Quote from: WashJeff68 on April 24, 2024, 06:53:40 AMPerhaps they anticipate a current member having to close due to financial problems, or dropping football.

I think all conferences should have a plan in case a current member or members close.

So Hiram rejoins the PAC which will, like Allegheny, enable them to save a bunch on travel, make life easier for their fan base to follow them on the road. and enable them to be more competitive athletically.  They have also lost enrollment (according to Niche they have just under 700 full time undergrad students) and are loosing money virtually every year. I suspect the NCAC will hardly notice that they are gone and not sure what they add to the PAC unless there are other shoes yet to drop.

Quote from: WashJeff68 on April 29, 2024, 11:36:14 AMSo Hiram rejoins the PAC which will, like Allegheny, enable them to save a bunch on travel, make life easier for their fan base to follow them on the road. and enable them to be more competitive athletically.  They have also lost enrollment (according to Niche they have just under 700 full time undergrad students) and are loosing money virtually every year. I suspect the NCAC will hardly notice that they are gone and not sure what they add to the PAC unless there are other shoes yet to drop.

Official total is around 950 and the school is on very solid financial footing. Having said that, I agree with the rest of your takes and look forward to the PAC.

Quote from: HCAlum86 on May 13, 2024, 08:38:38 PM

Quote from: WashJeff68 on April 29, 2024, 11:36:14 AMSo Hiram rejoins the PAC which will, like Allegheny, enable them to save a bunch on travel, make life easier for their fan base to follow them on the road. and enable them to be more competitive athletically.  They have also lost enrollment (according to Niche they have just under 700 full time undergrad students) and are loosing money virtually every year. I suspect the NCAC will hardly notice that they are gone and not sure what they add to the PAC unless there are other shoes yet to drop.

Official total is around 950 and the school is on very solid financial footing. Having said that, I agree with the rest of your takes and look forward to the PAC.

Actual total reported to the U.S. Department of Education, though, is 684 full-time undergraduates.

Quote from: Pat Coleman on May 14, 2024, 09:40:43 AM

Quote from: HCAlum86 on May 13, 2024, 08:38:38 PM

Quote from: WashJeff68 on April 29, 2024, 11:36:14 AMSo Hiram rejoins the PAC which will, like Allegheny, enable them to save a bunch on travel, make life easier for their fan base to follow them on the road. and enable them to be more competitive athletically.  They have also lost enrollment (according to Niche they have just under 700 full time undergrad students) and are loosing money virtually every year. I suspect the NCAC will hardly notice that they are gone and not sure what they add to the PAC unless there are other shoes yet to drop.

Official total is around 950 and the school is on very solid financial footing. Having said that, I agree with the rest of your takes and look forward to the PAC.

Actual total reported to the U.S. Department of Education, though, is 684 full-time undergraduates.

Yep, we have some issues with our reporting that's being addressed with the new president - someone in the registrar's office is lazy, and that's the most diplomatic way I can say it lol. There are a few hundred commuter students who take reduced workloads (below 12 hours but usually above 9 and on campus everyday) and, Hiram has agreed to honor all of Notre Dame College's student credits following its closure. We currently have 75+ students enrolled from NDC, and anticipate at least a few dozen more before the fall semester.

Quote from: HCAlum86 on May 14, 2024, 02:23:57 PM

Quote from: Pat Coleman on May 14, 2024, 09:40:43 AM

Quote from: HCAlum86 on May 13, 2024, 08:38:38 PM

Quote from: WashJeff68 on April 29, 2024, 11:36:14 AMSo Hiram rejoins the PAC which will, like Allegheny, enable them to save a bunch on travel, make life easier for their fan base to follow them on the road. and enable them to be more competitive athletically.  They have also lost enrollment (according to Niche they have just under 700 full time undergrad students) and are loosing money virtually every year. I suspect the NCAC will hardly notice that they are gone and not sure what they add to the PAC unless there are other shoes yet to drop.

Official total is around 950 and the school is on very solid financial footing. Having said that, I agree with the rest of your takes and look forward to the PAC.

