Quote from: Flying Dutch Fan on March 18, 2024, 02:26:57 PMFigured I would take a look at how our "recruit" list (incoming FR and transfers) prior to this season panned out.  So here is a list for each school, and what percentage of their minutes, points, rebounds, and assists came from those players:


                                                   

Team	Incoming	Recruits	Minutes	Points	Rebounds	Assists
Adrian	FR	6	0.302	0.33	0.289	0.26
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Albion	FR	6	0.147	0.147	0.148	0.182
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Alma	FR	6	0.131	0.118	0.076	0.066
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Calvin	FR	2	0.066	0.065	0.034	0.092
	Transfer	2	0.062	0.05	0.053	0.037
	All	4	0.128	0.115	0.087	0.129
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Hope	FR	3	0.124	0.079	0.125	0.128
	Transfer	1	0.059	0.057	0.033	0.028
	All	4	0.183	0.136	0.158	0.156
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Kalamazoo	FR	3	0.12	0.109	0.116	0.051
	Transfer	1	0.019	0.016	0.018	0.011
	All	4	0.14	0.125	0.134	0.062
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Olivet	FR	7	0.464	0.469	0.489	0.343
	Transfer	1	0.003	0.003	0.001	0.003
	All	8	0.467	0.472	0.49	0.346
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Trine	FR	1	0.021	0.006	0.027	0.016
	Transfer	3	0.386	0.464	0.223	0.444
	All	4	0.407	0.47	0.25	0.461

Some significant numbers there and varying significantly between the really young teams with lots of FR contributing (Adrian and Olivet) and Trine with the transfers.

Couple notes

I like Adrian Fr. Darius Welch a lot, unfortunately he hurt his shoulder very early in the season and was hampered by it all year.  Word is he'll need surgery this off season.  A healthy Darius could make a big impact next year.


Olivet's best player was probably Fr. Lee Hardy who couldn't play after the 1st semester a pairing with a quickly developing Schipper would have been a tough low post duo in league play.


Alma has the most to replace, though I don't know how many can use the "covid year". 7 of the top 8 or 9 were listed as Sr's this past season. 

Quote from: Grutte Dirk on March 18, 2024, 07:03:11 PM

Quote from: monsoon on March 18, 2024, 05:41:44 PMFinal Top 25 is out.
#1:  Trine
#6:  Calvin
#25: Hope
https://d3hoops.com/top25/men/2023-24/final\

So, Holland beats #6 Calvin and #1 Trine in the MIAA tournament, loses to #11 Case Western in the 2nd round of the NCAA tournament, and drops three spots? I'd like to see Holland O'fer for a season, and I think that's ridiculous.

Hope made the round of 32, you'll get some variance in where voters placed them among those 32 teams.  Some higher some lower.  They needed to win the Whitewater and Platteville games to stick in the top 25 poll most of the season.  They really weren't in that conversation until the MIAA tournament.  A few noticed an 18 point win over someone in late January but that was some brief votes.

They played Platteville very tough and probably should have won that one in early December.  Otherwise the non-conference schedule did not have much of a take notice factor.

There wasn't much difference between Trine, Calvin, Hope and Platteville and a number of other teams by years end.  Play that tournament 10 times you probably get 6 or 7 different winners this  year.  That's why the tournament is fun.

All three MIAA teams got some trophies, fun year overall.  Some surprises, some not.

Hope went from 91 points to 62.  That means the average voter moved one more team ahead of them than they dropped below them.  Not a huge movement, especially with four teams below them who made the second weekend.

Coe is the only team who passed them who didn't perform better.

Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 19, 2024, 10:32:28 AMHope went from 91 points to 62.  That means the average voter moved one more team ahead of them than they dropped below them.  Not a huge movement, especially with four teams below them who made the second weekend.

Coe is the only team who passed them who didn't perform better.

I hear you, but I think what many Hope fans are lokoing at is a team that went 9-1 since the end of January, including wins versus #1 and #6, with their only loss versus #11

I see that Wheaton already has its schedule posted for next season, and includes two MIAA schools:

Nov 19 Olivet @ Wheaton
Nov 26 Hope @ Wheaton

Trine commit:

Kieran Tewari    6'3 G    Yorktown HS, IN

Quote from: Flying Dutch Fan on March 20, 2024, 11:12:27 AMI think what many Hope fans are looking at is a team that went 9-1 since the end of January, including wins versus #1 and #6, with their only loss versus #11

YES! I assume the ranking is about the best teams when the votes are cast, not a season-long body of work.

Quote from: KnightSlappy on March 16, 2024, 11:18:41 PMThe rumor I heard this weekend was that Megnanglo would be coming back to Trine.

