Quote from: Raider 68 on December 05, 2021, 09:24:31 AM

Quote from: archgemini24 on December 04, 2021, 11:50:53 PM
Yeah, this is a bad job out of the NCAA. If would ask if there were any COVID-related protocols that would keep NCC from hosting, but if that would have been the case the Cardinals would have been forced on the road, anyway.

I also agree with everyone else saying NCC won't need this for extra motivation. It's a semi-final among the path to repeating. I cannot imagine a team needs any more motivation than that.

While everyone thought the Raiders would go to North Central if they won the region, there must have been a good reason
for the NCAA to have Mount host. In terms of motivation, it really won't matter for any of these  4 teams. They all want
to win regardless of where the game is held.

The bolded sentence is based on bad logic.  "Since the NCAA refuses to pay players while showing annual revenue north of $10B, there must be a good reason for it" is the same logical argument. 

The reason is simple.  The NCAA, ESPN, the city of Canton, and the pro football HOF don't want a 90% empty stadium in a couple weeks. 

I'll now return to my cave.

Longtime JCU SID Chris Wenzler passed away Tuesday after a 2+ battle with cancer.  Those who had the opportunity to know Chris will agree that he was a good man and a mentor to so many students at JCU that it would be impossible to calculate the number of lives he touched.

Edit- it was Tuesday, not today. Autocorrect.

Quote from: desertraider on December 16, 2018, 11:57:41 AM
I know how they will pay it. They are going to cut academic budgets.  They did that in the 80s and early 90s when Faust was HC. He only would fly first class, top hotels and all the perks when on recruiting trips. Normally blew threw recruiting budget for the year in 3 months (seriously). So the academic depts got the short end and had to make cuts. Ask any dept chair from that period about trying to trim 15 to 20% from an a budget that was 60% of what they needed.

The school is already facing a $16 million budget shortfall next year (which is an improvement over years past, scary to say).  They have a huge problem. 

Read the quotes from their AD.  He's talking about "creative ways" to pay the buyout and the remainder on Bowden's contract.  They've floated the idea of offering a game at Infocision Stadium between UT-C and Akron...but I don't see how that helps UT-C in the least.  "Come play at our huge, empty stadium, and we'll call that debt even."  Seems delusional to me.

I don't mean to harp on the Akron situation, but when I said "cash strapped" I meant it.  UA has to pay $385k to buyout Arth from UT-C.  As of right now, they don't know how they're going to pay it.

I just don't know that that's a winning situation.  I hope I'm wrong.

Quote from: Dr. Acula on December 14, 2018, 05:55:11 PM
Tom Arth is headed to Akron.  Godspeed.

Best of luck to Coach Arth.  I say this as a Kent State fan since I was a kid, so I'm admitting my bias...but if I were choosing my next destination, I wouldn't pick a cash strapped university with enormous expectations because they spent way too much on a stadium that their alumni and community would never be able to fill or support.

I remember when that stadium was first built (almost 10 years ago!) there was a media member who told me (paraphrasing) "It's only a matter of time now before Akron gets every top end MAC recruit.  Everyone else needs to catch up or Akron will dominate for years." 

Since that time Akron has gone 37-74 with one winning season, two bowl appearances, one bowl win, one finish better than 3rd in their division, one in stadium suicide, and zero MAC titles. 

It cost them $61 million to build that stadium.

Quote from: Onward on, John Carroll on September 21, 2018, 09:22:52 AM

Quote from: MUC57 on September 20, 2018, 12:22:30 PM

JCUStreaks70

Meant to ask you. Since bluestreak66 is supposedly your brother, what relationship is "onward on, John Carroll"? Another brother, maybe? Or, how about a cousin? Are all you guys from JCU related? Just curious. ☠🏈

Ha.  Yep, we are all brothers.  Toph is actually my nephew. My brother, bluestreak66, knocked up a girl from Notre Dame College after a wild night on Lee Road.  Nine months later, we welcomed Toph.

Does this make 4u grandpa?

