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Quote from: hopefan on February 26, 2025, 06:18:10 AMOld old RPI guy here.... Went to internet and turned on Hobart at Union last night..... GREAT GAME...
It doesn't get any better!!! And the Tanner Tedesco name... yes, I remember trying to keep up with Jim Tedesco...

Jim Tedisco ,Union'72 all time hoops great, and Tanner Tedesco, current Union point guard, are NOT related but it sure is sweet to hear that name once again on the Garnet PA.

BTW Jim Tedisco, who's a New York State Senator, was in the bleachers rooting for the boys Saturday.   

Tedisco played ball?  That's neat - I met him one time when I worked at a local newspaper and he came up for a meet and greet.

Quote from: mhm0417 on February 27, 2025, 08:04:32 PMKuiper

This is an interesting set of new posts on this thread, but to go back to the post that spurred these posts, the practical advice I give kids who are considering playing a sport while pursuing a difficult major is to check if there are a bunch of other people in this major who are currently on the team and ask them if the workload is manageable and how they structure their days to do it.  With engineering, it's one of the reasons it really makes more sense to try to play your sport at a school that is known for engineering.  For example, there are 13 players on the 2024 men's soccer roster at Rochester Institute of Technology who are majoring in a subject that has engineering in the title and there are 11 on the 2024 men's soccer roster at Stevens Institute of Technology listed as majoring in an engineering field.  That's going to affect how a coach/school schedules practices and how much support your going to find on the team from upperclassmen when you need it.

Without naming the school, you make a great point.  This D3 school couldn't have cared less about my kid balancing sports and school. I'd go as far as to say there was zero support.  It's nice to know there are schools that look at this.

The other thing that I think was a factor is the basketball program - both mens and women's - was very weak. 
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Quote from: mhm0417 on February 24, 2025, 10:35:04 AMMy son got a couple offers at D3 schools for basketball.  He accepted one, enrolled and majored in engineering.  He ended up failing out after a semester. The time demands of the sport and the major were too much for him at 18 years old.  I'm sure he's one of many young people that has happened to. His coach told us that most of these kids major in business or sports management so they have easier workloads while they were on the teams.

Excellent article. 

Yep. There are some majors that are just really, really difficult to excel in if you're also a student-athlete. Obviously there are people who can, and do. But many years ago, I worked at USA Today and we did a study on the majors of football players at D1 schools, and there was a lot of clustering around certain majors. You can read the resulting article on a forum post here:

https://forum.iacbg.rs/index.php?/topic/1490-news-college-athletes-studies-guided-toward-major-in-eligibility/

At least D3 athletics is mostly regional, which cuts down on travel. Penn State's basketball team played UCLA on Saturday afternoon and USC on Tuesday night. So you're missing what, at least four days of class?

He's back in a different school - majoring in engineering and doing well and NOT playing ball.  LOL

Turned out for the best.  Good lesson.

My son got a couple offers at D3 schools for basketball.  He accepted one, enrolled and majored in engineering.  He ended up failing out after a semester. The time demands of the sport and the major were too much for him at 18 years old.  I'm sure he's one of many young people that has happened to. His coach told us that most of these kids major in business or sports management so they have easier workloads while they were on the teams. He hated it but said it had been that way for years.  I remember him telling us a story of asking a senior what he wanted to do after college.  He told him with a straight face "the NBA".  Some of these young people go into college with no grasp of reality.

I disagree with the idea of majoring in the sport.  I think you keep it as is and let kids decide for themselves and then face reality when they are 23 and have a degree that is marginal.

Sorry to hear about your families' loss, Stlawus.

Quote from: stlawus on January 15, 2025, 01:38:52 AMI mentioned it in the soccer thread a few months ago but the Canton athletic department is going to have to figure out something quick. Men's hoops are now 0-12 overall through the first two months as a member of the SUNYAC. Even the women's team who had a solid team on paper are underperforming. Canton's vastly improved academic profile over the last several years should allow them to be competitive among SUNYAC peers, but someone is going to have to figure out a solution fast. They've recruited some solid players in years past especially in their NAIA days so I think it's posssible for them to adjust, I just don't know if they will.  Maybe Buff State and Fredonia's recent history might give them a bit of grace but even those teams have gotten a bit better. It's likely going to be the same for spring sports. As an example, though SLU is a top 5/10 lacrosse team they scrimmaged Canton this past fall to the tune of 29-5 and played mostly underclassmen and depth players. The SUNYAC is a pretty good lacrosse league as well, especially with Cortland and Geneseo. Some incredibly talented baseball teams aside from Cortland who are in their own league talent wise.

