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#1
Quote from: allsky7 on October 31, 2009, 09:45:35 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on October 31, 2009, 09:18:07 PM
LLAMA
I have referred to some 9-1 ODAC teams sittiing and in essence BC went 8-1. The non conference loss would not have kept the Eagles out. I feel your pain; not as bad because it's your team. Generally BC has been a good playoff team. In the early 2000's BC and HSC KILT each other with one loss. Was the famous Skoal there with a brew?

     If memory serves.....E&H got left out with a 10 and 0 record before the ODAC had the AQ.

It was alot harder to make it to the NCAA's, no AQ's for anyone and only 16 teams made it. 4 from each region.
#2
Quote from: allsky7 on October 03, 2007, 09:31:39 AM
Quote from: Llamaguy on October 03, 2007, 08:30:56 AM
Quote from: gone on October 03, 2007, 08:02:29 AM
Quote from: Llamaguy on October 02, 2007, 09:11:31 PM
Quote from: fallguy on October 02, 2007, 08:38:31 PM
Pat I agree, Marty usually uses most of the clock with motion and personnel changes. My point was that as with most no huddle offenses Marty has always speed things up to catch teams changing personnel. These coaches have squared off over ten times to not be prepared for a fast pace is just not being prepared period.

I still contend that it was Marty's brilliance (yes, I said brilliance) with his game plan more than Coach Clark not being prepared. I got an inkling when lisitening to HSC's radio broadcast in the first half. Their radio guys said, "where does Marty get all of these plays, we haven't seen any of these run in the previous 4 games." I followed that up by talking to a BC defensive coach who confirmed that not only were they different plays but they were run out of the same formations the BC kids saw on tape. BC thought they knew what was coming execpt in every instance the play went in a totally new direction. That coupled with the quick snap and keeping the RB available for the shovel pass on every passing play was the difference. When I see Marty again, my question will be, "when did you start to compile the 2007 BC vs. HSC game plan?" My bet is when there was still a chill in the air in January or Feburary. Again my hats off to Marty on this go round.

E H dad,
No ill feelings here about E&H. May the best team win. BC didn't go to the playoffs last year and we are still fielding a team again this year. The world didn't end and won't if we lose again this year.  ;)

Marty Favret is brilliant, he knows how to put players in position to be successful and that is the make up of a good coach. Favret destroying a BC defense is nothing new, he has been doing that for close to years (at CUA and HSC). BC just had enough overall talent to win the games against HSC but now it appears the overall talent is even the results changed (at least this year).
GO CARDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry Gone you raced across the line! I said he was brilliant for this game. Now in past years I saw him go for it on 4th down in his own territory more than once. In 2005 he actually kept BC in the game in the first half in my opinion. LOL of him destroying a BC defense being nothing new. Check the stats and talk to the brother of your team's QB. I have spoke to JD and I'm sure he will enlighten you on BC's defense. As for talent, HSC had 2 seniors, a SO QB and a tightend who excelled on Saturday. If you think the talent is now even I can't wait until the final game of the year when your Cardinals fly into Jopson field. Get back to me after the game on that one.  ;)

     I have seen 4 of the last 5 Tiger/Eagle matchups. No question the Tiger O did a number on BC Saturday. I do not have stats in front of me but unless my memory has gotten worse than I think  :o, I don't recall Tiger O's "destroying" the Eagle D the games I  attended in the last 5 years.
    There is no doubt Marty is a good coach. I agree with Llama...the game plan Saturday was exceptional. I suppose time will tell whether or not he is "brilliant". When he puts together a D in line with the 70 and 71 Tigers teams to go along with his O and a few ODAC titles, then we can talk "brilliant" perhaps. And go ahead and make some noise in the NCAA's too while you are at it.  ;) As a Tiger fan, that's not asking too much is it?  :D

Maybe I should stated I was only talking about the Favret Offense vs the BC Defense. The wins do not suppport my point but here are the stats to do so. He puts his best players in position to make plays.
Favret's O vs Clark's D

