While you guys are at it, take a look at The Matrix and throw in some postseason prognostication.

The 5 teams could be determined by the end of the evening... 

Or how about a little All-Conference predicting!

Happy Monday, MACC Readers!

The 2017-18 Matrix has finally been prepared.  Big games every night around the Commonwealth!

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Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 29, 2016, 11:10:47 PM
I am no longer surprised by 5-seeds winning MAC Commonwealth titles. I call it the "Albright Run."

You sure we can't call it the "Alvernia Run."

Yeah - WAY too tired when I wrote that last night.

I did mean "Alvernia Run." WAY too many A teams in this league and way too little sleep this weekend - rather the last seven months with way too little sleep. LOL

We certainly don't make it easy on anyone with our crosstown rival...then throw Arcadia in the mix and its just a cluster.

Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 29, 2016, 11:10:47 PM
I am no longer surprised by 5-seeds winning MAC Commonwealth titles. I call it the "Albright Run."

You sure we can't call it the "Alvernia Run."

Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 24, 2016, 02:28:46 PM
Jon... we post the regional rankings to all boards where it could be relevant. Yes, there are no regionally ranked teams in the Commonwealth this season, but that hasn't been the case for a number of years. You don't control the content of this board and I do feel it is relevant for anyone who may not be as familiar with the system when talking about any at-large possibilities. Those questions always come up this time of year from all locations even if those chances are none.

I knew I should have put my #sarcasm hashtag in there.  Just adding some levity for the plight of the unranked.  Enjoy some postseason action tonight.

Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 24, 2016, 02:18:57 PM
Final public regional rankings are out: http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/2016/02/24/third-ncaa-regional-ranking/

Please use this board only for posting information that is pertinent to the MAC Commonwealth Conference.

#5 Lycoming 89, @ #4 Stevenson 75 FINAL

Lycoming @ #1 Alvernia Wednesday at 7:00 p.m. in a rematch of last year's semifinal.
#3 Arcadia @ #2 Lebanon Valley in the other semifinal.

Final Saturday, Feb. 27 at higher seed. Time TBA.

Quote from: Mid-Atlantic Fan on February 22, 2016, 01:09:41 PM
First game is today correct? Lycoming traveling to Stevenson. Should be a great first round matchup!

#5 Lycoming @ #4 Stevenson tonight at 7:00.  Here's the Stevenson PREVIEW.

MAC Commonwealth Men's Basketball Championships.

1. Alvernia
2. Lebanon Valley
3. Arcadia
4. Stevenson
5. Lycoming

Lycoming @ Stevenson on Monday.  Winner @ Alvernia on Wednesday at 7 p.m.
Arcadia @ Lebanon Valley on Wednesday.

Championship game Saturday.

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Quote from: Hoops Fan on February 20, 2016, 05:07:53 PM

Lycoming is in either way.  If Arcadia wins tonight, they're #4, if they lose, Widener is the #5.

Not quite, Hoops Fan.  According to tiebreakers if Arcadia wins, Lycoming is #5.  If Arcadia loses, Lycoming is out.

You're right.  I wrote that wrong.  Arcadia is in either way - if they win, Lycoming beat Widener head to head; if they lose, Widener wins the 3-way tie and Arcadia gets the #5 on head-to-head.  I put the wrong name up there.

Now we're good to go.  Anxious feelings in Chester.  And they have to wait 45 minutes since the women's game went OT.

Quote from: Hoops Fan on February 20, 2016, 05:07:53 PM

Lycoming is in either way.  If Arcadia wins tonight, they're #4, if they lose, Widener is the #5.

Not quite, Hoops Fan.  According to tiebreakers if Arcadia wins, Lycoming is #5.  If Arcadia loses, Lycoming is out.

Here's a link to the 2014-15 MATRIX, and here's my understanding of how the 4-way tie at 10-6 was broken.

Lycoming was 13-3 and the #1 seed.

1. Alvernia, Arcadia, Hood, and Stevenson were all 3-3 against the other three teams in the 4-way tie.
2. Stevenson and Hood were 1-1 against Lycoming, while Alvernia and Arcadia were were 0-2.  That qualifies Stevenson and Hood for the next two spots.

1a. Hood and Stevenson split their season series.
2a. Hood and Stevenson were both 1-1 vs Lycoming.  Either Alvernia or Arcadia would be #4, but because their tie can't be broken H2H, that stops the progression through #2.
3a. Point differential (max 15).  Stevenson beat Hood by 8.  Hood beat Stevenson by 3.  Stevenson is #2, Hood #3.

1b. Alvernia and Arcadia split their season series.
2b. Alvernia and Arcadia were both 0-2 vs Lycoming.  Alvernia was 2-0 vs #2 Stevenson, Arcadia was 0-2 vs #2 Stevenson.  Alvernia is #4, Arcadia is #5.

No problem, tweisman5. If head to head (H2H) doesn't break the tie, you compare the tied teams against the #1 team (where Arcadia is always favored--in a 2-way tie--as the only 2-0 team vs Alvernia).  If that doesn't break it, then compare vs #2 and so on.

I don't think this happened anywhere this time around, but this would only consider conference games, so if two conference teams played each other in a regular-season tournament, or just scheduled a non-conference game for fun, that wouldn't count in this tiebreaker.

Quote from: Hoops Fan on February 18, 2016, 08:14:02 AM
The bigger question is if the select or eliminate first in a tie.  For example, in a five way tie, two teams would be 5-3 against the rest, one 4-4, and two 3-5.  Do they put the top teams in automatically and then re-break the tie or do they pull the bottom two out and break the tie between them?  That should also be outlined in the tiebreaker procedures wherever you found them (I tried to locate them and couldn't).  Conferences do it both ways, but it would make a difference in the event of a more than two way tie.

The tiebreakers work to qualify teams (as opposed to eliminate), so in the case mentioned above the two 5-3 teams would be taken out of the 5-way tie and those two would start over with the tiebreakers from head-to-head.  Then the three teams remaining from the original 5-way tie would be in a 3-way tie for the next available spot...

Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 18, 2016, 12:19:05 AM
I know the conference goes to points for and against far sooner than other conferences... it came up last year and surprised me. In fact, I think they go to points BEFORE they go to how teams did against other teams in the conference. Like second or third on the tiebreaking order.

Here's the summary of tie-breaker procedures:

1.  Head-to-Head results between and among the tied teams in Conference games.

2. Tied teams' won-loss records vs. Conference teams in Conference games starting with #1, #2, etc.

3.  Point differential between and among the tied teams with a maximum of 15 points in each game.

4. Tied teams' point differential in conference contests starting with #1, #2, etc. ranked team with a maximum differential of 15 points in each game.