Looks like umhb also lost their wr coach this year:

https://twitter.com/WCAthleticDept/status/1773435386867372270?s=19

A lot of turnover in the coaching department

While I hate to seem like a vulture trying to benefit from BSC's unfortunate situation, I wonder if Harmon would be willing to give Huntingdon a call now that they have a hole on their schedule. They were scheduled to play in Birmingham on September 14, so maybe he should drop Westgate on that date and invite Huntingdon to Belton.

I'm beginning to wonder if WC is even going to have a team by the time the season starts. While their website is still up, I recently tried to look at their football twitter page and it apparently doesn't exist anymore

I think this is possible, UMHB03, and would be fun to have you guys return the trip to Montgomery next year. One issue could be that our lopsided conference schedule has us going to NC Wesleyan, Methodist, and Southern Virginia this year. That's by far the three longest trips we have and to have them all in the same year makes it difficult on the budget to replace a day trip to Birmingham with a trip to Texas, whether it's a flight or really long bus ride.

In all of this talk about the Baptist 4, no one has mentioned what are the prospects for LeTourneau. Yes, they are good travel partner for ETBU in soccer, volleyball and basketball. But the same could be said for LeTU and Centenary.

Travel in the SCAC compared to the SLIAC would be prohibitive for Lyon, so it's kind of a moot point.  In the SLIAC their worst case is around 450 miles to Spalding or Eureka, everyone else in the 200s to mid-300s.  The *closest* SCAC school would be Centenary at 310, then Austin at 390, Dallas about 30 miles more, St. Thomas over 500, McMurry and Concordia around 600, TLU and Schreiner 670-690, and Colorado College would check in around 1000.  Oh, I guess Ozarks would be the closest at around 150 once they transfer. 

Interesting tidbits in the Temple Daily Telegram article today:

Quote"Everybody that was ranked No. 1 through No. 7 in the regional rankings in every region got a phone call from me. If they didn't return my call, I sent them an email," Harmon explained. "Every other DIII school in the country was contacted by somebody on our staff saying, 'We have Week 1 through Week 4 open. If you're looking for a non-conference game, would you be interested?' Other than Whitewater, not one of those teams would play us. So that's how we ended up with Bethel, John Melvin and Westgate Christian.

Quote"We didn't want to play Bethel or John Melvin or Westgate Christian because those games don't count when it comes to deciding at-large playoff berths because they're not DIII schools," he said. "People can say what they want, but in my two years as the head coach here, we've shown that we're not looking to soften up the schedule. We'll play anybody anywhere."

It also seems to point towards an announcement for all the other sports in the ASC getting good news soon... But football schools are still looking to find a home...

Quote"We have offered guaranteed money in the past, but not as much as we offered this year. We offered more money and still couldn't get anybody," Mann said. "The situation is very frustrating because teams have bolted out of our conference, and other teams won't play us."

Edit to add: non-paywall link

https://kdhnews.com/sports/college/umhb/umhb-busy-with-spring-drills-harmon-talks-about-transfers-odd-schedule-staff-changes/article_218963be-3517-5a24-a39e-a1fb0f7f3d3a.html

HPU Schedule is up, now we have all of the schedules:

W1
UMHB @ Bethel (TN) - NAIA
HSU @ HPU - Conference
LaGrange @ ETBU

W2
Westgate @ UMHB - Unaffiliated
HSU @ Curry
HPU @ SAGU - NAIA
ETBU @ Hendrix

W3
UMHB @ UWW
HSU - BYE
HPU @ Lyon
ETBU - BYE

W4
John Melvin @ UMHB - Unaffiliated
NAU @ HSU - NAIA
HPU @ Wittenberg
Centenary @ ETBU

W5
ETBU @ UMHB
Endicott @ HSU
Westgate @ HPU - Unaffiliated

W6
HSU @ UMHB
ETBU @ HPU

W7
UMHB @ HPU
HSU @ McMurry
Westgate @ ETBU

W8
UMHB - BYE
HSU @ ETBU
HPU - BYE

W9
ETBU @ UMHB
HSU @ HPU

W10
UMHB @ HSU
HPU @ ETBU

W11
HPU @ UMHB
HSU @ ETBU

I think I copied those right...