CUA (OC) vs BC
1997 581 yds 35 pts
1998 409 yds 36pts
1999 629 yds 35 pts

HSC (HC) vs BC
2000 306 yds 12 pts
2001 456 yds 42 pts
2002 322 yds 7 pts
2003 333 yds 28 pts
2004 465 yds 28 pts
2005 431 yds 24 pts
2006 276 yds 13 pts
2007 643 yds 38 pts
#3
Quote from: Llamaguy on October 02, 2007, 09:11:31 PM
Quote from: fallguy on October 02, 2007, 08:38:31 PM
Pat I agree, Marty usually uses most of the clock with motion and personnel changes. My point was that as with most no huddle offenses Marty has always speed things up to catch teams changing personnel. These coaches have squared off over ten times to not be prepared for a fast pace is just not being prepared period.

I still contend that it was Marty's brilliance (yes, I said brilliance) with his game plan more than Coach Clark not being prepared. I got an inkling when lisitening to HSC's radio broadcast in the first half. Their radio guys said, "where does Marty get all of these plays, we haven't seen any of these run in the previous 4 games." I followed that up by talking to a BC defensive coach who confirmed that not only were they different plays but they were run out of the same formations the BC kids saw on tape. BC thought they knew what was coming execpt in every instance the play went in a totally new direction. That coupled with the quick snap and keeping the RB available for the shovel pass on every passing play was the difference. When I see Marty again, my question will be, "when did you start to compile the 2007 BC vs. HSC game plan?" My bet is when there was still a chill in the air in January or Feburary. Again my hats off to Marty on this go round.

E H dad,
No ill feelings here about E&H. May the best team win. BC didn't go to the playoffs last year and we are still fielding a team again this year. The world didn't end and won't if we lose again this year.  ;)

Marty Favret is brilliant, he knows how to put players in position to be successful and that is the make up of a good coach. Favret destroying a BC defense is nothing new, he has been doing that for close to years (at CUA and HSC). BC just had enough overall talent to win the games against HSC but now it appears the overall talent is even the results changed (at least this year).
GO CARDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#4
Quote from: STINK BOX on October 17, 2006, 02:55:53 PM
How bout them Tigers!!!!!!!  Marty Ball has hit a all new high.  The Star Quarteback is gone and Marty has to actually start coaching.  Maybe "flipping it out there" on gameday is not such a good strategy.  How bout take a look at the best team in the confrence.  Great Defense...superior running game and i believe i have actually seen them punt the ball.  How many fingers do you think Favrett will point before he realizes where the blame lies.  how bout stop crying and get in the office and start coaching.  Start spreading the talent around put a decent player on defense and special teams.  Take some pride in the program and pull this thing around.   
Stink Box,
Don't take it out on Favret because the tigers are not doing well. He is an excellent coach. Remember it was his aggressive style that got HSC back (if they ever were) on the map. He gave you and the rest of the tigers something to be proud of (even if you never beat BC, but hell nobody in the ODAC did, until last week, Congrats to Guilford).
He has coached alot of great D3 players and teams. Every coach and team has a rough season or two or three
Go Cards!!!!
Just one CUA and Gonzaga alum sticking up for another!!!
#5
Quote from: K-Mack on September 22, 2006, 01:48:50 AM
GuilfordSchmilford.

It's R-MC/CUA week.

Damn man, this used to be a huge game.

At least it's always entertaining.

Just a has been stopping in to reminisce and pull for the Jackets this week.

Carry on with your meaningful conversations ...
K Mack
I remember those days.
I still remember that game you had against us.
The 50-50 tie.
the CUA comeback in 99.
the Macon comeback in 00
It used to be such a rivalry
#6
Quote from: wrighthall220 on September 20, 2006, 03:11:46 PM
Quote from: gone on September 20, 2006, 02:51:39 PM
Quote from: Hug on September 20, 2006, 02:48:16 PM
gone,

I was not happy when the reverse and fake punt was called. I did not think that was the right thing to do.


