Quote from: Flying Weasel on August 13, 2019, 02:35:32 PM

Quote from: daddyEzK on August 13, 2019, 02:12:21 PM
https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/soccer-men/d3/regional-rankings

New???  Might want to check the date on that!

OOPS!   Sorry about that. 

https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/soccer-men/d3/regional-rankings

Quote from: DucksFan02 on December 11, 2018, 09:05:31 PM

Quote from: Hopkins92 on December 10, 2018, 12:43:20 PM
Kind of nitpicky, but I don't think people put F&M over Haverford very much here. Obviously, this is just a gut feeling.

I never count out the Fords, from personal experience. ;-)

Stevens downed the Fords 3-1 this year, granted in an earlier game, with Haverford's goal coming on the last play of the game...presumably Stevens dumped their bench at this point? Additionally the Ducks lost 1-0 to F&M... In any case, appears that F&M more consistent in regular season out of conference + NCAA tourney whereas Haverford does better in CC tourney and regular season...correct me if wrong, on any of that, not a huge follower of the CC.

Thought Stevens played great that game and, based on that performance, I had high expectations for the Ducks for the season.   Both F&M and Haverford have traditionally played tough out of conference schedules, including teams like Stevens.  I believe it has helped both teams in the conference as the season progresses.

Quote from: DucksFan02 on December 07, 2018, 03:13:35 PM
Hi all, been a casual observer of the page and D3 soccer in general for the past few years, with this season over, deciding to actively post a little bit more (or as actively as I can with a busy work schedule  )...as you can hopefully tell by the name, I mainly support Stevens Tech, as I am from the area, and have made it to a few games in recent years (view from their field is incredible, highly recommend a trip). After losing to national champs twice in a row, and losing by 1 goal and giving both Tufts of 2018 and Messiah of 2017 a run for their money, the Ducks have got to be hungry to get back at it next year.Especially after watching Tufts roll through Amherst and Montclair in the rounds of 3 and 4, Ducks (who lasted 80 minutes at 0-0) will feel that playing Tufts on a bye was an unfair draw. Carrying out that theme of some teams poised to break out next year, anyone have any teams in mind? Other than Stevens, schools like Eastern, NYU, CT College, F&M, all seem candidates to try to break the status quo and reach the Final 4....let me know your guys thoughts, happy to be joining the page as a user.

Have enjoyed going to Hoboken a few times to see Haverford play the Ducks.  Haven't enjoyed the results, but like your stadium and appreciate how well your team plays. 

Haverford has won the centennial three times in the past four years, but only gets mentioned as afterthought on these boards after F&M and Hopkins.    Count them out at your own peril 

Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on December 03, 2018, 01:31:41 PM

Quote from: daddyEzK on December 03, 2018, 12:41:15 PM

Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on December 02, 2018, 11:03:19 PM
On a separate note out of curiousity as I try and report some things back to people ... did anyone have any issues with the streaming of the games? I'm not necessarily looking for "it wouldn't start" as that could be anything from your device to the connection to the ...

I'm looking for "commercial breaks weren't really commercials" (just a screen that said commercial break) to the stream stopped and we had to go out and come back in to get the game again. That kind of stuff.

I do NOT want to necessarily overflow this page with complaints and such. I am, again, trying to put together some perspectives before I report some that I've already gathered from others to people I think need to know (and will listen to me). Feel free to DM me instead of crowding this thread or others.

Thanks ... and I at least hope the broadcasts were entertaining. The games certainly were - even if the first one had us sitting outside under a tent.

I really enjoyed them and thought you were terrific onair. 

I had some problems staying connected during the Rochester game, but don't know wwhere the problem was.

The commercial break was annoying.  I figure the folks watching are interested in D3 soccer generally and might have enjoyed some programing like a season retrospective or an interview with a NCAA D3 representative talking about the future.  Even a preview of the woman's game might been fun.

