UR is hiring an OC.  Looks like Coach Good saved his job for at least another year.

Redlands OC Job

No doubt that having another full-time hand in recruiting will make a difference. But by the time this guy gets on campus and really is able to jump in this class will be mostly finished so you are likely 2 years away from any real impact on that front. And the idea that the reason Redlands is 12-18 over the last three seasons is because the HC, who used to be the OC, is calling plays is totally absurd. Jim Good is calling the same plays he was calling when Redlands was winning the league under Coach Maynard. Trust me, the exact same plays.

Anyone who follows Redlands football knows the real problem here. Hiring a new OC to install a new system and call different plays for a program that has lost its identity and culture is the ultimate deck chair move.

But at least it saves Jeff Martinez from actually having to do any work for the last 6 months of his career and punts the real hard stuff to the first year AD they'll have next year. I'm sure Pomona and CMS are thrilled.

Quote from: that guy 31 on December 06, 2024, 02:01:04 AMJim Good is calling the same plays he was calling when Redlands was winning the league under Coach Maynard. Trust me, the exact same plays.

Can't tell if you are identifying that as part of the problem or not but it sure sounds like part of the problem.  If you don't innovate, you don't keep winning.

Let's identify the issues with UR, it has been first and foremost our O line. Defense has played well the last 10 years, we continue to get a couple studs up front and good backers. If you follow PP and CMS getting better is all has stemmed from getting better up front, those schools up front were bad, especially PP. A good front makes average backs look good. Good backs are "mid" with a poor front. In the last 10 years there have been two really good back
Doe and Sparks...who did well with average fronts.
Chapman takes a different path in regards to the O line and I agree I would take a smaller, quicker guy over short and heavy. 

The second issue has been does Good have enough time to devote to the offense. The answer is a clear no, so the new OC will be able to roll out his offense in spring ball and we should see some new looks. We have two huge needs in the off season, QB and O line....

Mediocrity is accepted at Redlands. That's the only message being sent by keeping Jim Good as head coach.

With the Stagg Bowl last night, will we ever see a SCIAC team make a run?  Oxy did 20 years ago.  I think some UR teams could have had they not had to play Linfield or St John's in the first round.  Better questions might be, will the SCIAC ever win a football playoff game again? 

Quote from: 10Freeway on January 06, 2025, 12:47:00 PMWith the Stagg Bowl last night, will we ever see a SCIAC team make a run?  Oxy did 20 years ago.  I think some UR teams could have had they not had to play Linfield or St John's in the first round.  Better questions might be, will the SCIAC ever win a football playoff game again?

North Central and Mount Union are on a different level on the field because academic standards at those schools are not nearly as restrictive as most SCIAC schools.  Most athletes at those schools could not get into the Claremont schools, Chapman, ect...

I have been to North Central, nice school and facilities, sorta of Chapman vibe with fun downtown around the corner from the school, plenty of bars, shops etc all walking distance...I agree with Doc, its really apples and oranges, throw in cost of these schools too. NCC is in a sweet spot, only real comp is Wheaton in the area too. The rest of the schools in Il. are a notch below NCC...

I still think the NY and Wisc state schools have the greatest advantage.

In regards to the game there seemed to be a lot Sh...t talking going on, not the norm for SCIAC games. I guess two 14-0 teams that will happen. I am surprised NCC qb did not move up and transfer earlier in his career.
I was also surprise MU offensive line was not all 300# across the board too. This was a smaller MU team, bigger than SCIAC schools but not a big as I thought.

Quote from: Dr. Doolittle on January 06, 2025, 06:42:17 PM

Quote from: 10Freeway on January 06, 2025, 12:47:00 PMWith the Stagg Bowl last night, will we ever see a SCIAC team make a run?  Oxy did 20 years ago.  I think some UR teams could have had they not had to play Linfield or St John's in the first round.  Better questions might be, will the SCIAC ever win a football playoff game again?

North Central and Mount Union are on a different level on the field because academic standards at those schools are not nearly as restrictive as most SCIAC schools.  Most athletes at those schools could not get into the Claremont schools, Chapman, ect...

Johns Hopkins and Carnegie Mellon seem to be able to compete at a national level in Division III football.

Compete does not mean win it all and or have a chance in my opinion. Those two schools have very generous endowment programs much like CMS and PP in the SCIAC...

Last ten years finalist

NCC, MHB, Cortland, MU, WW, St Thomas, W-O & the Virus one year

Go back between years 11-20...MU,MHB,WW, St Thomas...

Six schools in 20 years had a shot , and Cortland and WO were a one year wonder and St. Thomas moved up ...

The rest are just having nice seasons, top 20 teams...but no chance of winning it all

Unlike FBS

Quote from: 10Freeway on January 06, 2025, 12:47:00 PMWith the Stagg Bowl last night, will we ever see a SCIAC team make a run?  Oxy did 20 years ago.  I think some UR teams could have had they not had to play Linfield or St John's in the first round.  Better questions might be, will the SCIAC ever win a football playoff game again? 

Highly doubtful. The SCIAC programs have historically had problems recruiting offensive linemen, and that's the difference maker once you get to the playoffs. Redlands could neither run or pass block this season, and honestly with the weather and lifestyle offerings of SoCal, they should be recruiting the Midwest solely for the position.

RBF, going to the Midwest would be tough, I doubt the school would even budget for a coach to go there.
Plus CA private colleges are about 15 percent more than Midwest, so sticker shock will be an issue too.
However I do agree we could find some players all we need is a couple linemen, very much like we get a fair share of Washington kids wanting to get out of the rain.

When I was at the UR/PLU game (at PLU) a while back, I was amazed at how many fans we had, 300 to 400 on our side, so we  get our share of Washington student.

Quote from: olddog on January 07, 2025, 08:21:29 PMRBF, going to the Midwest would be tough, I doubt the school would even budget for a coach to go there.
Plus CA private colleges are about 15 percent more than Midwest, so sticker shock will be an issue too.
However I do agree we could find some players all we need is a couple linemen, very much like we get a fair share of Washington kids wanting to get out of the rain.

When I was at the UR/PLU game (at PLU) a while back, I was amazed at how many fans we had, 300 to 400 on our side, so we  get our share of Washington student.

The Midwest is large geographically and there are plenty of families with deep pockets that could afford the tuition. Also, some of those lineman go to WIAC and other local conferences and sit for a year or two when they could come to Redlands and start day one as freshman. That should be the sell along with the sunshine and SoCal school experience.

People in the Midwest do not want to move to CA let alone go to school there.  That is the big issue even USC is dealing with currently.  California costs too much in general.

Quote from: 10Freeway on January 08, 2025, 11:07:00 AMPeople in the Midwest do not want to move to CA let alone go to school there.  That is the big issue even USC is dealing with currently.  California costs too much in general.

I hate to point out the obvious, but in agreement with you, people from the mid-west do not like the liberal education and attitudes in CA!