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#1
https://hsuathletics.com/news/2025/3/5/cowboys-announce-2025-football-schedule.aspx

HSU dropped next years schedule. Flying to California to face chapman in the opener. Props for booking another cross country flight, but would love to see other playoff caliber teams instead of Nelson and LCU, but gotta do what you gotta do to get 10 games.

Curious what other ASC teams come up with for non conference games, would prefer to avoid the prep school scrimmages like last year, but again, can only play who agrees to schedule you.
#2
Quote from: TheChucker on November 17, 2024, 07:54:15 PM
Quote from: crufootball on November 17, 2024, 04:03:58 PM
Quote from: Crubill on November 17, 2024, 08:22:30 AMIf UMHB truly reached out to everyone to schedule a game and only 1 team accepted, nobody has room to complain. Any bubble team that thinks they have a better team than UMHB was given an invite to prove it on the field.

If we are lying about that and in any intentionally way ended up with UWW, NAIA Bethel and 2 uncountable games then Larry Harmon and Randy Mann were smoking the real good stuff that day haha

This narrative that we didn't play enough games is laughable to me, like our schedule was so much better when instead of beating HPU twice we played HPU and insert former ASC member. Nothing we have done this year or last has shown that we have fallen so far that we would have lost multiple times in the old ASC. In fact this year in the old ASC we probably would have been 9-1 and easily in the playoffs. 

Just for kicks and grins comparison, Bethel also made it in by losing twice to a top team in St. John's, beating 5 total creampuffs, and beating 3 mediocre teams. UMHB arguably has three equivalent or better wins (UWW and ETBU X 2) than Bethel's best win vs Concordia Moorhead. UMHB belongs in the playoffs if teams like Bethel belong.

Yes, Bethel is the best comparison to UMHB's current situation. The only way to poke hole in UMHB playoff worthiness is to examine if their wins were good enough, not their losses. 
#3
Quote from: Crubacker on October 30, 2024, 12:05:46 PMUMHB still has a chance to win the automatic bid as well, the tiebreaker rules are listed DCTF.  Max points, kinda like positive points in Texas High School football for district games is 21 for ASC games.  HSU has a 2 point edge there as they beat ETBU by 16 and UMHB won by 14.  So, UMHB has to beat ETBU by more than they did last time and beat HSU by at least 21 points in order to have a chance to win the automatic bid......and of course win out.

just to confirm, is aggregate score across all conference games, or just between the 2 teams that are tied?
#4
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 29, 2024, 03:02:23 PM
Quote from: ASCleatus on October 29, 2024, 03:00:22 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on October 28, 2024, 02:45:35 PMLogan Hanson tweeted today that if TLU wins out they have a 99.1% chance of being selected.

TLU playoff berth most likely has them traveling to the ASC champs right? Would renew old matchups and give TLU a chance to make a huge statement.

An unbeaten ASC champ probably gets a first-round bye. Not sure where TLU would seed out.

Forgot about first round byes this year. Assuming it is HSU thats one way to get past round 1.
#5
Quote from: Ron Boerger on October 28, 2024, 02:45:35 PMLogan Hanson tweeted today that if TLU wins out they have a 99.1% chance of being selected.

TLU playoff berth most likely has them traveling to the ASC champs right? Would renew old matchups and give TLU a chance to make a huge statement.
#6
Having coaches that know how to use a p
QuoteCan't agree with this more. I mean, a 1A school (six-man football) with 100 students had a kid being recruited by numerous FBS schools last season (Grayson Rigdon). Texas HS Football has so much talent and HS programs are incredibly important in those small communities. Not sure how it works in other states, but in Texas, there are alway D1 caliber players at the 2A and 3A levels.

I have 2 grandsons who played football in other states.

One in Colorado was 6'2" and ran a sub 12 100Meters. He was tall and lanky but had wrestled in lower grades and always been a blocker in PeeWee leagues. In a high school of 1300 students, he was captain of the JV team as a junior and scored 54 points many on crossing patterns behind the LB's and then outran the DB's. The handwriting was on the wall and he did not return for his senior season. Most of his HS coaches were part-time. I believe he would have had a better experience in Texas. They did not know how to use him.

The other played in 4A in Alabama. The coaching was a little better, but not as good as I remember when I played or what I have seen contemporaneously in Texas. He was a running back with 11.3 sec speed in the 100M. He suffered injuries in 3 of his 4 seasons on the varsity in High School.

The UIL (and TMEA) are an incredibly valuable organizations for interscholastic activities.

(As for those HS bands, those high school bands were ...  well. let's say our Texas high school bands are outstanding. IMHO, when the athletic coaches and the band director are on the same page, they have control of the high school, and great things usually happen.)

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Having good coaches who know how to use a player correctly and develop them is crucial. After that, marketing is key. The smaller level school you play the harder it is to get your name out. If a small school player isn't a multiyear starter for a team that makes deep playoff runs they probably wont get recruited or noticed.

Several small school athletes have to reach out to schools and beg for a chance vs the schools finding them.
#7
Quote from: Ralph Turner on September 27, 2024, 10:33:37 AM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on September 26, 2024, 09:32:07 PMPretty quiet week in the SAA so good time to note that incoming Trinity QB Welker Horn was named the Private School recipient of the Built Ford Tough TXHSFB Player of the Week award after going 20 of 29 passing for 378 yards and five touchdowns in a 36-34 win over Wellington, their first loss, last Friday.  Wellington was ranked 8th in Texas' UIL 2A Division II prior to the loss. 

Welker also carried the ball 21 times for 74 yards.
Wellington HS reports a student body of 162.5 students to the UIL. That gives you an idea of the size of the competition in Classification 2A Division II. 20 of 29 accuracy is pretty good, tho'.

I played in class 2a, it was 1A back then before 6A existed and 6 man was a different classification system, but several district opponents became my teammates at an ASC school with others going to midwestern st, tarleton, West texas A&M, and a couple went D1.

Played against LJ Collier (TCU-1st rd pick by seahawks) and James Washington (Ok st -drafted Rd 2 by steelers)

There is some talent in the smaller classifications in Texas.