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#1
Multi-Regional Topics / Re: D3 Championship Belt
March 20, 2023, 09:55:00 PM
A few appearances in the records that The Belt™ decided to grace us with this year:

  • Robert DiSibio of Washington & Lee scored 46 points in a Belt™ bout on 2/24/2023.  That's the most points from a single player! *
  • In the same game, Roanoke scored 117 points.  (It was a 4OT game vs. Washington & Lee).  That is the fifth most points by a team in a Belt™ bout.
  • The Belt™ changed hands 13 times during 2022-23.  That's the third most in the Modern Era and fifth most of all-time.

* - I do not have player scoring for about half of the Stealth Era games.  DiSibio is the highest scoring player among the games that I have player scoring.
#2
Multi-Regional Topics / Re: D3 Championship Belt
February 27, 2023, 10:42:32 AM
Quote from: Flying Dutch Fan on February 26, 2023, 12:10:53 PM
Has The BeltTM ever entered the NCAA tournament with the same team ItTM graced at the end of the previous NCAA tournment - specifcially after ItTM took a nice tour across several other conferences during the regular season?

Nothing that fits the "nice tour across several other conferences during the regular season".

  • In 2006-07 The BeltTM started the season with Virginia Wesleyan in the ODAC.  That season the tour went from ODAC to USAC for five games before going back to the ODAC during the regular season.  Virginia Wesleyan possessed The BeltTM on three separate occasions.
  • In 2021-22, Illinois Wesleyan of the CCIW started the season with The BeltTM.  For one game The BeltTM went to the SAA (Berry) before going back to the CCIW.  Illinois Wesleyan again held The BeltTM going into the conference tournament.
#3
Multi-Regional Topics / Re: D3 Championship Belt
February 20, 2023, 04:53:59 PM
Quote from: lmitzel on February 20, 2023, 02:35:16 PM
So in updating The MapTM, this is Roanoke's first time in possession of The BeltTM; they had previously lost at home to a holder way back in '07-'08. Not sure about any road games.

I also updated the count at the Salem Civic Center. With the conclusion of this weekend's ODAC Tournament, there will have been 30 BeltTM games played there in the Modern Era.

Roanoke previously held The BeltTM for one day in 2007.  They won the 2007 ODAC semifinal on 2/24/2007, but lost in the ODAC championship the next day.
#4
Multi-Regional Topics / Re: 2022 D3 tourney
March 18, 2022, 11:16:01 AM
Just for fun, I entered a Div 1 bracket based on the results of the D3.  I flipped the right and left side from the way the brackets are printed.  (I wanted Gonzaga into the final four, so I matched them up with Marieta's bracket).  I know, I know... seedings in D1 doesn't match with the way D3 bracket is constructed.  But I did it anyway, matching each team with where they lie when printed, except that I flipped the sides.

The bracket is doing okay.  It's got 13 of the first 16 games right.  I think it is interesting that it correctly predicted:

  • Saint Peters over Kentucky based on Penn State-Harrisburg over St. Joseph's Conn
  • New Mexico St over UConn based on Keene St over Swathmore
  • Richmond over Iowa based on Stevens over Mt Union

The ones it got wrong were:

  • Michigan over Colorado State.  D3 picked CSU based on UW-Platteville beating Marian
  • Tennessee over Longwood.  D3 predicted Longwood based on Calvin beating St. Johns
  • Creighton over San Diego St.  D3 predicted SDSU based on Wabash over Berry

That last one is going to be the killer.  SDSU ain't gonna make it to the final four like Wabash has.
#5
Multi-Regional Topics / Re: 2020 NCAA Tournament
March 07, 2020, 02:13:14 PM
Second round games I'm interested in today:

All of 'em
#6
Multi-Regional Topics / Re: D3 Championship Belt
March 06, 2020, 09:20:04 AM
Quote from: kiko on March 06, 2020, 01:28:41 AM
I downloaded the sheet as an excel file, but can't scroll to see the Stealth EraTM rows (even after unfreezing panes and turning off filters).  It's probably a user deficiency, but since that's where most of the holes are, that's probably the section I will want to see.

