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D3fanboy

Quote from: UMHB03 on May 19, 2024, 09:33:53 PM
Quote from: crufootball on May 18, 2024, 09:16:51 AMI think it must have been a different year when UMHB fans and a Mount fan are going after each other about GPAs haha 
I guess he has to resort to that when he can't point to the scoreboard.

I don't know if there's a "scoreboard" for number of national championships, but even a 2.7 math student would point out that 13 is far more than 2.  Those 4.0 kids might even bring up that 1 vacated national title is infinitely more than any other D3fb program

UMHB03

Apples to oranges comparing a program that started in 1998 to a program that started in 1893.

13 national titles in 131 years, for an average of one national title every 10 years.

3 national titles in 26 years, for an average of one national title every 8.6 years.

3-2 head to head record. Three Stagg Bowl wins in the last decade vs two. 24-16 in the most recent meeting.

Now you can go crawl back under your rock and think about them apples.
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CruFrenzy

Quote from: Pat Coleman on May 15, 2024, 08:17:20 PM
Quote from: UMHB03 on May 15, 2024, 08:04:47 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on May 15, 2024, 04:16:20 PMCrubacker, I let one post that was basically entirely personal insult go through, but drawing the line at the second one.
A good way to preempt people from making personal insults would be to take out the trash and remove trolls from boards to which they contribute nothing, and only post flame material to bait people into said insults. It was my impression that the purpose of these boards was to discuss football, yet individuals whose sole intent is to derail conversations about this topic seem to be allowed to do so with impunity.

Posting about UMHB's football GPA social media post is on-topic, sorry.

Pat, unrelated but I was curious to why John Melvin and Westgate Christian aren't included on the D3football.com version of the UMHB 2024 schedule.
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Pat Coleman

Quote from: CruFrenzy on May 27, 2024, 10:13:27 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on May 15, 2024, 08:17:20 PM
Quote from: UMHB03 on May 15, 2024, 08:04:47 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on May 15, 2024, 04:16:20 PMCrubacker, I let one post that was basically entirely personal insult go through, but drawing the line at the second one.
A good way to preempt people from making personal insults would be to take out the trash and remove trolls from boards to which they contribute nothing, and only post flame material to bait people into said insults. It was my impression that the purpose of these boards was to discuss football, yet individuals whose sole intent is to derail conversations about this topic seem to be allowed to do so with impunity.

Posting about UMHB's football GPA social media post is on-topic, sorry.

Pat, unrelated but I was curious to why John Melvin and Westgate Christian aren't included on the D3football.com version of the UMHB 2024 schedule.

We don't include games with teams that the NCAA doesn't recognize as countable opponents such as Westgate and Lewis-Clark Valley and the like.
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D3fanboy

Quote from: UMHB03 on May 20, 2024, 08:05:13 PMApples to oranges comparing a program that started in 1998 to a program that started in 1893.

13 national titles in 131 years, for an average of one national title every 10 years.

3 national titles in 26 years, for an average of one national title every 8.6 years.

3-2 head to head record. Three Stagg Bowl wins in the last decade vs two. 24-16 in the most recent meeting.

Now you can go crawl back under your rock and think about them apples.

if we're talking about math. 

Mount Union has had 131 chances to have a season vacated.  With zero, that would be 0.0%

UMHB has had 26 seasons and 2 vacated.  That would be 7.7%

There have been 50 Stagg Bowl champs, only 1 had to vacate their title.  2.0% total and 100% UMHB

a 2-2 record vs Mount and the same number of national titles is great stuff to brag about.  Some D2 conference is going to love you guys

Gray Fox

Quote from: D3fanboy on May 29, 2024, 04:47:51 PM
Quote from: UMHB03 on May 20, 2024, 08:05:13 PMApples to oranges comparing a program that started in 1998 to a program that started in 1893.

13 national titles in 131 years, for an average of one national title every 10 years.

3 national titles in 26 years, for an average of one national title every 8.6 years.

3-2 head to head record. Three Stagg Bowl wins in the last decade vs two. 24-16 in the most recent meeting.

Now you can go crawl back under your rock and think about them apples.

if we're talking about math. 

