Marietta to play Westminster in the Bowl Game:

https://northcoast.org/news/2024/11/17/football-inaugural-opendorse-bowl-series-match-ups-released.aspx

Quote from: purple on November 17, 2024, 07:19:40 PMDo some of you really think the U.M.U.Administration will change football coaches? Quit drinking, stop using drugs, and get into see a good counselor. You need some reality therapy. Perhaps you malcontents have a suggestion as to who the new coach should be? I'd like to hear that. Any of you ever play on an undefeated team?  Any of you coached a team to an undefeated record? Are a lot of you in-demand to fill coordinator positions? No?

Off the top of my head I think Mike Sirianni, Kevin Burke  or Erik Raeburn would be good fits.

But yes it's super unlikely they'd get rid of Dartt, especially if he keeps bringing in large freshman classes, which are pretty much all administration likely cares about.

Quote from: WRMUalum13 on November 18, 2024, 01:05:22 PM

Quote from: purple on November 17, 2024, 07:19:40 PMDo some of you really think the U.M.U.Administration will change football coaches? Quit drinking, stop using drugs, and get into see a good counselor. You need some reality therapy. Perhaps you malcontents have a suggestion as to who the new coach should be? I'd like to hear that. Any of you ever play on an undefeated team?  Any of you coached a team to an undefeated record? Are a lot of you in-demand to fill coordinator positions? No?

Off the top of my head I think Mike Sirianni, Kevin Burke  or Erik Raeburn would be good fits.

But yes it's super unlikely they'd get rid of Dartt, especially if he keeps bringing in large freshman classes, which are pretty much all administration likely cares about.

an OC would be a great start. Being a head coach alone is a very demanding job, but HC and coordinator is a tall, tall task.  It started out with GD up in the booth as a HC/OC, then he came back down to the sidelines.  Then they had Jasper as OC for an offseason, until he left for a tremendous opportunity with the NFL.  He came back, but GD is still the play-caller. 

Speaking of play-calling, an advantage that Mount may have in a JCU rematch is that the Raiders will likely be running a much different offense.  Both teams are very different from the September matchup, but Mount can watch the film of JCU's transformation.  Mount will be a much different offense than the Beaudrie-led rushing attack that run around/over/through JCU.  Nobody really knows what the Mount offense/tendencies will really look like in two weeks.  Will it be the same RPO middle, RPO middle followed by a WR screen? or something completely different?

JCU started the dink-dunk/quick passing attack on Mount's defense that has been used against them all season.  I would not imagine that changing up much, although JCU's offense seems to be a little better now than back then. 

Quote from: HScoach on November 18, 2024, 10:55:36 AMMount's quadrant is weak.  I could see a scenario where half of the teams could make it to the semifinals.

The plug on The Machine was pulled when Larry retired.  The momentum carried the program thru the VK years.  It's now dead and will need to be rebuilt if another title is to ever be won. The lack of quality depth in the OAC is what's kept them as league champs. 

And with JCU leaving this obviously only gets even worse.  Unless the wheels completely fall off the Raider wagon I just don't see who is going to challenge them for the OAC title consistently going forward.  Etta has a strong squad, but can they sustain it after this core graduates?  Hopefully because someone needs to push Mount in JCU's absence.

Quote from: Dr. Acula on November 18, 2024, 01:23:42 PM

Quote from: HScoach on November 18, 2024, 10:55:36 AMMount's quadrant is weak.  I could see a scenario where half of the teams could make it to the semifinals.

The plug on The Machine was pulled when Larry retired.  The momentum carried the program thru the VK years.  It's now dead and will need to be rebuilt if another title is to ever be won. The lack of quality depth in the OAC is what's kept them as league champs. 

And with JCU leaving this obviously only gets even worse.  Unless the wheels completely fall off the Raider wagon I just don't see who is going to challenge them for the OAC title consistently going forward.  Etta has a strong squad, but can they sustain it after this core graduates?  Hopefully because someone needs to push Mount in JCU's absence.

