I don't have enough confirmation to do any real reporting, but I'm fairly certain there have been a few instances in D3 where an NIL collective has come up with several thousand dollars to match a financial aid package offered at another school to keep a star player.

Most of the NIL deals are gift cards and hoodies, for sure - but there is money available when teams need it - and players don't get that unless they've got leverage.



I do think there will have to be some regulation at some point.  I think you're going to see a model that looks like international soccer.  Players can sign contracts with schools, but with release clauses that other schools can pay to steal them away.  You'll also likely have one or two windows a year where players can switch teams.

It'll be less of a thing in D3, because the money is so much less and players can switch teams between semesters already anyway.

They're waiting for the lawsuits to work themselves out, so they know what can be mandated, in terms of eligibility, etc.  In the end, I think D3 will largely be shielded - so long as there's a division with no rules, we'll be able to get by with what has always been the traditional d3 way of working (or something pretty close to it).

You're also going to have a bunch of guys in the portal because they went to JUCO and have D1 eligibility.  I think Ty-Rell Monroe is in that boat.  He can't play at d3 anymore, but if he can get a D1 offer, he can keep playing.

NIL does exist in D3, too.  It's been on the down low and hard to get info on, but the only way to really know what you're worth is to take offers and have conversations.  Even if you stay with the school you're at, it gives you leverage to negotiate something better.

A lot of the d3 guys in the portal are getting diplomas this spring and want to know what their grad school options looks like.

It's just the way things will work from now on.  Maybe better to focus on the thousands and thousands of players perfectly content with their school and situation who sit this process out.

Keystone got a reprieve on February 27th.  New financial information changed the suspension and rendered the appeal moot.  They're all good for the moment, I believe.

https://www.msche.org/institution/0513/

That's not to say they won't be closing this summer, but it's not being forced by the accrediting agency right now.

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Quote from: Gregory Sager on February 25, 2025, 02:21:31 PMIn short, if it was possible in the past to study pre-med or engineering and still play a sport, and that's now impossible in spite of the fact that the school's academic demands haven't changed, then there is a problem with that sport from an academic (i.e., the paramount objective of being a college student) point of view.

I disagree with the idea that seems to be getting floated here, namely "If every single major a school offers isn't possible for all student-athlete then it proves that the school's emphasis on that sport reflects a fundamental problem that must be fixed."

That's not what I said, though. I've already stated that some majors (e.g., music) are historically incompatible with athletic participation because of time management and resource inflexibility.

Quote from: IC798891 on February 25, 2025, 03:52:21 PM2, Certain majors may be largely incompatible with other time-intensive activities, such as athletics, but that is not, in and of itself, indicative of misguided athletic-centric priorities by the institution.

I guess that we have to agree to disagree, then, because where there's one major that all of a sudden becomes a no-go due to a coach-mandated increased demand upon a student-athlete's time, there's more. Next thing you know, you've got a team filled with business majors and communications majors because the student-athletes ran out of viable options for balancing schoolwork and athletics (and because they're steered into those choices by the coaches and by their older teammates).

This is just slippery slope crap.

If you can't see the difference between someone pointing out that being pre-med may be difficult to pull off because and "The entire team is all business majors because what else could they possibly study?" then you're not discussing the problem in good faith.

If I wanted to engage in such bad faith arguments, I could point out that Myron Rolle completed his pre-med requirements in 2.5 years, earning a Rhodes scholarship in the process, while playing All-American football for Florida State, so prove to me that a backup D3 shortstop not wanting to major in engineering comes down to coach pressure, rather than a personal skill issue with regard to studying inefficiently.

I resent your insinuations. I don't see why I have to defend my integrity to you. If you can't discuss this politely without impugning my honesty, then this conversation is over.

You're unwilling to engage in good-faith discussions, you deserve every bit of criticism.

Go spew your false equivalency of the workloads of pre-med majors and business/comms majors to someone who might be naive enough to be fooled by it.