Well we do need to take those breaks ... or we would kill ourselves with exhaustion. LOL

I am curious if anyone actually saw commercials run during those breaks. I'm getting word that those breaks may not have been filled with ... commercials. That's a problem.

I would love to have more content at halftime. I actually suggested to the VP of DIII who was in attendance on Friday about coming up, but he didn't make it. We could try and get someone from the committee(s) in the future. Preview could be interesting, but I'm also conscious that not everyone watching Game A is planning to watch any other games.

And having to come and go from the Rochester game is what I was wondering about. I know there were bigger problems in the women's title game for whatever reasons, so I'm trying to chase down how wide-spread those technical problems may have been ... which I don't think were on the user's end (in my opinion based on a wealth of web streaming and TV production experience).

just a blank screen that said we were in a commercial break.

Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on December 02, 2018, 11:03:19 PM
On a separate note out of curiousity as I try and report some things back to people ... did anyone have any issues with the streaming of the games? I'm not necessarily looking for "it wouldn't start" as that could be anything from your device to the connection to the ...

I'm looking for "commercial breaks weren't really commercials" (just a screen that said commercial break) to the stream stopped and we had to go out and come back in to get the game again. That kind of stuff.

I do NOT want to necessarily overflow this page with complaints and such. I am, again, trying to put together some perspectives before I report some that I've already gathered from others to people I think need to know (and will listen to me). Feel free to DM me instead of crowding this thread or others.

Thanks ... and I at least hope the broadcasts were entertaining. The games certainly were - even if the first one had us sitting outside under a tent.

I really enjoyed them and thought you were terrific onair. 

I had some problems staying connected during the Rochester game, but don't know wwhere the problem was.

The commercial break was annoying.  I figure the folks watching are interested in D3 soccer generally and might have enjoyed some programing like a season retrospective or an interview with a NCAA D3 representative talking about the future.  Even a preview of the woman's game might been fun.

https://unitedsoccercoaches.org/web/Awards/Recipients/2018_United_Soccer_Coaches_NCAA_Division_III_Men_s_All-Mid-Atlantic_Region_Teams.aspx

MAC and Centennial Conferences dominate this list

Quote from: Flying Weasel on November 18, 2018, 03:09:59 PM
Nick West certainly did all he could this year to help Messiah be successful.  But in my opinion they were too reliant on him--not intentionally per se.  Lots of great players out there including a few at Chicago, etc., but West has to be a finalist for POY.

Messiah was the superior team from my observation.  But think you are right about their reliance on West.  Offensive strategy seemed to be get him the ball in the middle and let him go one on one.  When that wasn't working they didn't seem to have a plan B.

Quote from: lastguyoffthebench on November 12, 2018, 01:26:32 PM
MSU dodged a bullet with their player only getting a YC vs NYU in 2nd half   Play was reminiscent of MA Boston vs Haverford where the player blasted the ball at him after the foul.    Followed by a subsequent two handed forceful shove.

I thought it was a clear red.  The refs at the games at Montclair were very reluctant to give cards on Saturday and so the play got very ragged and rough.  Sunday's game was a result of that, with lots of fouls and ugly play.

Quote from: PaulNewman on November 06, 2018, 04:15:42 PM

Ummmm....except it was enough.  And it's not like the cmtes are unfamiliar with Haverford.  The Fords were all set to host both weekends all the way to the Final Four until the debacle on Walton with UMass Boston.

For those who don't catch the reference:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypZO-ULHFxA

Quote from: Mid-Atlantic Fan on November 06, 2018, 02:46:49 PM
F&M has a better resume and is more than deserving of hosting. Haverford also has a good resume and also could have hosted. Both are very good teams with tough draws in NCAA's. I do think F&M has a better resume and is more deserving of hosting than the Fords but both teams have quality players and can make a run. Both could also get bounced in the opening weekend. There are plenty of intriguing match ups!