Agreed, If you score 100 points with your 2nd and 3rd stringers in the game then shame on your opponent but to try and "trick" a team when you are up big is (dare I say it about the great Mike Clark) classless

In 2001 the 1st and 2nd string players alternated series.. the QB stayed in but the skill players and O-line rotated.   But you have to also remember that the game was far from over in the 3rd qtr.    The score was only 42-0 which is far from a safe score considering the score in 2000 was 46-33 in favor of BC.  Coach Clark put the nail in the coffin and started the 2nd half with the 2nd string players and by the end of the 3rd qtr the 3rds were playing.    I'm not trying to justify anything that the coaching staff did or should have done but I'm guessing that the hard feelings on the part of the CUA fans and players comes from the fact that you all were used to winning.  All you have to do is look at the scores CUA put up in 2000 and 1999 to see they shouldn't be throwing stones at BC.   40+ games happen a lot and when teams are used to winning it stings more.  The day will come when a team gets a jump on BC and they'll score as many points as they can... does it make it right? I'm not sure but I wouldn't be a sore loser over a 55-13 game when you've put other teams on the other end of that score in the past.

As I stated before it is not a problem (with the other team) if you can not stop their 2nd and 3rd team players from scoring TDs. Not once during CUA "winning" years did we do something like that. The score may indicate a lopisided win but we never fake punts or ran reverses with that kind of score.
BTW, I can even understand playing your some of your starts on the 1st or 2nd drive in the 3rd quarter. The score did hurt but the plays that I am talking about was a slap in the face.
But my point was that the BC faithful should not complain because their team is just as guilty.
But enough of this topic.
Good luck to everyone in the ODAC and Go Cards, time to bounce back from a disappointing loss.
We are still in your corner!!!!!
#7
Quote from: Hug on September 20, 2006, 02:48:16 PM
gone,

I was not happy when the reverse and fake punt was called. I did not think that was the right thing to do.


Agreed, If you score 100 points with your 2nd and 3rd stringers in the game then shame on your opponent but to try and "trick" a team when you are up big is (dare I say it about the great Mike Clark) classless
#8
Quote from: Bmore BC on September 20, 2006, 02:15:59 PM
Quote from: Matt Barnhart (kid) on September 20, 2006, 01:40:18 PM
Quote from: gone on September 20, 2006, 01:37:11 PM
I remember a few years back (2001) BC was beating CUA really bad and fake a punt , ran a reverse, and a few playaction passes deep in the second half. By the way BC had already clinched a playoff berth and it was the last game of the season.

My take is that the BC coaches wanted that stuff to be on film so our second round opponent had to plan for it.

Running punt returns out of bounds with no one in sight and kicking field goals on second down is just wrong.  I'd rather them play until the end.  Had it been 103-0, so be it.

I think this also had something to do with the cheap shots CU gave BC the year before.  But Kid is correct. Its mostly to get things on film to have other teams prepare.

I too had a problem with MUC kicking field goals on 2nd down. Think that is more of an insult then running the score up. But you can't really complain if you can't stop the other team.


BC faithful should not be talking about cheap shots. As a former player I got plenty of (and saw many other)cheap shots from the BC players. I am sure every team has their few players that are cheap shot artist so please don't make that the reason for the coaches calling for a fake punt and reverse. I can understand the player wanting to do "damage".
#9
Quote from: Hug on September 20, 2006, 10:33:41 AM
Quote from:  b]Meanwhile Mount Union College -- year-in, year-out home of the worst sportsmanship in Division III -- relentlessly ran up the score on Otterbein, winning 71-14.

I can only relate to the 66-0 drubbing that the Eagles took in 2003.  A few thoughts.....
1) A few classless fans heckled the BC crowd the entire fourth quarter, in front of security and the MU pressbox. Absolutely could have been stopped but wasn't.
2) MU starters were left in the game way too long, in my opinion. I kept thinking to myself, if your stud left tackle goes down with a MCL when the score is 48-0, then it would serve you right.
3) Kicking field goals on second down is crap.  I know playoff rosters are limited, but put your worst team on the field, run it up the gut 4 times, if you score, you score.


