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#1
Region 1 men's basketball / Re: MBB: NESCAC
February 03, 2023, 02:17:50 PM
Quote from: Homer on January 29, 2023, 03:39:15 PM
In response to Jefffan about the inconsistent play of the mammoths: I was at both games this weekend. Amherst had a height advantage over both Wesleyan and Trinity. They couldn't take advantage of it. Easy shots wouldn't fall. Is it is a matter of concentration, confidence? At the end of the Wesleyan game, Amherst has trouble getting the ball inbounds and nearly lost except for some clutch free throws. They have had trouble with inbounding early in the season. Wouldn't that be something the team would practice and get right? Turnovers and the inability to finish easy shots in the first half of the Trinity game were pathetic. At half time, you could hear Coach Sears screaming through the public bathroom walls which separate the bathrooms from the Amherst men's locker room. The yelling didn't help. The men didn't respond. It was an ugly game from Amherst. From my perspective, it doesn't look like Sears has found a lineup with which he is comfortable. The starting lineup plays 5 minutes and he substitutes a new lineup. In many games , 10-11 players play around 20 minutes or less. I don't see any consistency on the court. Is it frustrating to play for Sears? It's frustrating trying to figure out a game plan, wasting all the height, and wondering if Amherst practices inbounding the ball. it is difficult to watch a season drift away.

It's a hockey substitution thing he's can been reading about. System teams do it all the time.
#2
What will it take for Stevens Point to get back to their competitive past? Is it recruiting, coaching, etc? Is there still hangover from the NCAA violations from years back?

I am thinking about driving down from Hudson Saturday to see LaCrosse host Point, as the locals I spoke to here suggest that Oshkosh is going to be a prohibitive favorite over River Falls which is just down the road.

By the way, it has been cold as hell since I moved here from MA.
#3
LaCrosse allowed WW many paint scores late after being tied 52 all. Lots of boisterous fan voices couldn't help the Indians to a comeback. Oshkosh now has a commanding lead in WIAC.

Off to get a new home in Hudson WI (likely) or Stillwater MN.
#4
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on January 20, 2023, 07:54:28 PM
Whitewater is dangerous, whether they shoot 69% from 3 or not. They are very athletic. They have 5 losses but none of them are "clunkers". They lost to Hope when Evan Thomas was playing, NCC when the Helwig brothers combined for 48, Eau Claire, Oshkosh and La Crosse. However, the rest of their nonconference schedule puts them behind the 8 ball because their SOS is so bad.

Do they still have the head coach with the Fran McCaffery tendencies, just not the hair? Recall seeing them in tourney maybe 10 years ago. Needed some ludes.
#5
Region 1 men's basketball / Re: MBB: NESCAC
January 20, 2023, 06:51:48 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on January 20, 2023, 03:40:18 PM
Quote from: AmherstRules on January 20, 2023, 01:35:54 PM
Quote from: names jaismith on January 19, 2023, 05:58:27 PM
Having watched the Amherst Williams game in person last night, I cannot fathom how Amherst can be 6-10.  I know rivalry games bring out the best in many teams, but how in the world did Amherst ever lose to the likes of Colby Sawyer and Springfield?

Amen brother. The W would have been sweet vs. Williams.

My employer is moving me to Minneapolis ( it's a great promotion) so I need to find a new D3 league to follow live. I'm thinking about living east of St Paul so I can travel to some of the WIAC games in Western WI and also the Twin Cities area conferences. Maybe Westbury or Stillwater or Hudson WI.
Since my spouse is a marine biologist, we think living near the Mississippi River is a great spot for her, too.

Welcome to the Twin Cities! I agree, living east of the Cities would probably be ideal for getting to the Twin Cities schools plus River Falls, Stout and Eau Claire. It leaves you further from St. John's but that might be an OK trade-off.

Found out today the move won't happen until April 1 so this is a 2023/24 issue
#6
Quote from: palum on January 18, 2023, 10:22:21 PM
WW blows out Platteville 85-65 at Bo Ryan Court. 2 things that  led to Platteville's loss were WW's defense forced multiple turnovers and WW shot 69% from beyond the 3 point line. Each team wore warm up shirts with DG4 on them and there was a moment of silence before the game to remember WW's Derek Gray who passed away this past summer. As competitive as the WIAC is on the court it's good to see the respect they have for each other. I never thought I would see a year were WW beats Platteville in basketball and Platteville beats WW in football.

