Quote from: Domino1195 on November 18, 2019, 10:27:07 AM
Kind of ironic that both UAA teams lost to NCAC teams, the turning point in both games very tough PK's.  Tried to see what happened in the OWU game - the alleged foul was far enough away from the under served ball in. Got to be more of a significant chance negated by a foul for me to whistle that one. But that seemed to change the energy in the game - UC no excuses on the second goal, got caught pressing for an equalizer on the third.

But the deciding PK in the Kenyon game - wow. #27 for UR was having a MOTM game - several Kenyon fans said the same. Second half I was stationed on the fence at the attacking end for Kenyon - oh the chances they missed! #27 loses his footing, falls chest-first on the ball, ball touches his arm. I was 10 yards away - harshest decision - still not sure it meets the current criteria for handling. But the gentlemanly way he accepted the decision - unheard of in this era. My heart goes out to him. Class act in the face of such a decision.

Amended after finding the exact passage from the IFAB changes to handling, March 2019: (page 16:  http://static-3eb8.kxcdn.com/documents/791/171520_110319_IFAB_LoG_changes_and_clarifications.pdf)

"Except for the above offences, it is not usually an offence if the ball touches a player's hand/arm: 
•directly from the player's own head or body (including the foot) 
•directly from the head or body (including the foot) of another player who is close
•if the hand/arm is close to the body and does not make the body unnaturally bigger
•when a player falls and the hand/arm is between the body and the ground to support the body, but not extended laterally or vertically away from the body"

A little late to comment on this. The foul in the OWU-CHI game was committed on #15 for OWU. From what I was told, and saw on the video, the Chicago player wrapped his right arm around the shoulder of #15 and pulled him down, and fell on top of him. I was told that the Chicago player was holding all game.

Kenyon, to their credit does not let up. The game is not over until the final whistle blows. Kenyon makes their own luck, as we have seen with many a last second or half-second goals over the last year. Respect to any team who makes their own opportunity, even if it seems like "luck" to others.

Quote from: blooter442 on November 17, 2019, 03:06:52 PM
Kenyon wins it in the first OT on a PK. Looked away so didn't see the call but the penalty was emphatic. Admirable effort by Rochester, who led for a large part of the game, but I think Kenyon was just a bit better.

Rochester hand ball in the box.

Quote from: PaulNewman on November 16, 2019, 07:11:15 PM
Gutsy, gutsy performance by OWU.  Go beat Hope at Hope and then take out a superb Chicago squad.  OWU had stretches where they could not get or hold the ball.  Chicago is fast and constantly got to balls or turned OWU over quickly.  Gomez often looked like the only OWU player who could hold the ball and make a play.  Tremendous game from Gomez.  Played his heart out.  The OWU backline was very solid as well.  I feel like I've seen Chicago get a lead and then try to milk the game instead of pushing for a couple more goals.  They allowed OWU to hang around and OWU made them pay.  Interesting to watch the OWU coaches too.  Every time they scored there was no celebration and Martin immediately was huddling with I assume his top assistant planning strategy.  Wow.  Huge win for the Battling Bishops and now they will want more....one of the few teams outside of Tufts that knows how to play Calvin if that happens.

OWU has played well these first two tournament games. I was a little surprised at the initial strategy against Chicago, however, adjustments were made in the 2nd half. The adjustments worked. Yes, Hector went into beast mode. OWU finally played a consistent back line for the first time all season in both matches. It made a difference.

Agree that they know how to play Calvin tough. Appreciate the recognition from a Kenyon guy  !

I know for sure ... OWU wants more!!

Quote from: PaulNewman on October 17, 2019, 09:53:37 AM
Well, I thought there would already be some comments, so I'll jump in.

As a Kenyon fan I'm disappointed that the Lords didn't pull out a win (because they actually needed a win more than OWU), but all in all, I'm OK with the result, and while I presume OWU was disappointed especially given a significant stats advantage I think the draw was a good result for both teams.  Both teams had their chances, including both hitting a post or crossbar.  Although they don't share a lot of love I think the two programs have developed a very healthy respect for one another and view the other as very worthy opponents.  Jay Martin in his post-game blurb said "this was a good college soccer game between two very good teams" while adding he thought OWU edged the play in the 2nd half.  Kenyon-OWU ranks right up there with any other rivalry in the country.