Quote from: JCUStreaks70 on February 06, 2018, 01:11:24 PM

Quote from: theaprof on February 06, 2018, 12:32:49 PM
We have a player on Mount Union's basketball team this year named John Carroll--he even spells it the same as the school.

He went to the wrong school...

Back when I was in school (2002-06) there was a basketball player at Baldwin Wallace named John Carroll. 

Quote from: merlecanlas on February 05, 2018, 01:00:18 PM

Quote from: Dr. Acula on February 05, 2018, 11:02:37 AM
Had he gone to Mount the first time he heard something like "your actions reflect on me" he'd be rolling his eyes thinking "Damn, I shoulda went to JCU."  College kids need a little freedom to act like college kids.  He made the right choice.

that'd be a first, especially if it happened between Aug - Dec

Yeah, I mean...who on earth would choose a Division III school for any reason other than how good the football team is?

Quote from: Raider 68 on December 21, 2017, 09:48:56 PM

Quote from: Jack Parkman on December 21, 2017, 08:36:15 PM
I know very little about UMU other than their amazing success, but I am curious what is is about LK and VK that have made them so damn good?  Any insight?

Jack Parkman,

There are so many factors that many people can list as to the success of the program under Coach L. Kehres and Coach V. Kehres. Here is just a few:

- Set the goal each year of winning the conference and making the playoffs

- Recruiting the best talent across the country.

- Building the team based upon the talent you have versus requiring players to fit into a system

- Studying in depth the competition and assessing with great accuracy a game plan for success

- Recruiting those players who are very intelligent and want to obtain their degrees in four years

- Having stability of a great coaching staff blending new talented coaches with seasoned veterans

- Confidence in making in-game successful adjustments and always respecting your oponents

- Preparation is a top priority

The success of program attracts the talent and the 15 week season allows younger players more time
to develop and make a contribution. Graduation becomes the "next man up" approach and all this plus
more over the last 25 plus years.

Humility.  Look at everything Larry Kehres has ever written or said.  Very little, if anything, is ever about him.  He credits his players, his staff, his mentors.  That kind of attitude permeates an organization, whether it's a football team or an office staff.  It's admirable.

I heard a story years ago that every week LK would start film session by showing the best capabilities of whatever team they happened to be playing, whether it was a team actually looking at a shot at an OAC title or 0-8 Heidelberg.  And the message behind that was always the same: if you don't play every down to the best of your ability this team (even 0-8 Heidelberg) will beat you.

Everyone says these sort of things, very few get the team to buy in.

Quote from: skunks_sidekick on December 19, 2017, 07:46:46 PM


Pat...you really don't want to piss off the preimenent defense attorney in Stark County.

This might be the funniest threat in the history of threats.  Oooh...the preeminent (fixed that for you) defense attorney in mighty, mighty, Stark County.  Better watch out, Pat.  Next time you're coming through Alliance and you get a parking ticket, the preeminent defense attorney in Stark County won't come to your aid.

Although, I'd wager to guess that if Pat had a court ordered appearance...he'd show up for it.

GOODNIGHT, EVERYBODY!

Quote from: wally_wabash on December 14, 2017, 11:53:02 AM

Quote from: section13raiderfan on December 14, 2017, 11:50:16 AM
Kent State had a coach named Dean Pees. He had little success turning that team into a winner and he knew his stuff.  Kent let him go. Then the man volunteered to be an unpaid coach for Larry Kehres. Larry accepted. I dont care if Bill Belichek  coached KSU, there is no expectation of a winning season there amongst ANYBODY. Vince Kehres being interested in that job would be motivated by the paycheck only. And then he would get exactly what he deserved for going that route. Dean Pees is an   NFL coach now, he knew the game when he coached at KSU. It was a stepping stone to a better job when he took it. it still is.  Best to realize that when you throw your hat into that ring.

Bottomless wealth?  Tough consequences for sure.

I say again...how much do you guys think Kent State pays?  Their last coach got $1.9 million over the life of his contract.  That's a lot of money, I am not suggesting it isn't.  But that's hardly bottomless.  In fact...one could hit bottom pretty quickly.

