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#1
Quote from: Crubacker on March 24, 2025, 04:58:42 PMEtchglow--------------any updates to transfers or commits?

Honestly, been so busy with Lawyer stuff for dad I haven't really been keeping up.  Most recent transfer was Davonte Nephew who was 2nd team All-ASC at CB for Hardin-Simmons in 2022.  Something happened and he only played a couple of games in 2023 then transferred to TAMUK for 2024.  He didn't play there and committed to UMHB recently. 
#2
Quote from: Mavchamp on March 23, 2025, 04:36:38 PMI think affiliates count towards an AQ...... provided I'm reading this article from Pat Coleman correctly
 
https://www.d3sports.com/notables/2022/01/d3-reduces-aq-requirements

It states that it was 7....but reduced to six schools for the AQ.

"extending automatic qualification status to essentially any group of.....schools offering a sport"

The question is.....

Can the ASC and the SCAC both move forward with six for 2026?

SCAC:  Austin College, TLU, Centenary, Lyon, Hendrix

ASC:  UMHB, HSU, ETBU, HPU, McMurry, Schriener

Can the SCAC get Trinity or Southwestern to stay instead of moving to the SAA?  Can they get someone from the Sooner Conference to come over?  Louisiana Christian?  Nelson?  Maybe Belhaven?

Can the ASC lure more from the SCAC?  Will Sul Ross return to D3?  Can they get LCU or Nelson?  Belhaven?





If I'm reading the 2023-2024 DIII Manual correctly, it appears the SCAC will have to have 6 football members for two years before they get an AQ?

Taken from: NCAA Publications
#3
Quote from: crufootball on March 21, 2025, 09:31:14 PM
Quote from: Etchglow on March 21, 2025, 07:03:55 PM
Quote from: The Third Division on March 21, 2025, 06:33:59 PMSo will the scac have an auto bid with 6 teams this upcoming season?

Iirc, they're only at 5 still because Schreiner is only playing JV in 2025 with 2026 the first official year of DIII competition.


I could very well be wrong but I think the struggle is actually Lyon in 2025 as I don't believe they count yet. I think for 2025 they will have Austin College, Centenary, TLU, McMurry and Hendrix.

I had forgotten that Hendrix joins in 2025.  Lyon showed up on the conference standings page but I'm not familiar enough with the minutiae to determine if they count. 
#4
Quote from: The Third Division on March 21, 2025, 06:33:59 PMSo will the scac have an auto bid with 6 teams this upcoming season?

Iirc, they're only at 5 still because Schreiner is only playing JV in 2025 with 2026 the first official year of DIII competition.
#5
Quote from: crufootball on March 21, 2025, 04:53:20 PM
Quote from: Etchglow on March 21, 2025, 04:39:57 PMIn other UMHB news, it looks like they will be looking for a new OL coach as Alex Farah has moved on to Butler University.  Additionally former Hardin-Simmons standout Davonte Nephew has committed to UMHB after a stint at Texas A&M Kingsville.

Yes and no, technically we are replacing Cameron Norcross who was hired in mid February (https://cruathletics.com/news/2025/2/13/football-cameron-norcross-named-offensive-line-coach.aspx) but left for FCS member Montana (https://footballscoop.com/news/sources-fcs-power-montana-finds-new-offensive-line-coach-with-sec-experience). I am sure it is a bigger paying gig then UMHB but it stinks as he had legit D1 experience.

Doh, missed that or forgot about it lol.  Actually, the more I think I forgot... Farah just posted about packing up to move which is why I mentioned it.
#6
In other UMHB news, it looks like they will be looking for a new OL coach as Alex Farah has moved on to Butler University.  Additionally former Hardin-Simmons standout Davonte Nephew has committed to UMHB after a stint at Texas A&M Kingsville.
#7
Quote from: TheChucker on March 19, 2025, 02:20:18 PMNot making annual treks to northern Arkansas (maybe multiple) and Colorado for several sports might have been a factor.

If my spreadsheet fu is working, and the NCAA travel calculator is working...  (for All of the SCAC schools, not just football)

The Average trip distance for McMurry goes from ~358 to ~160 with the shortest trip being HSU at 4 miles and longest trip ETBU at 336.

For Schreiner, the average trip distance goes from ~378 to ~216.  All around, much less travel.

On a funny note, I was lazy and asked ChatGPT what the religious affiliations of the DIII Texas universities and it thought UMHB was going DII as of the fall of 2024 :D :D :D.
#8
Quote from: Ron Boerger on March 17, 2025, 08:12:02 PMAs mentioned earlier in the thread, small seven figures were allegedly being offered as an incentive.  I have heard from several sources today - both Hogue and D3vbwest as well as others - that the magnitude of the amount was correct.  The two schools in question have small endowments - Schreiner around $78M (as of May 2023), McMurry a similar amount (May 2024) - so a million dollars could make a significant difference to those schools.

The source of the funds is unknown.  The ASC front office isn't it. 

Edit:  Hogue only inferred the amounts were correct, but enough others have confirmed it that I'm confident it's correct.

Every time a large chunk of money comes around we always joke they called Drayton Mclane...

New stadium, New scoreboard...
#9
Quote from: The Third Division on March 14, 2025, 01:45:37 PMAny bets how many scam division 4 cheeseburger universities UMHB plays this fall?

