Quote from: lumbercat on March 09, 2025, 09:40:00 PMPro Day invites especially in Orono Maine mean next to nothing. They may have a small pool of players for the Maine Pro Day and made a call to Coach Cosgrove to provide some additional bodies so they have enough guys to run the battery of drills.
The only CBB guy who should be considered here is Koy Price.

If koy price had done what he did this year at safety I would agree but he has essentially played defensive end the last two years for bowdoin and he doesn't exactly fit the mold for that in the NFL. One of the best to do it in the nescac, would have loved to see him try and transfer up if he had tape at his natural position

Quote from: westcoastnescac on March 09, 2025, 10:27:07 AMWhat are we smoking up in Waterville? Julian young declaring for the draft?? Only where going pro is Microsoft office

Im being told that him Joshua East and three other seniors have been training for U Maine's pro day. Very interesting.

What is strange to me is that East and Young both entered the portal after their junior years and neither one got anything of note which is why they ended back at Colby. Wish both of them the best but this has to be one of the stranger things I have seen.

Also trying to put Donovan wood and Cole Kenn on in the same class of grad transfer as Helbig or Richardson is kind of ridiculous. Both middlebury guys are walk ons at their new schools. Helbig and Richardson both were offered full scholarship. Not to knock the accomplishments of wood or Kennon because I've heard nothing but good things about both but I feel like that distinction needs to be made. Wood had a pwo  from sacred heart and was set to go to Marist before deciding to walk on at SC while Richardson had 20+ scholarship offers. Kennon I believe had a walk on opportunity from Mizzou but picked Duke instead while Helbig had Multiple FBS scholarship offers as well.

Quote from: Scoops on January 30, 2025, 08:37:04 PMA D1 school taking a Wesleyan OL is pretty funny. 63 sacks allowed over the last two seasons. Someone in the Marist scouting department must know something we don't...

But yes, Tufts and Middlebury are the only other schools in the league with a significant number of grad transfers. Tufts also had 2 kickers who went on to Duke. Midd has Donovan Wood at USC, and Cole Kennon at Missouri, and of course Hauschka who went on to a successful NFL career. Will be interesting to see how many D1s start recruiting the league given the recent run of success. It's also curious that so many guys are falling through the cracks. How did the ivy/patriot/pioneer schools whiff on these kids?

It was posted by the UC Davis football account that they signed him

Quote from: Scoops on January 19, 2025, 06:29:15 PMI'm not sure where you saw that, but I don't see it on Richardson's Twitter account?

Quote from: ItsATuftSituation on January 18, 2025, 08:43:39 PMTy Richardson has transferred to UC Davis. Was announced on their Twitter recently. Tough loss for Jumbos.

Massive loss for the jumbos. Tall task for civetti and company to not only replace him but also replace Timmins at the other corner spot next year.

A side note that I found interesting from my brief google search, It seems like UC Davis may not only be a football upgrade but an academic one as well with it being ranked above Tufts in many of the national rankings I came across.

Quote from: ItsATuftSituation on January 18, 2025, 08:43:39 PMTy Richardson has transferred to UC Davis. Was announced on their Twitter recently. Tough loss for Jumbos.

Does anybody have a prediction of who the presumed starter will be at schools that don't bring back their starter from last year?

I don't see a world where Richardson turns down 20+ FBS and FCS offers to go back to Medford especially given the uncertainty of what that team will look like next year.

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Quote from: Scoops on January 11, 2025, 06:45:23 PMAre we forgetting Ty Richardson? Seems like he's a fair bet for DPOTY given he hasn't committed elsewhere yet.

Quote from: Nescacman on January 09, 2025, 11:48:46 PMOn the defensive side of the ball, we'd argue that the Lord Mammoth's Harmon and Wesleyan's Connors belong in the discussion with UBates Ryan. Harmon and Connors are our early picks to challenge for NESCAC DPOTY in 2025.

We are assuming the Ty will not be a Jumbo next year. We think that is a pretty safe assumption based on what we are hearing.

NM

Quote from: lumbercat on January 09, 2025, 07:50:21 PMAgree NM but it can be hard to assign a position to Price and I think that's where some of these "All Star" teams are superficial and miss a lot of deserving players. Price has played Corner, Nickel, SSafety, LB inside behind 3 technique, SS, MLB and then OLB and DE on the edge.

He's a true Hybrid in kind of an unprecedented way.....I just think they have trouble placing him in a specific position.

Maybe they need to create a new position for Price.....how about GW = "Game Wrecker"
 
The best defensive player in the league- hands down. And that comes from a Bates guy. Everybody scratched their heads about the big plays made by the Bowdoin D. Much of it is clearly attributable to the boom or bust gambling scheme but the X factor was Price. Without him they would gotten killed with that gambling scheme but they had a fantastic playmaker on that D and he's THE reason they had success.

Young up at Colby was a very good one also but not even close to Price. In fact, Young was the best LB at Colby by only be a whisker. Keep the name Sebastian Romain in your notes for next year for the underachieving Mules.

If we're talking NESCAC linebackers don't overlook Ryan Rozich at Bates. Went unoticed by many but clearly one of the best in NESCAC this year. He has 2 years to go. If any doubt check the Wesleyan tape. He separated Cards WR from the Football on a hospital ball thrown across the middle with a memorable hit late in the game that influenced the outcome against the NESCAC champs.

Some good ones coming back in the CBB along with the rest of the league. Look forward to next year.

Aside from Lynskey at bates this year seems the be the first yeae in my memory where there are this few consensus "superstar" players coming back across the league.