I'm just going to post this again.  What you're talking about are potential problems at certain institutions, but are in no way structural issues for Division III.  I don't think anyone will argue that some schools make it difficult to major in certain things because of athletics, but that can't be transferred across institutions.

1) There's no major incompatible with athletics at the D3 level, IF both the professors and the coaches are willing to be flexible.

2) You can't use a one off example for any general argument.  Because one person does something does not mean everyone can do it.

3) This is only an issue if a student changes course during their college experience, otherwise it was a failure of communication during the recruitment process.

The New Church isn't huge, but they have a theological school and a K-12 school on adjacent property that share athletic facilities (I think) - there are probably ways to keep things moving for a while with that kind of feeder.

Anyone can see the whole thing any time they want:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1K1zZi4KpHclVH4HwMovjt73df9nTJeEL/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=104084392362677817686&rtpof=true&sd=true

Metcalf-Grassman, Oshkosh
Lash, NWU
Butler, UWSP
Moorer, VWU
Tucker, Trine
Renta, UWEC
Rodl, Brandeis
Plesser, Union
Tedesco, Union
Garside, Union
Farrington, UMU
Casenhiser, UMU
Dopirak, MSOE
Behil, Whitworth
Jackson, JHU
Mulvey, Babson
O'Toole, Babson
Brown, Monmouth
Plotner, W&J
Hammond, Amherst

Vetter - Trinity (CT)
Okorougo - Trinity (CT)
Berry - Trinity (CT)
Lash - NWU
Deroursseau - UWL
Greiger - UWL
Paider - UWL
Knight - Emory
Pearce - Emory
Pulley - RMC
Robinson - RMC
Overway - Calvin
Chichone - JCU
Johnson - Carthage
Johnson - Carthage
May - WashU
Matthews-Spratley - Stockton
Ferguson - Redlands
Gordon - Redlands
Rohosy - CMS

Wesleyan
Trinity (CT)
Emory
La Crosse
Randolph-Macon
Tufts
IWU
CNU
Stockton
Mary Washington
St. Joe's (ME)
Redlands
Carthage
F&M
Calvin
Mount Union
VWU
CMS
WashU
NWU

Oshkosh
Stevens Point
NWU
VWU
Whitworth
Trine
JHU
Eau Claire
Babson
W&J
Amherst
Brandeis
Mount Union
Endicott
Rowan
Monmouth
MSOE
Union
Hope
Trinity (TX)

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Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 24, 2025, 10:19:04 AMWe're told it will be Thursday - Saturday for the rounds of 8 and 4 in Fort Wayne (March 19 and 21).  The final will be played two weeks later in Indianapolis on the day between the D1 semis and final, along with the D2 final.  That will be April 5th, Easter Sunday!

So the 2 final teams are going to be off for 2 weeks before they play the final? That is just plain stupid! NCAA at its best. This is just another of many reasons why the ncaa won't be around in another 10 years.

This happened when Amherst won in 2013 and was scheduled to happen in 2020 before the tournament shut down.  It's been done with the women's tournament as well.  I share many of your concerns, but so far, every team that's done it has really, really enjoyed the experience.  They get most of the same treatment at the D1 teams and it's a very special memory.  They don't do it too often, maybe once every 7 or 8 years.

Quote from: Greek Tragedy on March 24, 2025, 10:51:11 AMWith 2 games on Saturday, will the all-star game be moved to Friday or earlier Saturday?

We've been told it's still Saturday, which makes sense; the venue is not going to bring in gameday staff just for the all star game.

We're told it will be Thursday - Saturday for the rounds of 8 and 4 in Fort Wayne (March 19 and 21).  The final will be played two weeks later in Indianapolis on the day between the D1 semis and final, along with the D2 final.  That will be April 5th, Easter Sunday!

Morgan is on the second team.

Vetter and Okorougo play different positions.

Quote from: BaboNation on March 22, 2025, 11:36:53 AMUnforced error by the NCAA scheduling both men's and women's finals on the same day and hour.
Maybe it's a 1st world problem for NYU, having both teams make it this far, but really an unnecessary set of circumstances.

We've brought this up with the production staff.  It should not happen again.