I guess "Stealth Era" is living up to it's name.

Just making sure you see...The Stealth Era is on a separate worksheet tab.

If that's not the problem, I'm not exactly sure why you can't scroll.  You are able to scroll on the Modern Era, but not the Stealth Era?
#7
Multi-Regional Topics / Re: D3 Championship Belt
March 05, 2020, 09:44:50 PM
Quote from: kiko on March 05, 2020, 09:20:58 PM
Can you unlock the Stealth EraTM so that when I scroll the spreadsheet I can see the rows?  My excel-fu is weak today.

I have access to a ton of old newspapers and can spend a little time trying to fill in gaps in the time ahead.

I attempted to give you read/write access, but you may need to have a google account for me to give you that access.  If it is more helpful for me to attach the excel file in an email, I can do that.  I appreciate your willingness to help fill in some of these gaps.
#8
Multi-Regional Topics / Re: D3 Championship Belt
March 05, 2020, 05:10:31 PM
I've completed my project and will now share the fruits of my labor.  I've created this spreadsheet which logs all 1,107 games  where The Belt™ has been up for grabs (both Stealth Era and Modern Era).  Not surprisingly, there are many games that I have incomplete information.  (And probably some mistakes I made along the way).  If anyone is able to find information that I'm missing - I'd love to be able to add it into the spreadsheet.

A few interesting tidbits:








Modern Era (434 games)Stealth Era (672 games)Combined
Most Points
(Individual)
1) 45 pts - Nov 19,2017: Keith Brown (Endicott)
2t) 44 pts - Dec 30, 2017: Blayde Reich (York (PA))
2t) 44 pts - Mar 15, 2019: Aston Francis (Wheaton)
4t) 41 pts - Dec 10, 2014: Hunter Hill (Augustana)
4t) 41 pts - Dec 7, 2019: Kienan Baltimore (Carthage)
1) 45 pts - Mar 20,1982: Pete Metzalaars (Wabash)
2) 40 pts - Nov 1978: Michael Harper (North Park)
3) 39 pts - Mar 16, 1996: Joel Holstege (Hope)
4) 37 pts - Mar 19, 2002: Jeff Gibbs (Otterbein)
5) 36 pts - Mar 18, 2000:Sherman Carstersen (UW-Eau Claire)

Individual scoring is known for approximately 98% (426 of 434) games from the modern era

Individual scoring is known for approximately 40% (270 of 672) games from the stealth era
--------------------------------
Most Games
as Defender of The Belt™
1) 26 games - St. Thomas (MN)
2) 23 games - Washington (St Louis)
3) 22 games - Nebraska Wesleyan
4t) 19 games - UW-Whitewater
4t) 19 games - Augustana (IL)
1) 61 games - UW-Platteville
2) 30 games - Potsdam State (SUNY Potsdam)
3t) 28 games - North Park
3t) 28 games - Williams
5) 26 games - UW-Stevens Point
1) 63 games - UW-Platteville
2) 44 games - UW-Stevens Point
3) 32 games - Williams
4t) 31 games - North Park
4t) 31 games - Augustana (IL)
--------------------------------
Most Wins as a
Challenger to The Belt™

(Separate occasions of winning The Belt™)
1) 7 wins - St. Thomas (MN)
2) 6 wins - UW-Stevens Point
3t) 5 wins - Guilford
3t) 5 wins - Illinois Wesleyan
3t) 5 wins - Augustana (IL)
1) 6 wins - UW-Platteville
2t) 5 wins - 6 teams tied.  Widener, Franklin & Marshall, Otterbein, UW-Stevens Point, UW-Eau Claire, UW-Oshkosh
1) 11 wins - UW-Stevens Point
2) 9 wins - Augustana (IL)
3) 8 wins - Illinois Wesleyan
4t) 7 wins - Three teams tied.  St Thomas (MN), UW-Platteville, UW-Whitewater

The following conferences have never won The Belt™:

