NCAA TOURNAMENT 2024

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SierraFD3soccer

F&M did enough though not convincing to advance to play Conn College. Will have to step up their game.

Kuiper

HALF:  Claremont-Mudd-Scripps 0 - Oglethorpe 0

CMS had the better of the play, working intricate combination passes and quick flicks of the ball for great opportunities in front of goal, but weren't able to score.  Oglethorpe found their footing later in the half and they had a ball off the post and several other dangerous chances.  Game ended with CMS ahead on shots just barely (7-5 and 3-2 on goal).

Bucket

Quote from: Hopkins92 on November 16, 2024, 04:40:25 PMNESCAC goes 7-1 in the first round, with the only loss coming in PKs to the host.

Centennial goes 3-1, with the Muhles going down to Stevens. They were playing for the reward of meeting Amherst tomorrow, so...

Actually, NESCAC went 8-0 in the first round.

The Hamilton PK loss was in the second round, to the host team. (Both Hamilton and Bowdoin played/are playing Friday-Saturday games.)

Hopkins92


SierraFD3soccer

Duuuude, crazy lucky W&L, great opportunity to tie. Wow.

One thing that has been bothering me for all these games together. Which were better, the ones on grass or turf?? Comparing the games at Hop v. Conn College. Sure teams vary in ability, but ...  Grass games just seem to be incredibly choppy

Gregory Sager

North Park falls unceremoniously to lightly-regarded UW-Superior, 1-0, in Northfield, MN. The Yellowjackets certainly didn't look like any UMAC team I've ever seen; their passing was crisp, their shape immaculate in the back, midfield, and up front as well, and they did a better job of negotiating the 20-to-25 mph wind than did the Vikings, both when they had the wind at their backs and when it was in their face. In fact, they scored the lone goal against the wind, as they did a great job of keeping the ball on the ground in the attacking third.

NPU put on a lot of pressure, especially late, but the UWS GK Paredes was outstanding. NPU just didn't seem to have the necessary precision on services into the box, as, again, the Yellowjackets really read the wind better all day.

A very disappointing loss for NPU, but the Vikings will be back. They only lose two starters: grad student M Josse Blindheim, who missed this game due to a red card, and CB Teo Helm. The Vikings were without their All-Region CB this season, grad student Christian Vaaland, so getting him back next season will certainly make up for the loss of the estimable Helm.

Next season's a long way away, though, as the Vikings will have nine months' worth of sour taste in their mouths. Kudos to the Yellowjackets, though, and best of luck to them as they take on homestanding St. Olaf tomorrow.
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

Kuiper

#201
Quote from: Bucket on November 16, 2024, 04:51:34 PM
Quote from: Hopkins92 on November 16, 2024, 04:40:25 PMNESCAC goes 7-1 in the first round, with the only loss coming in PKs to the host.

Centennial goes 3-1, with the Muhles going down to Stevens. They were playing for the reward of meeting Amherst tomorrow, so...

Actually, NESCAC went 8-0 in the first round.

The Hamilton PK loss was in the second round, to the host team. (Both Hamilton and Bowdoin played/are playing Friday-Saturday games.)

I don't have a horse in this race, but isn't an 8-0 record how it was supposed to go?  In other words, the only reason a team that doesn't win an AQ qualifies for the tournament is because they are very highly rated (among the top 33 teams under the NPI rankings I think this year).  That rating not only means they qualify even if they didn't do all that well in their conference, but that they will be matched against a lowly-rated AQ in the first round since the NPI uses straight rank order for seeding.  If I'm not mistaken, every single NESCAC team was the higher seed -- generally by a considerable margin -- over their opponent in the first round. 

In other words, if your concern is that some teams qualify because of conference strength under the NPI ratings, then you should also be worried that they are seeded too high and have easier first round (and possibly later) matchups for the same reason.   Hamilton had probably the hardest 1st round NESCAC matchup v. Calvin (#30 v. #58), but that's because they were the NESCAC closest to the cut line.

Bucket

Quote from: Kuiper on November 16, 2024, 05:09:48 PM
Quote from: Bucket on November 16, 2024, 04:51:34 PM
Quote from: Hopkins92 on November 16, 2024, 04:40:25 PMNESCAC goes 7-1 in the first round, with the only loss coming in PKs to the host.

