Quote from: d3soccerfan123 on September 25, 2024, 11:50:01 PMHow many of those grad students have actually attended the school for undergrad? Almost all of the ones at UMW were four year student athletes not just one and dones.

Three of the Hopkins grad students played at JHU as undergrads and are using their COVID year. Three played their undergraduate soccer elsewhere.

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Quote from: PaulNewman on September 25, 2024, 10:15:05 PMI was especially impressed knowing that JHU has an extremely veteran group with multiple grad students/D1 transfers.  Perhaps the two teams are very similar in regard to being older and more mature than most.

JHU has 6 grad students on its roster.  MWU has 9.

How many of those grad students have actually attended the school for undergrad? Almost all of the ones at UMW were four year student athletes not just one and dones.

HTF should I know?  Better yet what difference does it make?  The question was about the maturity of the teams.  Do the Hopkins grad students have an advantage over others when it comes to maturity?  And please don't invoke privilege in the event they may have come from an undergrad program labeled as D1. These days that is a debate worthy of its own thread.

Not an attack so no need for the HTF stuff. Just was posing a question to see if you indeed did know. Don't think it's invoking privilege either more along the lines of what their model has shifted to over the last few years based off of the reputation of the school.

I haven't seen Hop much past the second weekend, but my post at the time pointed out that the backline (and I include the GK in this) isn't as lights out as in years past. In that system, you just can't afford mistakes and the game against Rowan was a bit of a debacle on this front.

Even with the caveat that in years past, due to the grad students, it takes them a few weeks to gel... This year you can tell they are a notch below the usual steadiness and craftiness of the standard that's been set.

(BTW, just for comparison, the Jays lost 4-0 in Fredericksburg last year. I was concerned they'd get boat raced this year, so a 2-2 result is pretty encouraging... Even if what I'm reading about a fairly lopsided affair rings true.)

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Quote from: PaulNewman on September 25, 2024, 10:15:05 PMI was especially impressed knowing that JHU has an extremely veteran group with multiple grad students/D1 transfers.  Perhaps the two teams are very similar in regard to being older and more mature than most.

JHU has 6 grad students on its roster.  MWU has 9.

How many of those grad students have actually attended the school for undergrad? Almost all of the ones at UMW were four year student athletes not just one and dones.

HTF should I know?  Better yet what difference does it make?  The question was about the maturity of the teams.  Do the Hopkins grad students have an advantage over others when it comes to maturity?  And please don't invoke privilege in the event they may have come from an undergrad program labeled as D1. These days that is a debate worthy of its own thread.

Not an attack so no need for the HTF stuff. Just was posing a question to see if you indeed did know. Don't think it's invoking privilege either more along the lines of what their model has shifted to over the last few years based off of the reputation of the school.

Fair enough, but I'm still missing the point in terms of relevance within the original context.  Perhaps you ask out of simple curiosity.

I have a bit of fun (in my own mind at least) commenting on a The Athletic story around football players, asking what their major is. The typical response is, "who cares?".  The most we might get it is, "Junior from Roanoke, Virginia".  I'd love to see it embellished with, "Major in economics, minor in Central European History".  It might give us just a bit more additional insight into the player wearing the shirt and what makes them tick.

I have JHU at 13th in the SC Rankings.  But they have been dropping, largely because of what they do... don't do... in the final third.  Add to that most teams seem to get through their back line pretty easily and often think they are one shot away from conceding.

I think UMW was unlucky not carrying the day, so as of now they are still the #1 team in the country by a pretty wide margin.

SC.

Quote from: EnmoreCat on September 26, 2024, 11:48:02 AMI have a bit of fun (in my own mind at least) commenting on a The Athletic story around football players, asking what their major is. The typical response is, "who cares?".  The most we might get it is, "Junior from Roanoke, Virginia".  I'd love to see it embellished with, "Major in economics, minor in Central European History".  It might give us just a bit more additional insight into the player wearing the shirt and what makes them tick.

That is brilliant... makes me think if I can't put something together for the channel.....

SC.

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Quote from: EnmoreCat on September 26, 2024, 11:48:02 AMI have a bit of fun (in my own mind at least) commenting on a The Athletic story around football players, asking what their major is. The typical response is, "who cares?".  The most we might get it is, "Junior from Roanoke, Virginia".  I'd love to see it embellished with, "Major in economics, minor in Central European History".  It might give us just a bit more additional insight into the player wearing the shirt and what makes them tick.