Mount Union has had 131 chances to have a season vacated.  With zero, that would be 0.0%

UMHB has had 26 seasons and 2 vacated.  That would be 7.7%

There have been 50 Stagg Bowl champs, only 1 had to vacate their title.  2.0% total and 100% UMHB

a 2-2 record vs Mount and the same number of national titles is great stuff to brag about.  Some D2 conference is going to love you guys
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Crubacker

3-2.  Guess math isn't a subject that athletes at MU excel at.

2004-----38-35----a nobody UMHB came back to thump a somebody MU-----ran all over them in fact(rushing)
2016-----14-12   I know you won't count this because it was vacated.  Game was played on the field, not in a subaru
2018------24-16----horns down turned to horns up

 ;D  ;D  ;D  8-)

UMHB03

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Quote from: D3fanboy on May 29, 2024, 04:47:51 PM
Quote from: UMHB03 on May 20, 2024, 08:05:13 PMApples to oranges comparing a program that started in 1998 to a program that started in 1893.

13 national titles in 131 years, for an average of one national title every 10 years.

3 national titles in 26 years, for an average of one national title every 8.6 years.

3-2 head to head record. Three Stagg Bowl wins in the last decade vs two. 24-16 in the most recent meeting.

Now you can go crawl back under your rock and think about them apples.

if we're talking about math. 

Mount Union has had 131 chances to have a season vacated.  With zero, that would be 0.0%

UMHB has had 26 seasons and 2 vacated.  That would be 7.7%

There have been 50 Stagg Bowl champs, only 1 had to vacate their title.  2.0% total and 100% UMHB

a 2-2 record vs Mount and the same number of national titles is great stuff to brag about.  Some D2 conference is going to love you guys
I was focusing on relevant stats, not the deplorable NCAA's arbitrary and biased decision to pretend that certain wins and championships didn't happen.
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Mavchamp

Hearing there MAY BE an announcement after ETBU is finished hosting the NCAA softball world series.

Sooooo.....Monday? 

Fingers crossed.

TheChucker

Quote from: Mavchamp on May 31, 2024, 04:39:45 PMHearing there MAY BE an announcement after ETBU is finished hosting the NCAA softball world series.

Sooooo.....Monday? 

Fingers crossed.

ETBU vs Belhaven in the Natty, two ASC teams from last year. UT Tyler just won the D2 Natty, an ASC team a few years ago. Sad to see a once premier conference in several sports circle the drain.

Riley Zayas

D3 Softball World Series wraps up tomorrow. Will certainly be interesting if an announcement comes on Thursday or Friday.

And yes, seeing both ETBU and Belhaven in the championship series is a reminder how strong this league was in recent years. Those ASC softball tournaments were true battles. Same with baseball when we had Louisiana College in the national rankings almost every year.

That said, I understand why Belhaven left. SRSU was still part of the league when they left, and LC had departed as well...and let's be honest, most Texas coaches in the ASC didn't enjoy trips to Mississippi, especially in sports like basketball, where you went out there to play just 1 game. Baseball/Softball is easier, since it's a weekend series, but financially, it was a lot of miles, especially for the Abilene schools.
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justafan12

Before Belhaven Mississippi College was an ASC member prior to their move to D2 maybe in 2014 or so.  ASC teams had been making the trip to Mississippi for several years.

Riley Zayas

Absolutely. But losing LC as well made it a tougher travel situation when you don't have a convenient travel partner. All I know is most ASC coaches weren't too upset when Belhaven announced its departure. At that point in time, the ASC was still on very solid ground. And I'm sure that had something to do with the indifference towards losing a conference member.
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Ron Boerger

Cory Hogue has released the DCTF Non-FBS Power Poll - Summer Edition which somewhat confusingly lists all non-FBS teams in a numeric order but then notes "rankings [..] demonstrate a team's ranking relative to its respective division and are not designed to determine how teams would fare in a head-to-head contest".  So, here are just the D3 teams - see the article for his rationale.  I'll include the ordinals but, much like the points on Whose Line Is It Anyway, they don't matter.

(3) Trinity
(5) Hardin-Simmons
(8) UMHB
(12) McMurry
(14) HPU
(22) ETBU
(26) TLU
(27) Southwestern
(32) Austin

BSCpanthers

I was very confused seeing this post having Austin anywhere on it.  So I clicked the link and saw it was Texas only teams.  Then it made some sense.