I think this factor is a little overrated, when I was at Mount from 2009-2013, JCU was a mediocre to flat out bad team. And Mount had 4 straight Stagg Bowl Appearances and 1 win during that era.

Quote from: WRMUalum13 on November 18, 2024, 01:45:33 PM

Quote from: Dr. Acula on November 18, 2024, 01:23:42 PM

Quote from: HScoach on November 18, 2024, 10:55:36 AMMount's quadrant is weak.  I could see a scenario where half of the teams could make it to the semifinals.

The plug on The Machine was pulled when Larry retired.  The momentum carried the program thru the VK years.  It's now dead and will need to be rebuilt if another title is to ever be won. The lack of quality depth in the OAC is what's kept them as league champs. 

And with JCU leaving this obviously only gets even worse.  Unless the wheels completely fall off the Raider wagon I just don't see who is going to challenge them for the OAC title consistently going forward.  Etta has a strong squad, but can they sustain it after this core graduates?  Hopefully because someone needs to push Mount in JCU's absence.

I think this factor is a little overrated, when I was at Mount from 2009-2013, JCU was a mediocre to flat out bad team. And Mount had 4 straight Stagg Bowl Appearances and 1 win during that era.

Capital, ONU, Heidy, even OTT filled in as the couple of above average OAC teams those years.  But those Mount teams pushed each other more in practice than most of the OAC teams week to week.  Having upperclassmen who actually won something hold "a standard" for the younger players probably was key.  Instead of having a team of players who act like they have won anything due to the "Raiders" on their chest, those teams actually had champions on the team that raised the bar week to week.

those were the dark years at Mount in terms of QB play too.  Leipold and the lack of QB at Mount are the main reasons LK didn't win 15+ and D3FB as a whole would likely be in a whole different spot.

Quote from: HScoach on November 18, 2024, 10:55:36 AMMount's quadrant is weak.  I could see a scenario where half of the teams could make it to the semifinals.

The plug on The Machine was pulled when Larry retired.  The momentum carried the program thru the VK years.  It's now dead and will need to be rebuilt if another title is to ever be won. The lack of quality depth in the OAC is what's kept them as league champs. 

Nice to see you, HSCoach.

Next Mount will line up against Wheaton and Grove City.  Also an improved O North and BW could be competitive. 

A)  Mount Union will not fire a coach who hasn't lost a conference game in his tenure.  Also, in 5 years, he had Covid year, Stagg Bowl year, Semi final year early out year and this year.  All of that said, he has had success.  Not the same as we're all used to, but success nonetheless.

B)  I'm not a big fan of the likely rematch, but Mount has fared well against conference opponents in the past, and I don't expect anything different.  There were a lot of mistakes in the first game that could be corrected, mostly on defense. 

C)  I think the biggest issues with this team is execution and game plan.  The players and coaches need to stick to their assignments as drawn up.  Then if that is not working, adjustments need to be made.  I think sometimes the correct defense might be called, but missed tackles or missed coverages make it look worse than it is.  So, either simplify the coverage, or change completely it to make it smoother.  An overhaul is not needed, just some more consistency. 

D)  The Otterbein game stands out to me as an anomaly more than this game against Muskingum.  Muskingum has been a solid offense for several years now.  I think Mount was a little to high on the horse and got caught. 

the D3football guys seem to think that its possible for Beaudrie to suit up with a brace in two weeks...interesting times

Quote from: D3fanboy on November 18, 2024, 04:45:43 PMthe D3football guys seem to think that its possible for Beaudrie to suit up with a brace in two weeks...interesting times

That's based on what we've been able to find out.

Everything I read on here gives JC a free pass to the second round and a rematch with Mount.  Didn't see anything about if the Purple Raiders have to play Mount St Joes.
Don't they still have to play the game against Mount St Joseph this Saturday?  Don't think they are just going to lay down because their opponent happens to be JC.

Quote from: Captainred81 on November 18, 2024, 04:15:57 PMNext Mount will line up against Wheaton and Grove City.  Also an improved O North and BW could be competitive. 

