https://unitedsoccercoaches.org/rankings/college-rankings/ncaa-diii-men/

National - Poll 1 - September 10, 2024
Rank    School    Prev    W-L-T
1    Amherst College    2    2-0-0
2    SUNY Cortland    13    5-0-0
3    Messiah University    18    3-0-0
4    University of Mary Washington    9    4-0-0
5    Kenyon College    19    3-0-1
6    Middlebury College    5    3-0-0
7    Colorado College    6    4-0-0
8    Rowan University    NR    2-1-1
9    University of Chicago    7    2-1-0
10    Gustavus Adolphus College    RV    3-0-1
11    Tufts University    10    2-0-0
12    Worcester Polytechnic Institute    NR    4-0-0
13    Ohio Northern University    15    3-1-0
14    Dickinson College    NR    4-0-0
15    Roanoke College    NR    2-0-1
16    Plattsburgh State University    NR    3-0-1
17    University of Wisconsin-Eau Claire    16    3-0-1
18    Lebanon Valley College    NR    3-1-0
19    United States Coast Guard Academy    NR    4-0-0
20    North Park University    NR    2-0-2
21    Southwestern University    NR    3-0-1
22    University of Rochester    RV    1-1-1
23    Denison University    NR    3-0-1
24    Wheaton College (Mass.)    NR    3-1-1
25    Covenant College    NR    4-0-0

Records shown are through games of September 8, 2024

Also receiving votes: Swarthmore College, Connecticut College, Bowdoin College, Trinity University (Texas), Macalester College, Hope College, Christopher Newport University, Franklin & Marshall College, Claremont-McKenna-Harvey Mudd-Scripps Colleges, John Carroll University

Rochester continues to be the Alabama of division 3 soccer. It does not matter what their results are they are always darlings of the d3 soccer powers that be.

Shut the season off right now...

Quote from: EnmoreCat on September 10, 2024, 03:30:10 PMShut the season off right now...

LOL....

I don't mind the critique and questioning of the SC Top 25.  Keeps me honest and makes me want to have an iron clad understanding of where I have teams and why I do or don't rank them.

But if you have problems with mine ... mon dieau ... you have to have issues with this one.

SC

Quote from: stlawus on September 10, 2024, 03:24:07 PMRochester continues to be the Alabama of division 3 soccer. It does not matter what their results are they are always darlings of the d3 soccer powers that be.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that this is more of a reflection of how the USC does it's national rankings compared to UR being given special treatment. The coaches in Region III seem to give more credit to their 2-1 loss at Cortland compared to Buffalo State's opening run against lower level teams.

All in all, it's the first poll and the rankings will work themselves out - evenly representing each region along the way.

I know it all works out in the end generally but UR seems to always end up in coaches rankings and regional rankings regardless of their results. The same exact thing happens in basketball.  It's just bizarre how they always get the benefit of the doubt, especially when teams have better results than them.

Quote from: stlawus on September 11, 2024, 04:16:46 PMI know it all works out in the end generally but UR seems to always end up in coaches rankings and regional rankings regardless of their results. The same exact thing happens in basketball.  It's just bizarre how they always get the benefit of the doubt, especially when teams have better results than them.

It's probably at least to some degree an artifact of Rochester's membership in the UAA, which, as in D3 men's basketball, is a powerhouse league in D3 men's soccer.

Which would make sense if they have played UAA opponents. Instead their best result is a 3-0 win against a 10 man and winless RIT. It's not that serious, I just find it incredibly amusing how much heavy lifting the idea of Rochester does for the rankings rather than the actual Rochester.

The USC rankings are nice to look at and discuss but they will have no bearing on the NPI which will be used for the Open teams that do not have an ACQ.

Will be interesting to compare and contrast NPI with USC.

https://unitedsoccercoaches.org/rankings/college-rankings/ncaa-diii-men/

Amherst goes from #1 to RV after a loss to Williams (kind of harsh if you ask me) and Messiah's two losses last week drop them from #3 to RV.   Rowan may drop out of at least the top 10 next week after tying Haverford 0-0 today.

National - Poll 2 - September 17, 2024
Rank    School    Prev    W-L-T
1    University of Mary Washington    4    6-0-0
2    Middlebury College    6    4-0-0
3    Colorado College    7    5-0-1
4    Kenyon College    5    3-0-2
5    Dickinson College    14    6-0-0
6    Gustavus Adolphus College    10    5-0-1
7    Tufts University    11    3-0-1
8    University of Chicago    9    4-1-0
9    Rowan University    8    2-1-2
10    SUNY Cortland    2    5-1-1
11    University of Wisconsin-Eau Claire    17    5-0-1
12    United States Coast Guard Academy    19    5-0-1
13    Christopher Newport University    RV    4-0-2
14    Claremont-McKenna-Harvey Mudd-Scripps Colleges    RV    4-0-1
15    Ohio Northern University    13    4-1-2
16    Swarthmore College    RV    5-0-1
17    Plattsburgh State University    16    4-0-2
18    Hope College    RV    6-1-0
19    Bowdoin College    NR    3-0-1
20    Babson College    NR    2-0-3
21    University of Rochester    22    3-1-1
22    Worcester Polytechnic Institute    12    5-1-0
23    John Carroll University    RV    5-1-0
24    Southwestern University    21    4-0-1
25    North Park University    20    3-0-3

Records shown are through games of September 15, 2024

Also receiving votes: Amherst College, Roanoke College, Macalester College, Montclair State University, Messiah University, Lebanon Valley College

I knew the season should have stopped after week one.

Dickinson at #5... Early season rankings are fun!

Colorado College in rare air, literally and figuratively (and SC ranks them second).  Has to be the highest ranking in program history.

EDIT:  according to the CC story on the ranking, it is.  The story also notes the 5-0-1 start is the best since 1995.

Quote from: Ron Boerger on September 18, 2024, 11:01:47 AMColorado College in rare air, literally and figuratively (and SC ranks them second).  Has to be the highest ranking in program history.

EDIT:  according to the CC story on the ranking, it is.  The story also notes the 5-0-1 start is the best since 1995.

Colorado College is definitely a strong team with a lot of the pieces, but they basically constructed a schedule of opponents designed to make sure they were undefeated going into the ONU and Emory games, which were played in Colorado Springs at altitude.  They did well against both, but I think the make or break weekend for them in terms of national rankings will be this weekend when they play @Christopher Newport at 7 pm Eastern on Friday and then, less than 24 hours later, against Mary Washington @CNU at 5 pm Eastern on Saturday.  Today is the end of Colorado College's Block 1 in their one class per month schedule.  So, while they have to travel far to play in Virginia, they won't have to worry about missing classes on the trip.