It's frustrating to see a lot of people upset at the school for moving down to D3 when really they should be upset at the system D1 athletics has created has made it apparently impossible for small D1 schools like St. Francis to operate under.
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Region 2 football (New York and Pennsylvania-ish) / Re: FB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
March 26, 2025, 06:42:22 PM #2
Region 2 football (New York and Pennsylvania-ish) / Re: FB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
March 25, 2025, 03:15:36 PM
Frank Rossi asked the PAC and says they're keeping their football program and they cannot be eligible for championships in football until the reclassification to d3 is complete in 2029.
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Region 2 football (New York and Pennsylvania-ish) / Re: FB: Presidents' Athletic Conference
March 25, 2025, 12:38:37 PM
St. Francis moving to d3. They will become the PAC's 12th member in 2026.
Students on Athletic Scholarship will still be on scholarhsip through 2027-2028 academic year.
St. Francis will not be eligible for PAC championships or playoffs until 2029.
Per a source who knows a kicker at St. Francis "Almost the entire team is gonna transfer."
Students on Athletic Scholarship will still be on scholarhsip through 2027-2028 academic year.
St. Francis will not be eligible for PAC championships or playoffs until 2029.
Per a source who knows a kicker at St. Francis "Almost the entire team is gonna transfer."
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Region 3 football (South Atlantic-ish) / Re: FB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
March 24, 2025, 05:47:43 PM
Right now these are the options the SCAC has left in the future. Remember that all options below involve no current or future asc schools leaving.
1. convince 2 football-playing schools outside the SCAC to switch all their athletics to the SCAC for 2026 to get the auto bid then.
2. have one school (core or affiliate) join in 2026, have no one else leave, so they can end their "6-team-2-year-waiting-period" in 2027.
3. convince any of its non-football playing members to add football so it can likely start varsity football and get an auto bid in 2027. (Colorado College, Concordia (TX), Dallas, Ozarks or St. Thomas (TX))
1. convince 2 football-playing schools outside the SCAC to switch all their athletics to the SCAC for 2026 to get the auto bid then.
2. have one school (core or affiliate) join in 2026, have no one else leave, so they can end their "6-team-2-year-waiting-period" in 2027.
3. convince any of its non-football playing members to add football so it can likely start varsity football and get an auto bid in 2027. (Colorado College, Concordia (TX), Dallas, Ozarks or St. Thomas (TX))
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Region 3 football (South Atlantic-ish) / Re: FB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
March 24, 2025, 02:57:21 PM
Because lyon is an affiliate. Got it.
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Region 3 football (South Atlantic-ish) / Re: FB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
March 24, 2025, 02:20:33 PMQuote from: Etchglow on March 23, 2025, 06:05:55 PMQuote from: Mavchamp on March 23, 2025, 04:36:38 PMI think affiliates count towards an AQ...... provided I'm reading this article from Pat Coleman correctly
https://www.d3sports.com/notables/2022/01/d3-reduces-aq-requirements
It states that it was 7....but reduced to six schools for the AQ.
"extending automatic qualification status to essentially any group of.....schools offering a sport"
The question is.....
Can the ASC and the SCAC both move forward with six for 2026?
SCAC: Austin College, TLU, Centenary, Lyon, Hendrix
ASC: UMHB, HSU, ETBU, HPU, McMurry, Schriener
Can the SCAC get Trinity or Southwestern to stay instead of moving to the SAA? Can they get someone from the Sooner Conference to come over? Louisiana Christian? Nelson? Maybe Belhaven?
Can the ASC lure more from the SCAC? Will Sul Ross return to D3? Can they get LCU or Nelson? Belhaven?
If I'm reading the 2023-2024 DIII Manual correctly, it appears the SCAC will have to have 6 football members for two years before they get an AQ?
Taken from: NCAA Publications
So how did the Landmark get their auto bid in their first season? By starting with 7?
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Region 3 football (South Atlantic-ish) / Re: FB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
March 23, 2025, 12:08:09 PM
Lyon completed their transition to d3 last fall so they will officially have 6 teams in 25.
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Region 3 football (South Atlantic-ish) / Re: FB: American Southwest Conference
March 21, 2025, 06:36:33 PM
What if the ASC gets a championship game to limit the non-conference schedule?
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Region 3 football (South Atlantic-ish) / Re: FB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
March 21, 2025, 06:33:59 PM
So will the scac have an auto bid with 6 teams this upcoming season?
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Region 3 football (South Atlantic-ish) / Re: FB: American Southwest Conference
March 19, 2025, 07:04:52 PM
If the 2 umac schools joined the scac, then the UMAC would need 2 more members to retain its auto bid, and stealing from the miac wouldn't be viable cause doing so would be a downgrade.
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Region 6 football (Midwest and West-ish) / Re: FB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference
March 18, 2025, 10:39:51 PM
This upcoming season will be telling how well Rindahl is as a leader of a program. New coaches left and right would certainly be an adjustment for the players to get used to.
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Region 3 football (South Atlantic-ish) / Re: FB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
March 18, 2025, 08:17:46 AM
Sorry I meant southwestern.
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Region 3 football (South Atlantic-ish) / Re: FB: Southern Collegiate Athletic Conference
March 18, 2025, 12:40:36 AM
Have to imagine the SCAC commissioner is calling Trinity (Texas) and Texas Lutheran to join in 2026 right about now.
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Region 3 football (South Atlantic-ish) / Re: FB: American Southwest Conference
March 17, 2025, 11:08:33 PM
What if the money was pooled from the baptist 4 equally to invite McMurry and Schreiner?
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Region 3 football (South Atlantic-ish) / Re: FB: American Southwest Conference
March 17, 2025, 08:19:47 PMQuote from: Ron Boerger on March 17, 2025, 08:12:02 PMAs mentioned earlier in the thread, small seven figures were allegedly being offered as an incentive. I have heard from several sources today - both Hogue and D3vbwest as well as others - that the magnitude of the amount was correct. The two schools in question have small endowments - Schreiner around $78M (as of May 2023), McMurry a similar amount (May 2024) - so a million dollars could make a significant difference to those schools.
The source of the funds is unknown. The ASC front office isn't it.
Well then if money rules d3 then I guess membership goes to the highest bidder.