Quote from: WashJeff68 on November 04, 2023, 08:23:52 PM
By the way, watched the W&J game. They dominated, should have no problem with Waynesburg, and be on their way to a Bowl Game. Nice reward for the seniors.

Your QB is good. I spoke to him after the Grove City game and he also seems like a good guy.

Quote from: ExTartanPlayer on October 21, 2023, 11:47:36 PM

Quote from: E.115 on October 21, 2023, 08:36:00 PM
Bravo to CMU vs W&J first half ... 32-7 halftime lead

Well. I enjoyed that.

CMU came out flying on both sides of the ball and W&J just seemed a little flat footed for the first 30 minutes. Main thing CMU did schematically was come up with some wrinkles using RB Will Bouma in some wildcat formations and with some play calls (the fake bubble screen / QB draw) they hadn't used to date. Those caught W&J unprepared and led to several big plays. CMU got the early turnovers and big plays and was able to coast home after getting the big halftime lead. Great game for the Tartans. Amazing that CMU has now won four straight in that series.

That's quite impressive, given W&J is a tough game regardless. Now, I'm the biggest Grover CMU fan there is.  The Academic Bowl probably will determine who finishes second. Worse is that you get an ECAC bowl game which are a nice consolation prize. The PAC usually gets 2-3 teams in bowls.

Quote from: ExTartanPlayer on October 16, 2023, 11:12:31 AM

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Quote from: jam40jeff on October 14, 2023, 06:59:31 PM
A lot of football left to play, but I haven't seen anything to indicate that CWRU isn't in the group with GCC, W&J, and CMU right now.  Also, I think Westminster might be in the lower group of PAC teams now.  It seems like there's the big 4 and then the rest, and there's quite a gap in between.

Bit nervous to make this proclamation since CMU has yet to play Westminster, and last year Westminster gave CMU an absolute fit (CMU could not move the ball at all and won 10-0 despite being outgained 212-105 on a rainy night thanks to a pick-six that stood up as the only touchdown of the game).  But...yes, Westminster's first three results against the others in the "top 5" seem to suggest that they're running fifth out of that group this year.  I still think Westminster stands pretty clearly above the jumble below, although Allegheny maybe will have something to say this week.

As for that top echelon...CMU gets to play everyone the rest of the way so they'll sort themselves out over the next month.  I do agree that CWRU is, as of this writing, clearly in that top group.  Three-point loss to Grove City and the decisive win over Westminster definitely puts them in that top 4 for now.  Barring a surprise, Grove City is walking away with the belt for this year, but one-score wins over CWRU, CMU, and W&J suggests to me that all 4 are pretty close to one another and probably classify as a grouped "Tier 1" for this PAC season wth Westminster hanging out below them but above everyone else.

Just to add a note to this, GCC beat Case in Cleveland for the first time ever. I was concerned after running the gauntlet of Case, CMU & W&J in successive weeks that they would let down against Geneva and didn't. They didn't against the Gators, either.
The Wolverines remaining opponents have a combined record of 4-15. If they take care of business, they're PAC champs. Now, will they get a home playoff game remains to be seen. I kinda hope so.

Welcome GCC Alumnus!  Glad to have another school represented here.  Despite what Pat & Greg needle themselves/us for still having a forum with "2005 technology" - LONG LIVE D3BOARDS!

Absolutely agree that the right attitude for GCC to have is exactly what you said: take care of business.  Don't take anyone lightly.  We on the boards have the luxury of speaking a bit more frankly and less in coach-speak

I think a 10-0 GCC team will have a pretty good chance to host...the closed schedule basically guarantees middle-of-the-pack SOS and (probably) a 1-0 record against regionally ranked opponents.  The lack of OOC opponents unfortunately limits any ability for the PAC to enhance that resume.  I'd love for Pat, Greg, and any other longtime D3 Playoff Geeks to chime in...but if you were GCC, I presume you've gotta be rooting for one of (CMU, W&J, CWRU) to run the table against the others and finish 9-1 which (probably...though not 100% certain) gets you the best chance at a "regionally ranked" win?  Maybe if you get a clean 10-0 / 9-1 / 8-2 / 7-3 at the top you could even get lucky with the (second place) 9-1 ranked and the (third place) 8-2 squeezing in at the very bottom of the final RR's.  You definitely don't want any of the (CMU, W&J, CWRU) group to lose to anyone else - eg you definitely want CMU to beat Westminster to make sure the "best wins" they have are against teams with the best possible records.  A funny quirk of the closed system.  And I think you're better off with the clean 9-1, 8-2, 7-3 vs. any combination of these teams beating each other (three 8-2's among those three could mean that none of them end up in the final RR's).

When your SOS is a guaranteed .500, the only path you have to better criteria on paper seems to be more teams regionally ranked, so you don't benefit from any upsets of team #2 or #3 in your conference.  Need them to finish with the best records you can so a couple of them eke into the final RR's.

Thanks for the welcome! Sorry about the coach speak; I'm enjoying the ride. I was worried about Geneva as we just ploughed through the Big 3 and a possible letdown.

W&J and CMU hook it up this week. Then W&J takes on Case next week and then there's the Academic Bowl between Case & CMU on 11/11. CMU is 6-1 and the other two are 5-1; with the round robin, things could get muddled as you could get a couple of 2 loss team. I'm assuming that wouldn't work in our favor.

I'm honest when I say I'm going to be very happy just making the playoffs.  A home game would put me over the moon. To see where we came from (losing 30 straight games) to now (4 ECAC bowl wins and possible PAC title) has been awesome to see.

What would you rate the odds of a home GCC playoff game to be? And who would be a likely opponent?

Quote from: ExTartanPlayer on October 16, 2023, 09:56:19 AM

Quote from: jam40jeff on October 14, 2023, 06:59:31 PM
A lot of football left to play, but I haven't seen anything to indicate that CWRU isn't in the group with GCC, W&J, and CMU right now.  Also, I think Westminster might be in the lower group of PAC teams now.  It seems like there's the big 4 and then the rest, and there's quite a gap in between.

Bit nervous to make this proclamation since CMU has yet to play Westminster, and last year Westminster gave CMU an absolute fit (CMU could not move the ball at all and won 10-0 despite being outgained 212-105 on a rainy night thanks to a pick-six that stood up as the only touchdown of the game).  But...yes, Westminster's first three results against the others in the "top 5" seem to suggest that they're running fifth out of that group this year.  I still think Westminster stands pretty clearly above the jumble below, although Allegheny maybe will have something to say this week.

As for that top echelon...CMU gets to play everyone the rest of the way so they'll sort themselves out over the next month.  I do agree that CWRU is, as of this writing, clearly in that top group.  Three-point loss to Grove City and the decisive win over Westminster definitely puts them in that top 4 for now.  Barring a surprise, Grove City is walking away with the belt for this year, but one-score wins over CWRU, CMU, and W&J suggests to me that all 4 are pretty close to one another and probably classify as a grouped "Tier 1" for this PAC season wth Westminster hanging out below them but above everyone else.

Just to add a note to this, GCC beat Case in Cleveland for the first time ever. I was concerned after running the gauntlet of Case, CMU & W&J in successive weeks that they would let down against Geneva and didn't. They didn't against the Gators, either.
The Wolverines remaining opponents have a combined record of 4-15. If they take care of business, they're PAC champs. Now, will they get a home playoff game remains to be seen. I kinda hope so.