I certainly hope Westgate is legit. Three of the four ASC programs have a game scheduled against an opponent who has almost zero information on its website, has never played football, deleted its X/Twitter account within the past week, and is noncountable by the NCAA. This is one of those situations where you wonder if Westgate will even have enough available players by the time they get to ETBU on Oct. 19.

Westgate's webpages are worse than Arkansas Baptist.  I'm not even sure Westgate is a real school at this point.  I think I had better confidence in them before looking them up.  If I were you guys, I'd be on the phone to Huntingdon, and what ever SAA school was supposed to play BsC the weekend you are scheduled to play them.  I'd drop them as soon as possible.  Take this gift BSC has given you and schedule another team. 

Quote from: BSCpanthers on April 01, 2024, 11:46:10 AMWestgate's webpages are worse than Arkansas Baptist.  I'm not even sure Westgate is a real school at this point.  I think I had better confidence in them before looking them up.  If I were you guys, I'd be on the phone to Huntingdon, and what ever SAA school was supposed to play BsC the weekend you are scheduled to play them.  I'd drop them as soon as possible.  Take this gift BSC has given you and schedule another team. 

If you read the Kileen Daily Herald story above (thanks Etch for the non-paywall link), it says UMHB contacted every school in the country prior to signing up for those games.  The schools no longer having BSC on the schedule have more motivation now than before to be sure.

Quote from: Riley Zayas on April 01, 2024, 10:07:45 AMee of the four ASC programs have a game scheduled against an opponent who has almost zero information on its website, has never played football, deleted its X/Twitter account within the past week, and is noncountable by the NCAA. This is one of those situations where you wonder if Westgate will even have enough available players by the time they get to ETBU on Oct. 19.

Both of their X/Twitter accounts appear to be still up?
https://twitter.com/westgatecu
https://twitter.com/WestgateUfb

Quote from: Ron Boerger on April 01, 2024, 11:54:49 AM

Quote from: BSCpanthers on April 01, 2024, 11:46:10 AMWestgate's webpages are worse than Arkansas Baptist.  I'm not even sure Westgate is a real school at this point.  I think I had better confidence in them before looking them up.  If I were you guys, I'd be on the phone to Huntingdon, and what ever SAA school was supposed to play BsC the weekend you are scheduled to play them.  I'd drop them as soon as possible.  Take this gift BSC has given you and schedule another team. 

If you read the Kileen Daily Herald story above (thanks Etch for the non-paywall link), it says UMHB contacted every school in the country prior to signing up for those games.  The schools no longer having BSC on the schedule have more motivation now than before to be sure.

You think maybe UMHB can get a discount on paying them to come play us now that they're desperate?

This was the Twitter account several of their recruits had been tagging in posts: https://twitter.com/WestgateU_FB

Again, that doesn't really say anything...but it is odd to delete your only social media account (assuming that was the main account...it was the most up-to-date one and seemed to be run by one of the coaches from the looks of it)

Quote from: Riley Zayas on April 01, 2024, 12:15:37 PMThis was the Twitter account several of their recruits had been tagging in posts: https://twitter.com/WestgateU_FB

Again, that doesn't really say anything...but it is odd to delete your only social media account (assuming that was the main account...it was the most up-to-date one and seemed to be run by one of the coaches from the looks of it)

From a corporate governance standpoint it makes sense if it was a lookalike set up by a coach who may or may not be still employed by the university.  It could be that the other account is an actual corporate/business/whatever they're calling them this week account and allows the business to manage the account better.  I don't know if the WestgateU_FB account ever posted, it could have been an imposter account as well and kids were tagging the wrong account.

I thought the same thing. But I checked out the one that was deleted a few times. There was info about tryouts and reposts of commitments and tweets by the head coach. It was also the account the head coach tagged multiple times in his posts and the account linked by the recruiting coordinator in his Twitter bio. Seemed way more legit than an account that last posted in September 2023 and had zero information pertaining to the football program whatsoever.

Quote from: Riley Zayas on April 01, 2024, 12:15:37 PMThis was the Twitter account several of their recruits had been tagging in posts: https://twitter.com/WestgateU_FB

Again, that doesn't really say anything...but it is odd to delete your only social media account (assuming that was the main account...it was the most up-to-date one and seemed to be run by one of the coaches from the looks of it)

How do they do their recruiting?