EDIT: re: Pees - again...actual Kent State fan here.  Dean Pees is a nice guy by all accounts, and a smart football guy.  He's also not a head coach.  Like many folks before him, making the jump from coordinator to head coach proved that he's not a head coach.

Quote from: gizzmo13 on December 14, 2017, 10:09:37 AM
Vince is in a great situation now tho. I duno Kent is just a carrer killer lately. If he would ever leave itd be nice to see him go to somewhere a little more stable. Kents been the worst program in country (arguably)for years and years , but if he were to have success there he'd be a hot name on the coaching market.. Darrell Hazel had a nice little run a while back and got him a big time job (Purdue). Although he didn't do so well there, he still got paid.

Darrell Hazell, the guy before Haynes, coached them to one win away from the Orange Bowl and parlayed it into a $6.6 million contract with Purdue 5 years ago.  There's been one coach since then.  Not exactly a "career killer lately."  They have been an awful program, no argument.  But the fact that Paul Haynes couldn't win more than four games with a program that was a few plays short of a MAC championship and an Orange Bowl appearance has at least as much to do with Haynes as the program. 

My point was more that VK may not be the coach for a rebuild and there's not a lot of evidence of him winning with inferior talent...or even equal talent.  I'm not trying to take anything away from what he has accomplished, I'm just telling you what my eyes see.

Quote from: purple on December 13, 2017, 06:59:22 PM
I , for one, hope Vince gets offered the job. In one swoop he can retire his mortgage, provide for his children's education and secure his retirement. Not many have a chance to do all that with one signature. In a world where muscle reigns and the only real insurance is cash, he should try for it.

How much do you think Kent State pays?  Paul Haynes' total contract was $1.9 million.  He won't be able to do all those things (pay for kids' school, pay off his house, and retire) on that kind of money without continuing to work.  Though I'm not sure his kids would have to pay if they chose to go to Mount Union.  For two kids, the tuition bills alone will be probably upwards of a quarter million dollars or more in total by the time his kids reach college age.

Quote from: WRMUalum13 on December 13, 2017, 06:06:17 PM

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Quote from: wm4 on December 13, 2017, 05:49:45 PM
Sorry if already mentioned, but I came across this article on the Kent State head coaching search (which has been a very strange one, btw). 

<<There has been some chatter about Mount Union head coach Vince Kehres being a candidate once his season is complete. The Purple Raiders will play for their 13th national championship against Mary Hardin-Baylor on Friday night. At this time we're told there has not been contact (which is surprising given the number of coaches who have been contacted) but we also hear that Kehres would listen if contacted after the season.>>

Full article on the search here

http://footballscoop.com/news/update-kent-state/

Beat you by one minute. 😉

Yikes the fact it said "he would listen" is a bit worrying to me.

This comes from a JCU grad who has an older brother that graduated from Mount, has been to the Stagg Bowl to watch Mount Union probably 8 or more times, and has nothing but respect for the Mount program and the Kehres family. 

As a Kent State fan (yes, really), I don't know that I want Vince Kehres.  I'm sure I'll get crushed for this, but I would've rather had Matt Campbell or Jason Candle when they were coaching names coming from Mount Union (Toledo got them both).

Here's my logic.  Vince learned from maybe the greatest college football coach of all time, I grant you that.  He also walked into a program that was already competing for a national title every year and can recruit guys just by showing them a jersey and saying "This is the number you'll wear when we win a national championship."  But how many wins does he have when he isn't better at every position or almost every position on the field?  And how many losses does he have when the teams are close to evenly matched?  Kent State is Wilmington, if you want to make an OAC reference.  One guy (Darrell Hazel) has had success there in the last 35 years.  It's a huge challenge. 

After JCU beat Mount last year a Mount fan texted me:  Tom Arth has always been a better in game coach than Vince.  Now he's got the players to match.

Larger enrollment than some D1 programs and can't get 2,000 people to show up to the national semifinal.