I'm not going to tell you which...
- "No consideration of the excellent schools that sound like actual fits....Gettysburg, Dickinson..." These two were and are, but I hadn't brought them into the discussion.

On that note, it's probably time for Mom to spare this board any more of the recruiting "saga." We'll suffer through the madness on the sidelines.

For the record I get that my kid is not superstud. Just don't be mean to poor Mom on some future date if he ends up sitting on a bench!

Let me guess:

You're from Texas, not the Midwest.
You're considering Gettysburg, F&M, Hamilton (alum), and other NESCAC schools
Did the "D3 East Coast Summer ID Camp Tour - 2018"
You prefer bigger city - would be good fit in Boston area D3 or Rhodes or Johns Hopkins for their location - rules out some of NESCAC and Gettysbury and F&M since not near airports or metro areas.

Your son (R) is very talented - would fit in at any of these schools but wouldn't stand out on day 1. Sone schools are a bit of a stretch academically but he can handle the workload.
Best of luck - let everyone know where he ends up.