Quote from: Ice Bear on December 14, 2024, 02:52:50 PMBethel down 3 with 5 seconds left, they throw it to the end zone, and score to win the game on the very last play...only to be erased by a ****ing holding call at the LOS. What a ****ing Homer call if I'VE EVER SEEN ONE. Let the players decide the game. Bethel players did, Susquehanna players gave up a TD on the last play of the game and were completely bailed out by the officials.

Well...was it a hold?

Quote from: Ice Bear on December 14, 2024, 02:52:50 PMBethel down 3 with 5 seconds left, they throw it to the end zone, and score to win the game on the very last play...only to be erased by a ****ing holding call at the LOS. What a ****ing Homer call if I'VE EVER SEEN ONE. Let the players decide the game. Bethel players did, Susquehanna players gave up a TD on the last play of the game and were completely bailed out by the officials.

Yeah, but it was pretty blantant, and the DE get held by both the tackle and the RB. No way Bethel QB has time to throw that ball but for the hold. I'm ok with it. 

Bummed to see Springfield waste an incredible defensive effort.  Just couldn't score, and lost all composure in the fourth. 

It is interesting as I've seen a few Hail Mary type plays at all levels of football the past few years where the refs are not calling any holding on 3 man rushes like the one in this game.  And this was a hold, but if he wasn't held he still was not making a play.  I think the refs could have let this one slide.

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Sasquatch is real, it is alive

Quote from: Machiavelli on December 14, 2024, 03:39:58 PM

Quote from: Ice Bear on December 14, 2024, 02:52:50 PMBethel down 3 with 5 seconds left, they throw it to the end zone, and score to win the game on the very last play...only to be erased by a ****ing holding call at the LOS. What a ****ing Homer call if I'VE EVER SEEN ONE. Let the players decide the game. Bethel players did, Susquehanna players gave up a TD on the last play of the game and were completely bailed out by the officials.

Well...was it a hold?

Yes...   and upon reviewing it, while I don't think the call matched the way the game was called all day, a penalty is a penalty. That's good enough for me.

Interesting, there were two Hobart grads playing in the Hopkins/MHB game.. Hopkins(Connor Gunn, DE, injured) and MHB(Rane Daramola, WR , 1 catch for 7 yards).

Great to see two Eastern teams in the final four. NCC looks totally dominant in all phases of the game, but hey, the Riverhawks have enough talent to have a chance. Go Sasquatch!
Hopkins looks strong enough to beat Mount Union, but the Purple Raiders look like they are peaking at the right time and will be the favorite.

Quote from: Bartman on December 14, 2024, 06:50:40 PMGreat to see two Eastern teams in the final four. NCC looks totally dominant in all phases of the game, but hey, the Riverhawks have enough talent to have a chance. Go Sasquatch!
Hopkins looks strong enough to beat Mount Union, but the Purple Raiders look like they are peaking at the right time and will be the favorite.

I'm taking Squatch over NCC.  NCC offense was not impressive at all against a defense that I think was good but not great.  Springfield was very handicapped by being so one dimensional on offense, a problem Squatch doesn't have.

Think JHU will run out of magic dust against the Purple Football Factory, alas.  And the Squatch beats em for our second straight R2 natty. 

I'm very impressed with Springfield's run this season. Is it me or is this run yet another example of the improved parity in D3 football. Can you imagine a Springfield team from 10/15 years ago playing the number 1 team in the nation? It would have been a massacre IMHO.

Would LOVE to see the Usual Sus win it all!

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Quote from: Bartman on December 14, 2024, 06:50:40 PMGreat to see two Eastern teams in the final four. NCC looks totally dominant in all phases of the game, but hey, the Riverhawks have enough talent to have a chance. Go Sasquatch!
Hopkins looks strong enough to beat Mount Union, but the Purple Raiders look like they are peaking at the right time and will be the favorite.

I'm taking Squatch over NCC.  NCC offense was not impressive at all against a defense that I think was good but not great.  Springfield was very handicapped by being so one dimensional on offense, a problem Squatch doesn't have.

