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#1
Both Mark and Sager are right.  Ron Ellett started the football program at Hampshire High School in 1964 and compiled a 143-57 record in 20 seasons. He had a 9-2 record at Elgin High School in 1984. He coached at Jacobs in Algonquin the following year where he had a 5-4 record. 

He was never an assistant at North Park.  He became North Park's head coach in 1986 and had a 0-9 record
#2
There was an article in the Omaha paper a week ago about the Midland program describing how the coach (a former assistant at Nebraska) turned the program around a year ago and how he expected the team to be much better this year.  He stated the size of the team increased from about 90 players last year to 160 this year. (They had about 50-60 players during the North Park game that were not suited up but were dressed in shorts on the sideline--this was their JV team). 

After reading this article I was concerned about the game.  As Mark stated Midland dominated last year  and I was afraid it would dominate again this year. 

I went to the game and was very impressed with North Park. North Park outplayed Midland for the first three quarters. Their defense shut down Midland for most of the game, despite the fact Midland had some big players on the offensive line.  Unfortunately a fake punt that resulted in a first down was a turning point in the game as Midland went on to score, gained momentum and eventually won the game.

One of the parents told me the North Park team bus broke down on the way to Fremont and they were stalled on the side of the road for 5 hours---I am sure that did not help.
#3
Why did Carroll leave their conference and why did the CCIW accept Carroll?

For a number of years there was a difference in recruiting between the CCIW and the Midwest Conference.  Schools in the Midwest Conference were more restricted in terms of contacting potential players.  Is that still true?  If it is perhaps Carroll felt this handicapped their recruiting.
#4
Quote from: Gregory Sager on July 15, 2015, 11:31:10 AM
He had a decent career coaching the Mavericks -- 284-189 (.600) over 17 seasons -- but he never got anywhere near the heights that he achieved at North Park. He was perennially frustrated in his attempts to win the old Northern Sun Intercollegiate Conference, which Minnesota-Duluth and Northern State absolutely locked down during the '80s and '90s; McCarrell's teams finished 3rd in the NSIC six times and 4th four times.

Mankato was actually a member of the North Central Conference during that time.  The North Central was one of the strongest Division II conferences at that time but folded in 2008 after five of its schools moved up to Division I: Northern Colorado left in 2003, North Dakota State and South Dakota State left in 2004 and North Dakota and South Dakota left in 2008. Four of its remaining members (Augustana, Mankato, St Cloud and Minnesota-Duluth) joined the Northern Sun Conference at that time.  Ironically for Minnesota-Duluth it was a return to the Northern Sun as they left that conference to join the stronger North Central Conference just four years earlier as a replacement for North Dakota State and South Dakota State.   
#5
Quote from: veterancciwfan on July 15, 2015, 01:10:32 AM
Since this is summer and news is slow, a little history lesson on the NAIA. All IL schools (except the U. of IL, Bradley, Loyola, DePaul & Northwestern) were in District 20 of the NAIA with the district champion headed to the national 32 team NAIA tournament in KC, MO. The Dist. 20 playoffs involved a minimum of 4 teams and sometimes 6. But to show how strong the NAIA was prior to 1963, Eastern Illinois, Western Illinois, Illinois State and Southern Illinois were typically the District 20 team in the national tournament in KC. So the CCIW schools were competing against some stiff competition. That changed after the 1962/63 season as the Illinois state schools left the NAIA and joined the College Division of the NCAA, which Wheaton won in either 1956 or 1957.

Wheaton won the first NCAA College Division Tournament in 1957. 

Illinois was not unique. Prior to the formation of the College Division many colleges across the country were members of the NAIA. After the College Division was formed many schools held dual membership in both the NAIA and NCAA College Division, including some schools in the CCIW.  When North Park won the CCIW championship in 1968-69 they were invited to both the NCAA College Division and NAIA tournaments. 
#6
Check out the brutal missed shot clock violation call at the end of the NYU @ Wash U women's game...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEgn-L8MKZQ&feature=youtu.be


What a tough way to lose a game!

Wow, there is just no excuse for missing that.

That's the worst blown call I've seen in years.


Actually, I think it was the right call.  Check the scoreboard in the background when the player shoots the ball from outside---there were more than three second left on the clock when she shoots and the red light on the backboard lights up (but the horn does not sound) when the ball hits the rim.  It appears to be a mistake from the scorer's bench.  The winning shot was made as the horn was going off.
#7
Its not that long ago---Elmhurst beat North Park 66-39 on January 23, 2008
#8
North Park's endowment as of June 30, 2010 is $55,676,603
#9
Dylan Howard is a native of Fort Wayne and a four-year varsity starter in high school.  He received a scholarship to the University of Alabama-Birmingham and was a four-year letterman under Gene Bartow.  During his four years at UAB the team reached the NCAA tournament twice and reached the final four of the NIT.