Kenyon could/should have been down 2-0 before even getting off the bus.  They looked flat to me but maybe it was nerves because of so many sophs and frosh being on that stage for the first time.  The Lords seemed to either hold the ball too long or get rid of it too quickly when there was no need.  The Lords eventually recovered after about 15-20 minutes and had some stretches of pushing and carrying the play.  Momentum seemed to shift back and forth as one might expect.  At any rate, all of Kenyon's young crew got some invaluable experience, and they did so without having to walk away with a loss. Some might be surprised to realize that Kenyon's last loss to OWU was the Sweet 16 nightmare of 2014, two weeks after beating OWU for the first time in years.  Since then I believe the Lords are 5-0-3 in the series.  They also have gotten their injured upperclassmen back and hopefully those players can round into form over the next few games.  Frosh sensation Mac Nardiello-Smith did not play, so hopefully he will not be out long.  Kenyon may be missing an AA type who can take over a game, but they are so deep I'm not sure Brown has figured out who he wants to play.  OWU is a mature squad with loads of talent, fully capable of beating any team in the nation.  These squads likely will play again in a few weeks and of course could end up playing a third time (if both make the NCAA tourney).

One other observation....I never expected Sam Hosmer-Quint to be this good as a CB.  I don't think he's as athletic as Sam Justice, Myers or Lowry, but he's very smart with good timing and pretty good distribution.  The other CB, Bruneau, a frosh who got a chance because of injuries, has been very impressive as well.  Soph standout Scott Upton started the game with 4 or 5 errors in a row and I thought should have been pulled, but the Lords need him to play well and he improved as the game progressed.  And of course the goal yielded was off the same kind of set piece that haunted Kenyon against JCU earlier this year and versus CWRU in their Sweet 16 game last year where CWRU ended up advancing on PKs.

And congrats to Denison on a good win at Wabash.

Paul, a tie was a fair result when you look at the overall play by both teams. However, your comment "Kenyon could/should have been down 2-0 before even getting off the bus" is very accurate. The centerback #15, got the bouncy ball in front of the goal for his first, then his header was not has snappy as it needed to be. Missed opportunity. He did not play for the first six games, however the team has been 4-0-2 since he has started with four shutouts. Makes you wonder.

What cost OWU the win, occurred on a nice shot on goal by a Kenyon player that was obviously going wide; However, a trailing OWU defender back healed it in front of the goal, which eventually resulted in Kenyon's goal.

I thought Kenyon passed the ball well and were quicker to the ball than OWU. #4 is really quick. OWU was tenacious on defense. Another game with a lot of shots, but no goals by OWU. OWU #17 out ran the left back numerous times, but could not get the right touch and score. If the exact game was played at Kenyon's field the score may have been 5-4 or 6-5.

Lastly, my only complaint is that the Kenyon players were flopping a bit much. I have been told that is a norm for Kenyon, however, I did not see that the last two matches in Kenyon. One of those matches Kenyon did not have to flop.

If the stars are aligned and Kenyon manages to score in a playoff game again with 2 seconds left, OWU will see you again in the NCAC finals.

Potentially tough match for you tomorrow against Wabash. I hope it is a good match.

Quote from: Domino1195 on September 21, 2019, 05:57:16 PM

Quote from: justplaysoccer on September 21, 2019, 04:14:23 PM
It appears he has not played in any games.

I know - even some of the regular OWU fans were commenting last week about his absence. Key player to not have played at all this year.

OWU takes care of Hanover 2-1 today. The Hanover goal on a PK - really hard to see the foul given the distance/non-zoom use of the camera. Hanover plays well enough but with the mistakes they make on defense I can't see them being a factor in the Heartland race.  RHIT first - Transylvania and Hanover battle for second. 

Absolute travesty of the day - so far - PSU-B being gifted a PK with 1:22 left in regulation. Ball launched into the area from midfield cleared easily by a Mt. Aloysius defender - behind him by a couple yards two players collide - never was the ball involved. Ridiculous homer call.

Third PSU-B game I've seen this year. Solid group of connected players, very similar to Mt. Union. Fitting that they will play each other next week.

One day they will stop experimenting with their defense early in the season. That seems to be the norm in recent years.

OWU got the win. It is hard to tell who played better. OWU was more efficient with goals vs. shots compared to their other games. The freshman Harr (#25) is speedy up top.

Otherwise, Capital is up next. We will see which version of either team shows up for that matchup. It could go either way this season.

Kenyon, is rolling along. Steam rolling along. Will they repeat NCAC? Looking like it thus far.

OWU 2-1 over Hanover.

Kenyon on top of Thomas More 4-1 at the half.

I may need one tonight.

Next up OWU and Denison.

I have it on good authority that what happened last Saturday will not be happening again

Hopefully, I will see you on Saturday.

Again, congrats to Kenyon.

Paul, I bet you had to put your heart back in your chest!

Clutch play by Kenyon!

UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kenyon scores with 1 second left in double overtime.

WOW!!

Wabash plus the rain were giving Kenyon a run.  Wabash should be commended.

I just saw the last 90 seconds!

Clutch goal by Lowery! I think it was Lowery.