Quote from: nescac1 on December 30, 2024, 09:44:57 PMIt's interesting that Jaden and Ty Richardson and Brady Jung all went to the Menlo School and ended up forsaking NESCAC for D1 (assuming Ty does indeed leave Tufts).  Jung was committed to Amherst, where he would join his brother, before switching very late in the Spring to USC.

But yeah, generally speaking I agree with NESCACFball.  There aren't a significant enough pool of guys who D1 schools would want to poach after 1-2 seasons in NESCAC who would have been missed as seniors in high school. 

Looking at underclassmen on the all-NESCAC team, Ryan Lynskey was the only other first-team all-NESCAC guy which seems like a prerequisite for attracting serious D1 interest as an undergrad.  And Lynskey has shown no signs of looking to leave Bates.  Beyond he and Richardson, I can't even think of anyone with at least two years of eligibility who a D1 program would be focused on trying to recruit as a transfer. What made grad transfers so appealing is that you had guys who were four years out of high school, who had often had 3-4 years of reps as a starter and that many years of physical development as well, so D1 schools could see where they could plug in right away.

I think the Brady jung situation is a little different because he was a walk on at USC.

To your point about those guys going to the same school, Wesleyans starting RB this year Tyler Flynn and Bates Sergio Beltran both are from that same high school I believe. Carter Jung (Amherst), Avery Romain(Amherst), and Ben Banatao(trinity) also went there with them.

Quote from: Scoops on December 30, 2024, 08:40:25 PMSerious question: With all the transfer portal madness reaching the NESCAC, are we going to start seeing "representatives" from higher level programs roaming the sidelines in the future?

Outside of ty richardson this year the only other undergrad transfer I can remember is Tyler Jameson who went to sacred heart (barely a d1). All the other transfers we've send have bend grad transfer guys which should slow down significantly since none of these guys have covid years anymore.

Something else to note is that many schools do not start for another 2 weeks or more and if I remember correctly his brother did not commit to USC until late in the process so there is no telling who else may offer him before it's all said and done.

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Quote from: NESCACFball24/7 on December 26, 2024, 12:07:52 AMTy Richardson is the first Nescac Undergrad transfer I can remember to have received an FBS offer in the portal. Congratulations to him. I always wonder with a kid like that is tufts trying to almost recruit him to bring him back or using him more as a recruiting pitch to high schoolers and trying to help him get somewhere?

What about Ty's brother last year at USC? And of course, Nick Helbig transferred to Wake via the portal. So we have at least two prior NESCACers that not only received FBS offers via the portal but actually matriculated at an FBS/Power 4 school (and were scholarship athletes).

As I specified before undergrad transfer. Both of those were graduate transfers and had another 2 years to develop and gather film before entering the portal.

Got it.

A bit confused by this move. He's giving up the potential to earn a degree at one of the best schools in the country (Tufts) and continue to excel in the NESCAC to transfer to play football at a school that is one of the worst FBS football schools in the country (UMass). We realize that UMass just went out and hired a new HCOF who was the DC at Rutgers but UMass isn't even in a conference so we can't imagine that there is a huge NIL $$$ opportunity at UMass for Ty either. He could have graduated from Tufts and then transfer potentially to a better FBS opportunity. Head scratcher to us. in any event, we wish him the best of luck.   

I hate this take for so many reasons and honestly comes off as such a snobby remark when talking about a kid who is just trying to better his situation and seems to have the support of the tufts staff behind based on their activity on social media.

Posting Umass does not necessarily mean he's going to UMass they just offered him. Also the impact on a full ride scholarship va paying for a nescac 100k education can be huge for a family. Lastly the days of playing at a nescac for 4 years and then graduating and leaving are over due to the covid year no longer being a thing and the fact that guys cannot redshirt at the d3 level unless it's medical.

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Quote from: NESCACFball24/7 on December 26, 2024, 12:07:52 AMTy Richardson is the first Nescac Undergrad transfer I can remember to have received an FBS offer in the portal. Congratulations to him. I always wonder with a kid like that is tufts trying to almost recruit him to bring him back or using him more as a recruiting pitch to high schoolers and trying to help him get somewhere?

What about Ty's brother last year at USC? And of course, Nick Helbig transferred to Wake via the portal. So we have at least two prior NESCACers that not only received FBS offers via the portal but actually matriculated at an FBS/Power 4 school (and were scholarship athletes).

As I specified before undergrad transfer. Both of those were graduate transfers and had another 2 years to develop and gather film before entering the portal.

Ty Richardson is the first Nescac Undergrad transfer I can remember to have received an FBS offer in the portal. Congratulations to him. I always wonder with a kid like that is tufts trying to almost recruit him to bring him back or using him more as a recruiting pitch to high schoolers and trying to help him get somewhere?

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Quote from: NESCACFball24/7 on November 24, 2024, 05:23:30 PMAm I the only one wondering how these coaches are supposed to run a college practice with 85 players? That seems like a recipe to get kids hurt

Huh- easier to run a practice with 85 guys- I don't care how many kids you have on the roster- no one is doing full padded practices 3 days a week in game prep in this era of concussions- what are you talking about. Full padded practices with full contact are not the norm anymore. So having 90 guys or 130 guys in half pads is irrelevant.
The issue with roster size is depth-- when the season progresses and injuries set in that's when you want the numbers of a large roster.

If you have  ~30 kid on each side of the ball during team scout periods

offense for example looking like
12 OL
9 WR
3 RB
3 QB
3 TE

and another 30 on defense. that is 60 right there. if you then have 4 kids who are your specialist then you are up to 64. That leaves 20 kids to play scout offense and defense each week. Which is literally not enough kids. That doesnt even take into account injuries. There is no way an 85 roster limit is sustainable. D1 schools are throiwng fits about having to work with 105 next year and they have 10x the resources (GA's, analysts) to help out during practices than hamilton or bates does.