  • ACAA- American Collegiate Athletic Association 0-1
  • AEC- Atlantic East Conference 0-0
  • AMCC- Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference 0-0
  • CSAC- Colonial States Athletic Conference 0-8
  • CUNYAC- City of New York Athletic Conference 0-9
  • E8- Empire 8 0-1
  • LAND- Landmark Conference 0-0
  • LEC- Little East Conference 0-3
  • LL- Liberty League 0-3
  • MASCAC- Massachusetts State Collegiate Athletic Conference 0-6
  • NAC- North Atlantic Conference 0-1
  • NEAC- North Eastern Athletic Conference 0-1
  • NECC- New England Collegiate Conference 0-3
  • SAA- Southern Athletic Association 0-1
  • SKY- Skyline Conference 0-3
  • SLIAC- St Louis Intercollegiate Athletic Conference 0-7
  • UMAC- Upper Midwest Athletic Conference 0-1
Some of these conferences' current members have held The Belt™ when they were members of other conferences.  For instance, Scranton is currently in the Landmark conference.  They held The Belt™ when they won the championship in 1976, but they were a member of the MAC back then.
#10
Multi-Regional Topics / Re: D3 Championship Belt
March 02, 2020, 09:44:10 AM
Quote from: Veni Vidi Vici on March 02, 2020, 09:35:36 AM
2001 - Chowan - Not in tournament

I should explain this one because it's different than what Ryan has in The BeltTM path:

2001
Calvin
Chicago
Wooster
Savannah Art & Design
Methodist
Lincoln (PA)
St. John Fisher
Nazareth
Rochester
SUNY Geneseo
SUNY Potsdam
SUNY Brockport
SUNY Poly
SUNY Geneseo
SUNY New Paltz
SUNY Brockport
SUNY Geneseo
SUNY Oswego (non-champion)
2002
SUNY Oswego
St. Lawrence
Christopher Newport
Randolph-Macon
Emory & Henry
Virginia Wesleyan
Emory & Henry
Hampden-Sydney
Catholic
Clark
Elizabethtown

Otterbein

Instead it is:
2001
Calvin
Chicago
Wooster
Savannah Art & Design
Chowan (non-champion)
2002
Chowan
Lycoming
Alvernia
Gettysburg
Muhlenberg
Ursinus
Johns Hopkins
Gettysburg
Franklin & Marshall
Gettysburg
Lycoming
Randolph-Macon
Otterbein

SCAD's loss to Methodist came before they beat Wooster.  So instead The BeltTM was passed from SCAD to Chowan and spent the summer in North Carolina.  This was the last time that a non-champion held The BeltTM through the summer.
#11
Multi-Regional Topics / Re: D3 Championship Belt
March 02, 2020, 09:35:36 AM
Quote from: lmitzel on March 01, 2020, 12:28:06 PM
With their 78-72 win over Illinois Wesleyan last night, Elmhurst carries The BeltTM into the NCAA Tournament, where they will also play for that other, lesser object of wood and metal.

But the Blue Jays will not have history on their side. Here's how, in the Modern Era, holders going into the tournament have fared:

One and done: '17 Bethel, 12 Claremont-Mudd-Scripps, '09 Transylvania, '08 Chicago
Round of 32: '19 Nebraska Wesleyan, '18 York (PA), '07 Hampden-Sydney
Sweet 16: '14 Albertus Magnus, '11 UWSP, '10 Wooster
Elite 8: '16 Alma
Final 4: '13 St. Thomas
Title Game: '15 Augustana
Champion: None