A)  Mount Union will not fire a coach who hasn't lost a conference game in his tenure.  Also, in 5 years, he had Covid year, Stagg Bowl year, Semi final year early out year and this year.  All of that said, he has had success.  Not the same as we're all used to, but success nonetheless.

B)  I'm not a big fan of the likely rematch, but Mount has fared well against conference opponents in the past, and I don't expect anything different.  There were a lot of mistakes in the first game that could be corrected, mostly on defense. 

C)  I think the biggest issues with this team is execution and game plan.  The players and coaches need to stick to their assignments as drawn up.  Then if that is not working, adjustments need to be made.  I think sometimes the correct defense might be called, but missed tackles or missed coverages make it look worse than it is.  So, either simplify the coverage, or change completely it to make it smoother.  An overhaul is not needed, just some more consistency. 

D)  The Otterbein game stands out to me as an anomaly more than this game against Muskingum.  Muskingum has been a solid offense for several years now.  I think Mount was a little to high on the horse and got caught.

Ohio Northern was improved, not BW. They were not as successful offensively as the last two years overall and particularly vs the top 3. Their defense improved slightly this year, but they played a weak OOC opponent and the OAC was as weak as it's been in forever, yet they were destroyed by Marietta and MTU, unlike the prior two years and choked v JCU as always. They will not be competitive in any way next year.

As Lee Corso used to say, "Not so fast my friend". ONU suffered injuries all season long at the QB position. They Started a 3rd unit freshman against Marietta. They were competitive against MTU into the 4th quarter. The starting QB got knocked out of the game against BW as he was crossing the goal line and fumbled through the enzone which ultimately cost them the game.

They have enhanced their facilities and this year Coach Fries has a full year to recruit. Maybe I am wrong but I think if they can stay healthy at the OB position they will surprise some people next year. Time will tell.

Quote from: D3fanboy on November 18, 2024, 02:56:32 PM

Quote from: WRMUalum13 on November 18, 2024, 01:45:33 PM

Quote from: Dr. Acula on November 18, 2024, 01:23:42 PM

Quote from: HScoach on November 18, 2024, 10:55:36 AMMount's quadrant is weak.  I could see a scenario where half of the teams could make it to the semifinals.

The plug on The Machine was pulled when Larry retired.  The momentum carried the program thru the VK years.  It's now dead and will need to be rebuilt if another title is to ever be won. The lack of quality depth in the OAC is what's kept them as league champs. 

And with JCU leaving this obviously only gets even worse.  Unless the wheels completely fall off the Raider wagon I just don't see who is going to challenge them for the OAC title consistently going forward.  Etta has a strong squad, but can they sustain it after this core graduates?  Hopefully because someone needs to push Mount in JCU's absence.

I think this factor is a little overrated, when I was at Mount from 2009-2013, JCU was a mediocre to flat out bad team. And Mount had 4 straight Stagg Bowl Appearances and 1 win during that era.

Capital, ONU, Heidy, even OTT filled in as the couple of above average OAC teams those years.  But those Mount teams pushed each other more in practice than most of the OAC teams week to week.  Having upperclassmen who actually won something hold "a standard" for the younger players probably was key.  Instead of having a team of players who act like they have won anything due to the "Raiders" on their chest, those teams actually had champions on the team that raised the bar week to week.

those were the dark years at Mount in terms of QB play too.  Leipold and the lack of QB at Mount are the main reasons LK didn't win 15+ and D3FB as a whole would likely be in a whole different spot.

I think you're just talking about 2010 and 2011 regarding QB play because 2009 we had Kurt Rocco who went on to play Arena Football and had a solid season and 2012 we had Burke winning a Stagg Bowl.

Quote from: Fido0650 on November 18, 2024, 07:09:02 PMEverything I read on here gives JC a free pass to the second round and a rematch with Mount.  Didn't see anything about if the Purple Raiders have to play Mount St Joes.
Don't they still have to play the game against Mount St Joseph this Saturday?  Don't think they are just going to lay down because their opponent happens to be JC.

Yeah this is the OAC boards! Of course we're going to assume the heavily favored OAC team is gonna win and give us an OAC round 2 matchup.