I don't know, any bets on how many absolutely braindead takes you'll make on Twitter while professing to be an unbiased D3 football news source?  Dude, go troll somewhere else. 
#10
Interestingly enough, Davonte Nephew has entered the transfer portal from Texas a&m Kingsville. He was an all region and all ASC safety at Hardin Simmons a few years back. He has offers from umhb, hpu and ETBU. He retweeted some umhb football tweets today.
#11
Quote from: Mavchamp on February 24, 2025, 04:56:30 PM
Quote from: Etchglow on February 24, 2025, 02:22:53 PMFound this interesting post over on the D2 boards:

Quote from: MooseLodgeThis was discussed a few months ago. I am close to the UMHB situation. They are not interested in the LSC because they would not have the budget to compete. The Great American Conference is attractive to them because that conference has a much lower average budget than the LSC. There is zero chance they will consider FCS - there's nowhere to come up with another $13-15 million per year to swing it.

Their budget current is $7 million, but tuition-paying athletes are contributing heavily to this. Most of those would go away in an athletic scholarship model, and the university would instead be paying out. When that is all netted out, they need to find $3-4 million a year to be competitive in the GAC, and $5-7 million to be competitive in the LSC.

I would take that post with a grain of salt.  That dude has some unhinged posts about a lot of things.

The LSC is not in great shape ATM but he sure spends a lot of time thumbing his nose at the GAC and especially D3 football.

He thinks we're all going broke and we will be insolvent in the near future.  Discussing the Baptist Four in particular. 

And don't even get him started on how inferior D3 academics is to anyone in D2.....namely the LSC.

I just thought it was interesting from someone who is supposedly "close" to the situation lol.  I'm indifferent at this point as to what happens.  Just wish they'd crap or get off the pot...
#12
Quote from: Crubacker on February 24, 2025, 12:44:07 PMAccording to Texasfootball.com, UMHB and HSU have been in talks with the Lone Star conference for the last 2 years now.  Don't know how that has progressed or if anything has come from this.  Really frustrating that we are not hearing anything from the ASC about what is happening.

Found this interesting post over on the D2 boards:

Quote from: MooseLodgeThis was discussed a few months ago. I am close to the UMHB situation. They are not interested in the LSC because they would not have the budget to compete. The Great American Conference is attractive to them because that conference has a much lower average budget than the LSC. There is zero chance they will consider FCS - there's nowhere to come up with another $13-15 million per year to swing it.

Their budget current is $7 million, but tuition-paying athletes are contributing heavily to this. Most of those would go away in an athletic scholarship model, and the university would instead be paying out. When that is all netted out, they need to find $3-4 million a year to be competitive in the GAC, and $5-7 million to be competitive in the LSC.
#13
Quote from: crufootball on February 21, 2025, 11:43:40 AM
Quote from: Mavchamp on February 20, 2025, 05:52:13 PM
Quote from: TheChucker on February 20, 2025, 12:49:27 PMPer the EADA website (2022 data):

$4.5M - average "D3 with football" athletic department spend
$4.8M - average Texas "D3 with football" spend excluding Sul Ross

$6.9M - UMHB
$6.8M - Trinity
$5.6M - ETBU
$5.5M - Southwestern

$4.5M national average

$4.1M - Lyon
$4.0M - McMurray
$3.9M - TLU
$3.7M - Hardin Simmons
$3.6M - Hendrix
$3.3M - HPU
$3.0M - Austin
$3.0M - Centenary (pre-football data)

The bottom half is basically the new SCAC with spending below the national average. If I had to guess, this is how the SCAC will eventually play out. I'm a bit surprised on the HSU spend; they get a lot out of moderate spending.

ETBU is a wild card as they invest more heavily in athletics than the current SCAC schools. They do have very nice facilities for D3 IMO.

Trinity and Southwestern have already separated themselves voluntarily, UMHB involuntarily, and it probably stays that way.


That's really good info.  Very interesting.  But it's a kind of comparing apples to oranges a little. 

Those numbers alone don't explain that different schools offer not only a different number of sports...some more some less....but some offer sports that aren't common.

ETBU has hockey, bass fishing, gymnastics, sand volleyball.....  sports that aren't traditionally offered at many of the SCAC schools.

So yeah..... their budget is larger.....but it's being spread out over more sports.   It's not like difference in budget is solely being poured into "main sports" i.e..... football..basketball....baseball....softball. 

I can't imagine hockey being cheap.  Nor gymnastics. 

I am curious how those numbers are put together. UMHB doesn't have hockey but we do have A&T and Beach Volleyball but neither of those sports are NCAA sports so I wonder if that is or is not included. We also do have a Bass Fishing team but it is a club sport so I don't believe its funding is connection to athletics at all.

Iirc, Hockey and Fishing are still considered clubs ports for ETBU.  Iirc every bass fishing team at a NCAA affiliated university is a club sport as they don't sponsor it.  Most of them are
#14
Haven't seen it posted, but UMHB hires Cameron Norcross as OL Coach:

https://cruathletics.com/news/2025/2/13/football-cameron-norcross-named-offensive-line-coach.aspx

Looks like he was at Kennesaw State last year, and has worked at UNLV, Vanderbilt, and Fresno State.

Edit to Add: looks like he replaced Alex Farah who appears to have gone to Butler Community College.
#15
Added a slew of commits to UMHB.