Centennial goes 3-1, with the Muhles going down to Stevens. They were playing for the reward of meeting Amherst tomorrow, so...

Actually, NESCAC went 8-0 in the first round.

The Hamilton PK loss was in the second round, to the host team. (Both Hamilton and Bowdoin played/are playing Friday-Saturday games.)

I don't have a horse in this race, but isn't an 8-0 record how it was supposed to go?  In other words, the only reason a team that doesn't win an AQ qualifies for the tournament is because they are very highly rated (among the top 32 teams under the NPI rankings this year).  That rating not only means they qualify even if they didn't do all that well in their conference, but that they will be matched against a lowly-rated AQ in the first round since the NPI uses straight rank order for seeding.  If I'm not mistaken, every single NESCAC team was the higher seed -- generally by a considerable margin -- over their opponent in the first round. 

In other words, if your concern is that some teams qualify because of conference strength under the NPI ratings, then you should also be worried that they are seeded too high and have easier first round (and possibly later) matchups for the same reason.

I'm not sure anyone said any different. I was simply correcting Hop, who mistakenly said the NESCAC went 7-1 in the first round.

Kuiper

CMS 1 - Oglethorpe 0

After surviving a flurry in front of the CMS net, John Laidlaw scores on a counter in the 79th minute to take a lead in the late stages of this game. 

Kuiper

#204
Quote from: Bucket on November 16, 2024, 05:16:12 PM
Quote from: Kuiper on November 16, 2024, 05:09:48 PM
Quote from: Bucket on November 16, 2024, 04:51:34 PM
Quote from: Hopkins92 on November 16, 2024, 04:40:25 PMNESCAC goes 7-1 in the first round, with the only loss coming in PKs to the host.

Centennial goes 3-1, with the Muhles going down to Stevens. They were playing for the reward of meeting Amherst tomorrow, so...

Actually, NESCAC went 8-0 in the first round.

The Hamilton PK loss was in the second round, to the host team. (Both Hamilton and Bowdoin played/are playing Friday-Saturday games.)

I don't have a horse in this race, but isn't an 8-0 record how it was supposed to go?  In other words, the only reason a team that doesn't win an AQ qualifies for the tournament is because they are very highly rated (among the top 32 teams under the NPI rankings this year).  That rating not only means they qualify even if they didn't do all that well in their conference, but that they will be matched against a lowly-rated AQ in the first round since the NPI uses straight rank order for seeding.  If I'm not mistaken, every single NESCAC team was the higher seed -- generally by a considerable margin -- over their opponent in the first round. 

In other words, if your concern is that some teams qualify because of conference strength under the NPI ratings, then you should also be worried that they are seeded too high and have easier first round (and possibly later) matchups for the same reason.

I'm not sure anyone said any different. I was simply correcting Hop, who mistakenly said the NESCAC went 7-1 in the first round.

That wasn't really a response to you, but rather to the implication that this was anything other than what you would expect given the seeding.  It's not as if NESCAC schools overperformed in the first round.  I think Vassar, Messiah, Wisconsin-Superior, and Stevens are the only upsets thus far.

Kuiper

#205
CMS 2 - Oglethorpe 0

Great big cross from James Gomez is headed in by Liam Hall at the back post to double the lead in the 82nd minute.  This may be where the minutes are catching up to some tired players.  The coaches have ridden the starters pretty hard.  Hall's energy may have been a result of the fact that he came off the bench.

UPDATE:  Oglethorpe has a PK chance in the 86th minute but the shooter skies it over the bar.  That may have been hurt by an injury suffered by Levy, who seems like he may have been their regular PK taker.  Still 2-0.

Mr_November

Otterbein down 1-0 to W&L with 10 minutes to go.

Kuiper

FINAL:  CMS 2 - Oglethorpe 0

Pretty even game, but CMS had a bit more quality and was able to finally convert in the final third at the end of the game.

It will be interesting how well CMS recovers for tomorrow's game against Colorado College.  CMS played 9 of its starters between 78-90 minutes.  Of course, since CMS is at the foothills of the San Gabriel Mountains, maybe they trained up there all week in preparation!

Mr_November

Westfield have opened the scoring vs Tufts!

SierraFD3soccer

Quote from: Mr_November on November 16, 2024, 06:10:28 PMWestfield have opened the scoring vs Tufts!

Nice goal on big mistake by Tufts. Umm not quite 8-0 yet.