UWW shot 69% from three? They could be dangerous but the overall season scores suggest otherwise.
#7
Region 1 men's basketball / Re: MBB: NESCAC
January 20, 2023, 01:35:54 PM
Quote from: names jaismith on January 19, 2023, 05:58:27 PM
Having watched the Amherst Williams game in person last night, I cannot fathom how Amherst can be 6-10.  I know rivalry games bring out the best in many teams, but how in the world did Amherst ever lose to the likes of Colby Sawyer and Springfield?

Amen brother. The W would have been sweet vs. Williams.

My employer is moving me to Minneapolis ( it's a great promotion) so I need to find a new D3 league to follow live. I'm thinking about living east of St Paul so I can travel to some of the WIAC games in Western WI and also the Twin Cities area conferences. Maybe Westbury or Stillwater or Hudson WI.
Since my spouse is a marine biologist, we think living near the Mississippi River is a great spot for her, too.
#8
Is POTy a big deal in WIAC ?  Always viewed it as more a "team" league.

Injuries impacted that recent game on both sides....Booth can really shoot the 3 and he's apparently out. May hurt Oshkosh too.

Datacast guys think they're both in....unless Eau Claire messes that up.

My personal feeling is all these teams are top 2 in NESCAC.
#9
Region 1 men's basketball / Re: MBB: NESCAC
January 16, 2023, 01:20:22 PM
Amherst to start a 2023 run this week.
#10
I've only seen two WIAC game streams this year....Oshkosh at Platteville and Oshkosh at LaCrosse. Both games the Titans were being blown out through 65% of the game, only to climb back in and win. Saw above that Cole Booth is out, that hurts the Titans outside game. Very impressed they kept their cool being down like 15 in both abovementioned games.


  Back to NESCAC now.
#11
Region 1 men's basketball / Re: MBB: NESCAC
November 22, 2022, 02:53:44 PM
Really looking forward to returning from Fiji missionary trip to watch some NESCAC hoops. I have to stop in Milwaukee during holidays so I suppose I'll check out some WIAC ball there. Probably Oshkosh or Whitewater or maybe Stevens Point.
#12
Region 9 men's basketball / Re: MBB: Midwest Conference
November 20, 2022, 12:00:20 AM
Ripon and SNC usually have some football holdovers.....did they play?
#13
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on November 16, 2022, 01:49:35 PM
Quote from: AmherstRules on November 14, 2022, 10:52:32 AM
Generally agree.  Some D1 coaches ought to get this tape.

Does anyone have any insight on the over and back call on the errant pass that gave Calvin the ball near the end.....looked like the Titan player (Carter Thomas) clearly intercepted the ball and landed on both sides of half court, but the video was very poor.  Wrong call?  Appeared so.  I think he gets to establish position before he can go over and back. Annoucners weren't helpful in clarifying but that was not Dave McHugh out there.  ;D

Sorry for the late response but ... is that a compliment or a slight?   :D

I don't know what happened but from what you described, a player has to establish themselves BEFORE they get the benefit. If he started in the front court, was in mid-air when he caught the ball, and landed with one foot in the back-court ... it's an over-and-back call. He has to establish himself in the back-court first. Because he was last established in the front court, that is where the call is based.

If he started in the back-court and landed straddling the line, then there is no call as he hasn't established himself in the front court as of yet.

To be established in the front court, both feet and the ball have to be in the front court. Once any of those three (two feet and the ball) go into the back-court, then it is an over-the-back call.

The only thing I question is the sequence. If the defense tipped the ball, then gathering it in the back-court by the offense is allowed. However, I believe it still goes back to the previous comment ... if he started in the front-court, got the ball before establishing himself in the back-court, then by landing with possession with a foot in the back-court negates the tip and he's called for over-and-back. But I'll be honest ... I'm not exactly sure as I am trying to figure it out abstractly.

Compliment. Like I said, video angle was pretty bad, hard to tell. The Calvin guys with the D3 pod are going to address it. Apparently it's in doubt with some Oshkosh and Calvin fans.

That Overway kid is a D1 player. How did they hide him?
#14
Could be a tough year for Bob Quillman.   :o
#15
Generally agree.  Some D1 coaches ought to get this tape.

Does anyone have any insight on the over and back call on the errant pass that gave Calvin the ball near the end.....looked like the Titan player (Carter Thomas) clearly intercepted the ball and landed on both sides of half court, but the video was very poor.  Wrong call?  Appeared so.  I think he gets to establish position before he can go over and back. Annoucners weren't helpful in clarifying but that was not Dave McHugh out there.  ;D


Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 12, 2022, 10:03:21 AM
Quote from: Next Man Up on November 11, 2022, 11:32:19 PM
Anyone have some insight as to what happened to the mighty Titans today?

Sloppy passing, a mediocre shooting night, and a giant freshman in the middle of the floor.