Canton seems stuck in the cycle of coaching turnover in several sports.  I'm not sure about hockey or lacrosse but in baseball, softball and men's hoops they are constantly looking for new coaches.  That can't be good for a program especially one located in such a remote area.  It's no coincidence that the best men's hoop team in the area also has the longest-tenured coach.

The Canton baseball and softball teams are in the same situation.  There's very little stability.

Agreed.  It's wide open this year.

Going to be many blowouts in conference play this year.

Preseason favorites in SUNYAC are obviously Oswego again.  Their new additions are really solid.  Newcomer Morrisville I'm sure will be very competitive. Plattsburgh and looks good, as does Cortland.

Seems like a very unbalanced conference with the bottom teams very bad.  Canton is new this year and will struggle.  Potsdam has arguably the weakest roster they've had in years, with an average team height of about 6'2". Fredonia is weak as well, although building.
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Quote from: stlawus on October 23, 2024, 06:41:17 PMIt's difficult going from a conference like the NAC to the SUNYAC so there is a grace period, but SUNY Canton has got to figure something out on the recruiting trail this offseason.  Through 8 league games they have been outscored 28-0. 

Beyond that, they don't even get shots on goal. They aren't even remotely competitive.

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Quote from: stlawus on October 23, 2024, 06:41:17 PMIt's difficult going from a conference like the NAC to the SUNYAC so there is a grace period, but SUNY Canton has got to figure something out on the recruiting trail this offseason.  Through 8 league games they have been outscored 28-0. 

I have watched 10 or 15 minutes stretches from week to week to get an idea what they have and its not good on either side of the ball. Morrisville meanwhile has rarely been blown out and has been in most games.

It's not going to improve.  Canton recruits many local kids and Section 7 and 10 are not going to get it done in SUNYAC. It's way above their skill level. I have no idea why Canton thought going to SUNYAC was a good idea. Their girls basketball team is the only team that will be competitive in that conference.

Quote from: stlawus on October 06, 2024, 01:37:05 PMPlattsburgh at least on the men's side has made a lot of strides.  They should be pretty solid this year with the transfers they brought in, they have a very good coach.  Clarkson should be decent as well. But yea, Potsdam is very sad to see especially given their history.  SLU had to leave them off the schedule this season for the first time in history because of the hit they take to their strength of schedule by playing them. 

The usual formula for Canton and Potsdam in a lot of sports was to hit on local talent and bring in JuCos and NYC kids, but that has been an unreliable venture in recent years. 

I'm a Potsdam alum.  I LOVED the 80s.  But jeeze, they had 4,200 students back in 1992 when I was there and they have around 2,300 now. With young people not going into education, their enrollment has been gutted.  Going to be a long season for the them and for Canton.

Quote from: stlawus on October 06, 2024, 01:07:18 PMThey do need to figure something out.  They'll get a mulligan for their first season in the SUNYAC but right now they are hurting.  Weird dichotomy where the school itself has made a lot of strides academically and fits the SUNYAC mold now from that perspective.  I also really worry about their men's basketball in the SUNYAC this year.

Agreed.  Canton is a great school, but struggles on the sports side of things. It's sad to see the area so weak in men's basketball now.  SLU is the only good team in the North Country.  I think it's very hard for Canton, Potsdam and Plattsburgh to find players that want to go to school up here. It seems it anyway.

Quote from: Crossit4fun on October 02, 2024, 07:54:32 PMOswego over Canton 3-0; Canton is struggling in SUNYAC they had ZERO shots in the match Oswego had 26 shots.

Canton has no business in SUNYAC.  They have exactly one competitive team there and that's a very good women's basketball team.  That's it.  Not a strong enough sports school to compete in SUNYAC.