Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 31, 2024, 01:18:59 PMEven so, that's the No. 2 in the HCAC.

And no, Westminster has not made the NCAA Division III playoffs yet.

Quote from: D3fanboy on October 31, 2024, 12:27:42 PMIt seems to me that when A) the PAC opened up, B) Mount had openings (due to JCU) C) Mount shows signs of "weakness", there were quality opponents lining up...weird

Also, D -- two or three years ago lots of top-quality D-III teams started lining up to play each other in non-conference. Good to see Mount Union join the trend. And are you really comparing 2004-2005 Wash U to current day Wash U? At least make a genuine argument and spare us the BS.

I saw the 11 games and figured playoffs for Westminster, forgetting about the bowl game nonsense.  You're right Wash U finishing 7-3 every year now is much different than the 6-4 they averaged back then. 

You still haven't given one example of who Mount should have signed to a two year contract 6-7-8 years ago and played the past couple of seasons.  So no PAC and, like I said the HCAC isn't up to snuff for you experts, who would the great Pat Coleman prefer? Should Mount sign up to play some garbage D2 team in Michigan that hasn't won a game in two years?  We don't have any strip mall "colleges" playing football in Ohio that I know of, so we can't go that route.

Please let us know who the playoff teams (preferably those who can get to the 2nd round) that were willing to sign a two year deal with Mount for an OOC game

Wash U has changed conferences a couple of times since 2004-05.

It's an easy answer, actually: Nobody. Mount Union shouldn't have signed contracts 6-7-8 years ago. I am not aware of anyone else in D-III who did that. In this case, it left Mount unable to react to a trend and it leaves them in not great position now that they don't automatically get a top seed any longer. 

who could they have scheduled to get a top seed?

I've seen the "open dates" part of d3football.com.  Very rarely is there a quality team, within driving distance of Mount. 


 

If "within driving distance" is an institutional constraint, that's fine, but it also doesn't give anybody a pass when the SOS is poor. 

Except that for 25 years, UMU more often than not did get a pass so I'm really not sure what you're upset about other than some people pointed out that maybe it should have mattered.  Now we've got new protocols, the old way is the old way and Mount Union is going to play intriguing noncon games in the near future.  Seems like a good time to turn the page and look forward to these good matchups coming up. 

Quote from: D3fanboy on October 31, 2024, 01:58:57 PMwho could they have scheduled to get a top seed?

I've seen the "open dates" part of d3football.com.  Very rarely is there a quality team, within driving distance of Mount. 

That's also probably 25% of all open dates nationally at best. The AFCA also has a similar service, and coaches also fill their open dates without ever posting them on a board.

Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 31, 2024, 04:16:12 PM

Quote from: D3fanboy on October 31, 2024, 01:58:57 PMwho could they have scheduled to get a top seed?

I've seen the "open dates" part of d3football.com.  Very rarely is there a quality team, within driving distance of Mount. 

That's also probably 25% of all open dates nationally at best. The AFCA also has a similar service, and coaches also fill their open dates without ever posting them on a board.

oh geez, I guess Mount is just too scared to play any of the examples of teams that you gave.  Maybe one day the Raiders will be gifted an uncontested National Title again

With NPI, am I wrong in thinking that Mount (or anyone) has little incentive to schedule challenging teams going forward? It just doesn't seem to be worth the risk.

Under the new selection process, your goal is really just to finish 9-1 or 10-0. The marginal benefit of a "good" vs. "middling" vs. "poor" non-conference opponent seems to be minimal.

Per Logan Hansen's projections, Marietta would be a #7 national seed with winning out. That includes a non-conference win over a likely 3-7 St. John Fisher team. To me, this confirms that - at least in a stronger league like the OAC - your non-conference opponent doesn't need to pack much punch.

Quote from: mc1983 on November 01, 2024, 12:15:54 AMWith NPI, am I wrong in thinking that Mount (or anyone) has little incentive to schedule challenging teams going forward? It just doesn't seem to be worth the risk.

Under the new selection process, your goal is really just to finish 9-1 or 10-0. The marginal benefit of a "good" vs. "middling" vs. "poor" non-conference opponent seems to be minimal.

Per Logan Hansen's projections, Marietta would be a #7 national seed with winning out. That includes a non-conference win over a likely 3-7 St. John Fisher team. To me, this confirms that - at least in a stronger league like the OAC - your non-conference opponent doesn't need to pack much punch.

you are not wrong. 10-0 basically equals a top 8 seed in most years.  Schedule doesn't really matter, just play ten D3 games and win them all

Quote from: mc1983 on November 01, 2024, 12:15:54 AMWith NPI, am I wrong in thinking that Mount (or anyone) has little incentive to schedule challenging teams going forward? It just doesn't seem to be worth the risk.

Under the new selection process, your goal is really just to finish 9-1 or 10-0. The marginal benefit of a "good" vs. "middling" vs. "poor" non-conference opponent seems to be minimal.

Per Logan Hansen's projections, Marietta would be a #7 national seed with winning out. That includes a non-conference win over a likely 3-7 St. John Fisher team. To me, this confirms that - at least in a stronger league like the OAC - your non-conference opponent doesn't need to pack much punch.

I agree, but to play devil's advocate, with the quality of play from the OAC (or lack thereof), I'd prefer Mount be tested as early and often as possible to help them improve. I am tired of them getting into the playoffs untested.

Quote from: D3fanboy on October 31, 2024, 01:40:27 PMWe don't have any strip mall "colleges" playing football in Ohio that I know of, so we can't go that route.

Then what do you call BW? 😁 i mean its the one school where you can get your nails done, get Chinese, pick up the dry cleaning and the kids, go to your class for HVAC repair then football practice and never have to change parking spaces!

Dartt Special a cookin in Beckley. That's how many so far this year?

Mount really laying it on Capital after that first quarter, a big 7-0 lead.  If last weeks offensive playbook was written on one side of an index card, this weeks was written on the inside cover of a matchbook.  No sense of wasting paper if you aren't going to use those plays. REMEMBER: You save a tree if you don't waste paper.

Williams is a home run hitter

No Rossy Moore so far is certainly something.  I swear that I saw him dressed at the coin toss

Quote from: MUC 2008 on November 02, 2024, 02:01:29 PMDartt Special a cookin in Beckley. That's how many so far this year?

Wondering if it is something about playing in "Columbus" ... Perhaps believing they need to play like the underdogs do at "The Shoe?"