After college he played two years overseas in Asia and was named to the All-League team in 1989 and 1990.  He received the Asian League's MVP award in 1989.
#10
Interesting article in the Kansas City Star about Andy Studebaker

www.kansascity.com/2010/08/17/2157551/chiefs-studebaker-putting-himself.html
#11
I added the figures for North Park.

school2009 (in $1,000s)2008 (in $1,000s)% change
Wheaton  250,695  321,930  -27.1
Illinois Wesleyan  151,141  182,476  -17.2
Augustana    88,745  110,990  -20.5
Millikin    84,409    88,739    -4.9
North Central    70,462    78,598  -10.4
Elmhurst    70,101    97,938  -28.4
North Park    49,272    60,304  -18.3
Carthage    33,693    43,499  -22.5

(edited by GS for formatting)
#12

I lived in Chicago for four years and worked at three Catholic institutions so all I really know is the rivalries, misunderstandings, issues, etc. between the Catholic universities.

The only thing I know about North Park is that they slashed tuition (and the massive tuition discounts) in a rather ambitious and unique recruitment strategy.  It sounded like a good plan.  I know my institution charged $18,000 in tuition, but gave thousands in scholarships to practically everyone, so the North Park plan seemed to make a lot of sense.  Did that plan work, by the way?
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The plan has been succcesful.  North Park had 1408 undergraduate students in 2004-05, the year before the plan was adopted. The following year the number of new students increased from 480 to 607.  Since that time the number of new students has remained around 600 and the total enrollment has increased to 1852.









#13
As Greg has mentioned North Park's gym was not designed very well for basketball because it was designed as an auditorium and a gymnasium.  There is a stage at the east end that gives the gym a high school appearance.  There are also exit doors in north side of the gym in the middle of the court.  This eliminates over 200 choice seats in the middle of the bleachers.

The seating capacity is smaller than the other gyms in the CCIW. North Park administrators probably thought the seating capacity was large enough for basketball crowds when it was built in 1958 because the games did not attract huge crowds. The games were played in nearby highs chool gyms. The basketball court in the previous gym was not regulation size and there were no bleachers in that gym. The crowds increased when the games were played on campus. North Park soon learned the capacity of the gym should have been larger because it was filled to capacity when North Park won its first CCIW championship in 1969. 

Despite these flaws North Park's gymnasium was actually better than most of the other gyms in the conference when North Park joined the CCIW in 1961

School         Gymnasium   Built      Notes
Augustana     Gymnasium        1916     Seating capacity of 1,000
Carroll         Ganfield Gym   1923     Replaced by Van Male Fieldhouse in 1965
Carthage         Fieldhouse   1930     Replaced by Physical Education Center in 1965
Elmhurst         Goebel Hall   1928     Played games at off-campus high school gym
Ill Wesleyan   Memorial Gym   1923     Replaced by Fred Young Gym in 1962
Lake Forest    Alumni                1951    Renovated into ice arena for hockey team in 1970
Millikin         Gymnasium    1912    Played games at off-campus high school gyms
N Central       Merner    1931    Still used by school
North Park     Gymnasium         1958    Seating capacity of 1400
Wheaton         Centennial    1959    Seating capacity of 3,600. Renovated in 2000

Any advantage North Park had quickly vanished as other schools built new facilities: Augustana (1971), Carroll (1965), Carthage (1965), Elmhurst (1983), Illinois Wesleyan (1994), Millikin (1970), and Wheaton (1959).




#14
 Re: CCIW Chat
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Quote from: omaha on Today at 09:02:01 am
Add two more CCIW victories over D1 teams.  During the 1979-80 season North Park defeated Cal-Irvine 69-55 and San Diego 72-69.  It was San Diego's first season as a D1 team.

Is that University of California at San Diego, or San Diego State University? Just curious since I live out here.

Neither--according to the USD website:

The University of San Diego, home of the Toreros, sponsors 17 NCAA Division I intercollegiate teams, and is a member of the West Coast Conference for nearly all sports.
#15
Add two more CCIW victories over D1 teams.  During the 1979-80 season North Park defeated Cal-Irvine 69-55 and San Diego 72-69.  It was San Diego's first season as a D1 team.