In the Stealth Era:
1976 - LeMoyne-Owen - One and done (also Round of 32)
1977 - Trenton State (TCNJ) - Not in the tournament
1978 - Upsala - One and done (also Round of 32)
1979 - Millikin - Not in tournament
1980 - Ripon - One and done (also Round of 32)
1981 - North Park - One and done (also Round of 32)
1982 - Widener - Sweet 16
1983 - DePauw - Not in tournament
1984 - Wabash - Not in tournament
1985 - Earlham - Not in tournament
1986 - Centre - Sweet 16
1987 - Potsdam St (SUNY Potsdam) - Elite 8
1988 - Dubuque - Sweet 16
1989 - Otterbein - Elite 8
1990 - UW-Whitewater - Not in tournament
1991 - UW-Whitewater - Not in tournament
1992 - UW-Platteville - Final 4
1993 - Calvin - Elite 8
1994 - Otterbein - One and done
1995 - Muhlenberg - One and done
1996 - UW-Oshkosh - Round of 32
1997 - Richard Stockton - Sweet 16
1998 - Wilkes - Final 4
1999 - UW-Platteville - CHAMPION
2000 - UW-Stevens Point - Elite 8
2001 - Chowan - Not in tournament
2002 - Gettysburg - One and done
2003 - Hanover - Sweet 16
2004 - Williams - Title Game
2005 - UW-Stevens Point - CHAMPION
2006 - DePauw - One and done
#12
Multi-Regional Topics / Re: D3 Championship Belt
February 27, 2020, 05:10:54 PM
Can anybody tell me if Chowan was DIII in 2000-01? 

Wikipedia says that the USA South (then called Dixie Conference) accepted Chowan in 2000.  Not sure how much to trust Wikipedia.

USA South's website clearly shows 7 teams in 2000-01, with Chowan entering the following year.

Perhaps were they a D3 Independent that year?
#13
Pick-ems, fantasy leagues, etc. / Re: MIAA pick 'em
February 21, 2020, 03:40:10 PM
Feb 22

4 - Albion
3 - Alma
2 - Calvin
1 - Trine
#14
Multi-Regional Topics / Re: D3 Championship Belt
February 20, 2020, 07:33:05 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on February 20, 2020, 05:03:27 PM
Quote from: kiko on February 20, 2020, 01:03:48 AM
Quote from: Veni Vidi Vici on February 19, 2020, 10:54:49 PM
Lebanon Valley has good records on their website.  They have recorded that they beat Moravian on 1/28/1995.  Feels pretty likely that that was Moravian's next game and that they passed The BeltTM to Lebanon Valley instead of back to Widener as was recorded.


I can confirm from perusing archives of the Morning Call that this was Moravian's next game.  1/28 (Lebanon Valley-Moravian) was a Saturday, and 1/30 (F&M-Lebanon Valley) was a Monday.

The existential question to me is: F&M had already surrendered the BeltTM when it was taken away from them by the forfeitures.  Can an alternate path exist if the BeltTM was no longer in their possession when this happened?

Quote from: lmitzel on February 20, 2020, 04:47:41 PM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 20, 2020, 04:37:22 PM

Did we just eliminate Goucher's only Belt time?  Dave's not going to be happy about that.

Yeah we did. Sorry Dave.
Or does this mean that F&M retroactively "vacated" holding The BeltTM and it does not impact those teams who competed on the court for ItTM?  Goucher could still lay claim to holding ItTM during those games in Goucher's history.

Actually Goucher's not holding The BeltTM has nothing to do with the F&M scandal.  The path was found to be different when it was discovered that Moravian played and lost to Lebanon Valley before they lost to Widener.  The newly discovered BeltTM path led away from Goucher and instead led into the F&M forfeit game.
#15
Multi-Regional Topics / Re: D3 Championship Belt
February 20, 2020, 09:28:57 AM
Quote from: kiko on February 20, 2020, 01:03:48 AM

The existential question to me is: F&M had already surrendered the BeltTM when it was taken away from them by the forfeitures.  Can an alternate path exist if the BeltTM was no longer in their possession when this happened?

Thank you very much for your research on this kiko.

Knowing that the forfeiture did not occur until several months after the game, I am of the opinion that fits exactly into the scenario in which Just Bill made his ruling.  (I quoted his post on the previous page).  If my interpretation is correct, The BeltTM path is:
1995
Lebanon Valley
Widener
Moravian
Lebanon Valley
Franklin & Marshall
Muhlenberg
Franklin & Marshall
Trinity (CT)
UW-Platteville