Actual total reported to the U.S. Department of Education, though, is 684 full-time undergraduates.

Yep, we have some issues with our reporting that's being addressed with the new president - someone in the registrar's office is lazy, and that's the most diplomatic way I can say it lol. There are a few hundred commuter students who take reduced workloads (below 12 hours but usually above 9 and on campus everyday) and, Hiram has agreed to honor all of Notre Dame College's student credits following its closure. We currently have 75+ students enrolled from NDC, and anticipate at least a few dozen more before the fall semester.

Hiram's Common Data Set, which was through the fall reporting date of Oct. 13, 2022, says 704 FT undergrads, or 1,002 when you include part-time undergrads:

https://www.hiram.edu/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/2022-23-CDS-2.pdf

Not unusual that those would be slightly different numbers as they could be pulled on different dates.

On the Future of Div 3 Football I posted a chart that shows the current net assets, liabilities, and the ratio of the two for each school. For Hiram, the numbers are:

Net Assets: $85mm
Liabilities: $43mm
Ratio: 2.0

Average ratio in Conference is 3.6

At the bottom is Bethany with net assets of $54mm liabilities of $50 mm ratio of 1. The largest chunk of the debt they recently took on in a USDA loan.
 
From 2014-2020 Bethany had operating losses of  $17,756,290 with a "profit" in only one of those years.  Things looked better in 21-22 with profits totaling $3,517,943 with most of that in 2021.

The next few years will define Bethany's future.

I like that Hiram adds another school who sponsors wrestling.

Does anyone know if the PAC was in contention for John Carroll? If they wanted out of the OAC, you would think financially the PAC was a better option.  All those sports going to Indiana every year maybe even twice a year(Wabash/Depauw) sounds expensive.

So, you know how people are already talking about what the next wave of realignment in D1-FBS will be............we are doing the same thing here with d3 realignment.

Regarding Hiram, welcome back!  Since our resident Hiram fan lives in Cleveland, attending any Hiram v. CWRU game on the CWRU campus will be easy.

Look forward to renewing the conference rivalry!

Just picked up a copy of Lindy's college football annual.

It's the only major annual with a d3 preview.

Three PAC teams:

Grove City #11
W&J #22
CMU #25

are in their pre-season Top 25.

CWRU has DB Dominic Sais as a Second Team Pre-Season All-American.

The could be one of the best PAC seasons ever!

Quote from: DagarmanSpartan on May 24, 2024, 10:08:36 AMSo, you know how people are already talking about what the next wave of realignment in D1-FBS will be............we are doing the same thing here with d3 realignment.

Regarding Hiram, welcome back!  Since our resident Hiram fan lives in Cleveland, attending any Hiram v. CWRU game on the CWRU campus will be easy.

Look forward to renewing the conference rivalry!

I will be there!

Also, as a Hiram fan, I have to say that I'm thrilled about what Grove City's been able to accomplish - what an incredible turnaround.

https://pacathletics.org/news/2024/6/3/pac-football-to-start-divisional-play-hold-championship-game-in-2025.aspx

"Football affiliates Carnegie Mellon and Case Western Reserve will play in the South Division to match with non-football playing schools Chatham and Franciscan to maintain consistent divisions within all sports."

That alignment keeps the traditional rivals in the same division

Looks like the PAC has resolved the football scheduling Delma  which will allow for
out of conference games and a division championship game to determine who gets the playoff bit.

I posted earlier that Bethany may be in trouble. Their current president is a consultant who is a turn around specialist.

https://www.bethanywv.edu/about/college-leadership/

Add to all this the gvt financial aid debacle and Bethany could conceivably not be able to open this fall. Hope it doesn't end this way for a school with the long history Bethany has

WOW!!!

So the PAC is following the lead of D1-FBS conferences by having divisions and/or playing a conference title game!

Do any other D3 conferences currently do this for football?

I actually like this, insofar as it allows for a better non-conference/intersectional schedule.

Perhaps CWRU and CMU could schedule OOC games with MIT, etc.