It's been confirmed that Megnanglo will be returning for a 5th year.  That is great news!  I have also heard that Cam Awls will probably be coming back as well.  That means we'll be only losing 2 players from the championship roster for the 24-25 season, Cortez Garland and Brent Cox.

It's going to be another dogfight in the MIAA next season between Calvin, Hope and Trine.  I think both Olivet and Adrian will be much better too.

The latest I had heard (senior day), Albion's planning to return over 80% of minutes played and points scored.  If a few injured players are able to return, that should only help.

Have you heard any talk of transfers to Trine?  Particularly the kind that may affect the above?

Quote from: TUAngola on March 22, 2024, 06:37:59 PM

Quote from: KnightSlappy on March 16, 2024, 11:18:41 PMThe rumor I heard this weekend was that Megnanglo would be coming back to Trine.

It's been confirmed that Megnanglo will be returning for a 5th year.  That is great news!  I have also heard that Cam Awls will probably be coming back as well.  That means we'll be only losing 2 players from the championship roster for the 24-25 season, Cortez Garland and Brent Cox.

It's going to be another dogfight in the MIAA next season between Calvin, Hope and Trine.  I think both Olivet and Adrian will be much better too.

That was the assumption around Fort Wayne last week - just losing those two for next season. Also heard some very unconfirmed rumors of a transfer or two coming in - but that's pretty typical for a title team (the rumors, that is).

Quote from: Flying Dutch Fan on March 18, 2024, 02:26:57 PM

Team	Incoming	Recruits	Minutes	Points	Rebounds	Assists
Albion	FR	6	0.147	0.147	0.148	0.182
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One thing this shows me is that I need to do a better job of finding Albion's recruits!   

I think the freshmen and transfers ended up contributing about 30% (roughly 17% freshmen, 13% transfers for minutes) of Albion's minutes and points and an even greater percentage when you consider conference only.

Some of these are already on the list for next year, but this is who I've seen so far:
Mason Brodi, 6'0", Utica
https://twitter.com/MasonBrodi1/status/1757771942491304221

Jacek Haight, 6'0", Allendale
https://twitter.com/akhaight/status/1755347988879135228

Anthony Hutter, 6'8", Milford
https://twitter.com/AnthonyHutter/status/1755359447491248145

Clay Shoup, 6'1", Mason County Eastern
https://twitter.com/clay_shoup/status/1767520545778675870

Robbie Wynn, 6'0", Livonia Franklin
https://twitter.com/Robbiewynn0/status/1758982526700265503

We will get some scheduling news for next season when the 2024 Great Lakes Invitational matchups and schedule is announced tonight at 8 PM ET: https://youtu.be/uMQvyLC98bw

Calvin (host) and Hope will be joined in the eight-team field by Emory, John Carroll, Johns Hopkins, Marietta, Saint John's and UW-La Crosse.

Trine commit:

Preston Malpass    6'7 F   East Jordan, MI

Prepped at La Porte La Lumiere IN.

Updated recruit list - corrections encouraged!!

Player	Height	Position	High School	College
				Adrian
Mason Brodi	6-0	G	Utica (MI)	Albion
Jacek Haight	6-0	G	Allendale (MI)	Albion
Robbie Wynn	6-0	G	Livonia Franklin (MI)	Albion
Clay Shoup	6-1	G	Mason County Eastern (MI)	Albion
Anthony Hutter	6-8	F/C	Milford (MI)	Albion
Duncan Moffitt	5-10	G	Jackson NW (MI)	Alma
Luke Riebel	6-0	G	GR Aviation Academy (MI)	Calvin
Noah Swope	6-3	PG	Portage Central (MI)	Calvin
Justin McIllwain	6-4	G/F	Hamilton (MI)	Calvin
Andy Spoelman	6-6	G/F	Illiana Christian (IN)	Calvin
Luke Michmerhuizen	6-7	F	Holland Christian (MI)	Calvin
Bryce O'Mara	6-7	F	Grand Blanc (MI)	Calvin
Brady Miller	6-3	PG	Forest Hills Central (MI)	Hope
Luke Bakker	6-5	F	Zeeland West (MI)	Hope
Alex Beachnau	6-5	F	Portage Central (MI)	Hope
Carter Goodyke	6-6	F	Grand Rapids Christian (MI)	Hope
Kyle Blauch	6-7	PF	Boulder (CO)	Hope
Bradley Eziuka	6-4	G	Canton (M()	Kalamazoo
				Olivet
Kieran Tewari	6-3	PG	Muncie Yorktown (IN)	Trine
Izaak Wright	6-3	G	Wabash (IN)	Trine
Preston Malpass	6-7	F	La Porte La Lumiere (IN)	Trine

The other commit I have seen for Calvin is Luke Michmerhuizen from Holland Christian

https://twitter.com/lenny_padilla/status/1761907589493731641