Think JHU will run out of magic dust against the Purple Football Factory, alas.  And the Squatch beats em for our second straight R2 natty. 

Agree Sasquatch has a better chance against NCC than Springfield. I'm rooting for either of the Eastern Birds to win it all. This playoff season has been very entertaining. 

Quote from: Jonny Utah on December 14, 2024, 04:08:09 PMIt is interesting as I've seen a few Hail Mary type plays at all levels of football the past few years where the refs are not calling any holding on 3 man rushes like the one in this game.  And this was a hold, but if he wasn't held he still was not making a play.  I think the refs could have let this one slide.

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True, but what a blatant hold, the DE's jersey was getting pulled off.  Just block your man!

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Quote from: Jonny Utah on December 14, 2024, 04:08:09 PMIt is interesting as I've seen a few Hail Mary type plays at all levels of football the past few years where the refs are not calling any holding on 3 man rushes like the one in this game.  And this was a hold, but if he wasn't held he still was not making a play.  I think the refs could have let this one slide.

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True, but what a blatant hold, the DE's jersey was getting pulled off.  Just block your man!

The Hold was obvious.The Bethel coach was not realistic in the post game interview. I even agree with Frank Rossi, so it must be true. The Sasquatch victory should not be tainted by the Bethel faithful complaints .

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Quote from: Oline89 on December 15, 2024, 03:35:12 PM

Quote from: Jonny Utah on December 14, 2024, 04:08:09 PMIt is interesting as I've seen a few Hail Mary type plays at all levels of football the past few years where the refs are not calling any holding on 3 man rushes like the one in this game.  And this was a hold, but if he wasn't held he still was not making a play.  I think the refs could have let this one slide.

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True, but what a blatant hold, the DE's jersey was getting pulled off.  Just block your man!

The Hold was obvious.The Bethel coach was not realistic in the post game interview. I even agree with Frank Rossi, so it must be true. The Sasquatch victory should not be tainted by the Bethel faithful complaints .

Amen to that. I understand all the Bethel fans whining on Twitter, it's a tough way to lose, but the coach's remarks were wildly off base.

What's funny is that it has overshadowed the ridiculous mistake the Squatch coach made taking a timeout before the fourth down play, instead of letting it run down to a few seconds.  That fourth down TD absolutely should have the play of the game; that Bethel even had a final drive was a massive gift to them.

I will definitely be rooting for Squatch next week, mostly because I can't stand the NCC fan base; everything is conspiracy against the poor little Cardinals in their world.

I just watched the video, it was a blatant hold and a good call. B!tch all you want about the timing of the call, the hold was obvious and that should be called, hard stop.

That said, it was a pretty atrocious defensive call and play on the field on that down. Hail Mary's happen, but they shouldn't happen with a guy wide open in the front corner of the endzone with 8 guys playing deep.

If that one bro didn't chuck his helmet after the play, maybe they could've had another decent shot a second time around.

Quote from: Machiavelli on December 16, 2024, 03:29:02 PMI just watched the video, it was a blatant hold and a good call. B!tch all you want about the timing of the call, the hold was obvious and that should be called, hard stop.

That said, it was a pretty atrocious defensive call and play on the field on that down. Hail Mary's happen, but they shouldn't happen with a guy wide open in the front corner of the endzone with 8 guys playing deep.

If that one bro didn't chuck his helmet after the play, maybe they could've had another decent shot a second time around.

That kid was fired up! If I was on that field and a member of the Bethel team, I would have been fired up as hell. I could hardly control myself on a ****ing message board lol.

With all that said I fully agree with everything said here. I was certainly annoyed at the time but it most certainly was a hold and it was called. If the player didn't hold, it wouldn't have been called. Tough loss and tough for the kid who committed the penalty. The line is a tough spot and no one wants to give up a sack on the last play of the game. However you can't go "hockey jersey" on the dlineman. That **** will and should get called.

At the end of the day it was an excellent season for Bethel not allowing the TWO losses to SJU derail them and trusting the process. Rooting for the Usual Sus BIG TIME this weekend! That is one hell of an offense!