Hug, your beloved BC Head coach has done the same thing so it is just a part of the game or let me guess it is ok when BC does it because they very good reason.
I remember a few years back (2001) BC was beating CUA really bad and fake a punt , ran a reverse, and a few playaction passes deep in the second half. By the way BC had already clinched a playoff berth and it was the last game of the season.
#10
Quote from: muchacho on September 15, 2006, 03:17:15 PM
Good luck to the Cards again tommorow. Beating McDaniel will give Catholic its first 3 game winning streak since October of 2002. Its time to take advantage of a struggling McDaniel team and try to make a statement at the Duf. It also wouldn't hurt to get a big time win to make up for the lousy officiating at the end of the game with the Green Terror last year.

GO CARDS!!!!
Keep it going.
#11
GOOD LUCK CARDS!!!!!
Play hard and protect your (new) home field.
#12
CUA 3 Shenadoah 0 halftime
#13
Quote from: Matt Barnhart (kid) on August 31, 2006, 10:01:25 AM
I always knew there were a lot of BC fans on this board ... but I had to see how 'bad' it was.  So here is a list of who has posted from what schools in the last month on here...

Bridgewater
bcphotos
Bwana
CBE
enzoneking6
Gal
Hug
Jeremybozz
Llamaguy
Matt Barnhart (kid)
MommaG
Olinemom
Outsider14
pakownr97
Photos for bc
religion_major
skoaltrain
wrighthall220
xbcdad

Catholic
muchacho
Emory & Henry
casper
EHC Old Man
EHCPride
EHCTailgate
e h dad
frenjr

Guilford
abnrgr
hasanova
Trenches

Hampden-Sydney
HSC85

Randolph-Macon
Jacketlawyer

Washington & Lee
Forma80
oldirtytim
tTank77
WLU78

So as you can see, Bridgewater has had 18 people post ... with the rest of the ODAC having a total of 16.  Everyone has had at least one rep, but the H-SC one has only posted once (ever).


You can add me to CUA's list. I read everyday, just don't comment on most of the topics. I have been on here since 99 (under a different name).

GOOD LUCK TODAY CARDINALS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#14
Quote from: Ralph Turner on July 26, 2006, 11:31:23 PM
Quote from: wrighthall220 on July 26, 2006, 04:01:53 PM
Quote from: kirasdad on July 26, 2006, 11:30:22 AM
Coach Montgomery is adding more MUC graduates to his staff.  In addition to Stan Watson (DC/Linebackers) Anthony Frate and Joe Montgomery will be coaching the Defensive Backs this year.

How old are these coaches?  I've always questioned if players respect younger coaches or older coaches more..

I have always considered a younger coach with the youth and enthusiasm as one type of coach bringing one type of strength to a program.  The players respond in one way to the younger coach.

The older coach is a father or grandfather figure who brings a special type of love and wisdom to the young men that many of them seek and crave.  For some unfortunate players, this father figure has been absent in their lives for as long as they can remember.  The older coach thus has a different effect on the team.

I think that good coaching staffs have numerous presonality types to reach all players.  I know that the staff at McMurry has managed to find a diverse group of individuals, from the AD thru the coaches and onto the training and support staff, who really care for the student-athletes.  I am sure that many D3 programs have coaching staffs that are similarly constituted. :)
I think it has a lot more to do with the attitude and maturity of the coach and players.  There has to be a line between the coach and player that is not cross regardless of age. Everyone on the team has a job and as long as you respect each other's responsibilities then it should not be a problem.
#15
Quote from: Pat Coleman on July 06, 2006, 09:00:24 PM
Temple today hired Tom Deahn as director of football operations.
http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/sports/14973912.htm

He was the guy people wanted to have replace Rick Novak as head coach at Catholic in 1994. He didn't get the job. Some guy named Tom Clark got it instead. :)

That is good news for Tom!!!! and Temple is on the way up while Maryland is not going anywhere anytime soon.

I think Tom Clark was the right choice by Bob Talbot.
GO CARDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!