That is brilliant... makes me think if I can't put something together for the channel.....

SC.

SC, you can tell I'm on holiday, waaaay too much time on my hands...

Speaking of stats...I hadn't noticed these before but they line up with what I observed...

              UMW                JHU
Goals                2                2
Shots        27                8
Shots on Goal    11                5
Saves                3                8 
Corners        10                1
Offsides        8                1
Fouls                18                14


To reiterate, Hopkins is not LaRoche or PS-Brandywine.  Perennial top 10-15 program, very recent Elite 8s, and at beginning of season viewed by many as a very top-level national contender.  JHU also has a lot of season left, so who knows how formidable they may be in November.  A reminder that St Olaf started last year 1-3 and went on to 20-3-3 and a title.

Just a few weeks ago Messiah at UMW would have been viewed by many of us as potentially Game of the Season.  Huge match for both squads, and who would have guessed that Messiah would need this game far, far more than Mary Wash. Even with a loss and a slip to 4-5 I would be cautious in terms of writing the Falcons off.  They still are likely to make the tournament (if only via AQ), and few teams will want to draw the Falcons in the 1st, 2nd, or Sweet 16 rounds.  (See St Olaf above.) That said, will be interesting to see how Mary Wash performs after settling with a draw a couple of nights ago.  Now if only we could talk into existence an improved video experience out of Fredricksburg.

And, yes, I am severely formatting challenged. 

Nah, that's legible PN... And, yeah, backs those who watched and posted.

Messiah @ UMW game has been moved to 3:30 and onto the UMW turf field from the grass. Double negative with bad turf and the crappy camera.

Beyond the matches reviewed in the weekly poll, by Kuiper, and my mention of Messiah vs UMW, here are a few other tilts of consequence.

The weather impact will likely be significant although perhaps much of NY State/New England will be spared.  Late last night the hurricane was still a couple of hours shy of Florida landfall, and already the impact is being felt as far away as Ohio. 

Ohio games tonight...wet and windy...Denison already has been playing on a turf field while they build a new soccer facility and of course the Big Red host CNU tonight.  Otterbein hosts Kenyon and they have a turf field so no change there.  On Sunday, the opponents switch as Otterbein heads to Granville to take on Denison, and CNU makes the short trip north to Gambier.  Will be curious to see if the Kenyon-CNU contest will get moved from grass to the football/lacrosse turf stadium as more rain forecast throughout the weekend.

Others...

Saturday

Rochester-Stevens

Union-Vassar

SLU-RPI

Babson-Brandeis

Williams-Colby

New Paltz-Cortland

Tufts-Wesleyan

Oglethorpe-Centre

Calvin-JCU

Hope-Chicago

Sunday

Amherst-Colby

Williams-Bowdoin

The Ohio games noted above

P.S. While not playing at the same venue one has to assume there was quite a bit of coordination between Bianco and Wall in scheduling CNU and Otterbein back to back.  The dynamics in the NCAC are going to get more interesting.  Before Wall arrived in Gambier one would have presumed that OWU and Denison enjoyed very good relations with a collaborative dislike of the Owls.  Now we've got two OWU alums at the top two OWU rivals (other than OWU schedule staple Calvin) who I assume are close friends with the legendary OWU coach stepping aside after this season.  I'm presuming that neither Bianco or Wall will be heading to Delaware. And then there's JCU walking through the NCAC door for next season which will inject a new, big wrinkle into the mix.

P.S.S. There are a lot of good to very good teams laying in the weeds with mediocre to just above mediocre records so far...Calvin, Messiah, OWU, Stevens, Wheaton (both?), Oglethorpe, Chicago, and a bunch of others.

BIG error on my part.  Denison already has their new state of the art soccer/lacrosse turf facility. Very impressive.

Anyone interested can watch this below.

https://youtu.be/O_k_pxzPTcM

Re PN's PPS - I'd add W&L into that category of potentially good teams with mediocre records, and note that they've already beaten Oglethorpe this season.

Quote from: Another Mom on September 28, 2024, 02:22:23 PMRe PN's PPS - I'd add W&L into that category of potentially good teams with mediocre records, and note that they've already beaten Oglethorpe this season.

PJ Ryan is as good a defender I have seen and guessing a strong AA candidate this year.