Hosting is a clear advantage for a team in the tournament.  F&M is not deserving based on conference finish, who they tied and rankings. They lost to three teams that are also in the tournament, who have to travel.   Yes, they have a high SOS and a very impressive RVR, but it ain't enough to overcome the other factors.  Maybe their true strength is that they have been consistently good for a number of years and the folks who gave out the hosting assignments didn't look hard enough this time.

Quote from: PaulNewman on November 06, 2018, 10:45:47 AM
Daddy, what are you doing?  The treatment of Haverford in the polls, rankings, on the board here, etc has mirrored their season.  When they were struggling most of us knew that they might emerge as a strong team that could be formidable, but at the time you have to rate based on the results at that point.  You can't say, oh well, the field sucked, so voters should include that as a consideration.  As Haverford the went on the string together an impressive list of wins, each week adjustments were made to how Haverford was rated. 

Haverford is in the tournament!  Haverford would have made the tournament even if they hadn't won the Centennial tournament!  Now, Haverford did get a very challenging draw, but so did Messiah, JHU and W&L.  Focus on how you all are going to beat NYU and Montclair.

This is called banter.  My initial postings and subsequent postings were to add to the discussion with some perspective that WOULD NOT be reflected in the polls, rankings and might not be available to folks on this Board.  The early struggles were explainable and I explained.  And it looks like I was correct. (And based on YOUR latest suggest poll, you  agree with me)

I think F&M hosting is not supportable based on the FACTS.  I have shared them with you.  You decide if my reasons are accurate.

And at the end of day, it will be all be worked out on the field.  I will be focusing on beating NYU and Montclair and depending on Coach Ward to figure out how.

Quote from: Falconer on November 06, 2018, 10:07:47 AM

I'd say that Hopkins and Cortland are helped not just by playing Messiah--heck, Hartwick played Messiah and it didn't do them much good--they are helped by getting a result against Messiah. And, they might each get another chance to do the same thing in the next few weeks, especially if Cortland ends up playing at home, assuming that the Falcon women host on the second weekend.

They are helped by playing Messiah is this instance that the winning percentage of the teams that they have losses of tied with is increased because of Messiah's success. That percentage would suffer without the Falcons.

Quote from: Shooter McGavin on November 05, 2018, 08:58:25 PM
Team A: 13-3-3/0.615/8-3-1 (F&M)

Team B: 13-4-1/0.603 3-3-1 (JHU)

Team C: 15-2-3/0.579/3-2-3 (Cortland)

Team D: 14-4-0/0.599/5-4-0 (Fords)

Team E: 14-3-1/0.613/6-3-0 (Case)

Got to spend some more time on this while on a webinar this morning.  Another interesting stat (and before y'all start barking I know that it is not part of the NCAAs consideration, but maybe should be);  winning percentage of the teams that these teams did not defeat. Using this:

F&M 66.6%
Hop 70.5%
Cortland 60.7%
Fords 70.3%
Case 61.4%

If you are losing or tied with teams that are not as competitive with the teams that they are playing, that says something about you.

Understand that this has a lot to do with conferences, but that has seemed to be dismissed.  And remember that in this instance, Hopkins and Cortland are helped by playing Messiah.

Knowing that, does it change your rankings of the 5 teams?

DaddyBoy...please rank from best to worst from the 5 resumes below...best as #1 and worst as #5.

WLT/SOS/RvR

Team A: 13-3-3/0.615/8-3-1

Team B: 13-4-1/0.603 3-3-1

Team C: 15-2-3/0.579/3-2-3

Team D: 14-4-0/0.599/5-4-0

Team E: 14-3-1/0.613/6-3-0

Personally I'd go like this

1. Team A
2. Team E
3. Team D
4. Team C
5. Team B
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This is a good exercise.  I would say;
1. Team E
2. Team D
3. Team A
4. Team B
5. Team C

Obviously, I put more value on the non-winning record than you do.
I would be interested in seeing what others would suggest, but I reserve the right to not agree.