Quote from: nescac1 on April 09, 2025, 04:45:20 PMTwo more big D3 additions to the portal today: Elias Rodl from Brandeis and Christian Green from Trinity (TX). 

If Rodl and Edwards transfer, Brandeis may prove to be the biggest loser in the portal this season.

In the four years since the pandemic, Brandeis has been been one of the more successful programs in terms of retaining fifth year players and recruiting graduate students.

The three UAA teams who relied so heavily on the portal could all be in quite a bit of trouble.  With no more COVID years, there will be very few guys who have played four years and are available as fifth-year grad students, and I suspect that most high-level impact players who are looking to transfer prior to graduating will be aiming for scholarships. 

Brandeis (which seemed to have underachieved a bit given the talent on hand last year) is looking at potentially being down its top five scorers; Case (which had a rough year even with the talent on hand) is going to be down five of its top six; and NYU, potentially its top SEVEN scorers.  NYU I agree will probably have the easiest time rebuilding so long as Klatsky sticks around (and he may as a lot of the jobs he was in the mix for seem to have filled up), after making the national title game and with all the advantages NYU has to offer recruits.  Still, Spencer Freedmans and Tristan Hows don't grow on trees and the odds of striking gold like that again are pretty low, and again, it's hard to imagine even NYU bringing in 5 high level transfers at once now that the COVID year era is over.  I could see NYU (especially) or Case each bringing in a couple of impactful guys, but nothing like the full all-star teams they've been able to attract largely from guys who played four years already elsewhere. 

The other issue for these three teams is that they haven't been spending the last few years developing younger players so it's not like underclassmen on the roster are as ready to just step in right away.  The UAA tourney teams who haven't relied much on the portal - WashU, UChicago, and Emory - seem really well set up for next year and the future, as all have a lot of key players who have been making a big impact since their first year on campus. 

NESCAC (which of course has been doing just fine the last two years as-is) is also a beneficiary of the end of the COVID era, given how few graduate programs NESCAC schools can offer and how tight many of them are with transfer admissions in any event.  I don't think any NESCAC team has gotten a major impact from a graduate transfer during the entire COVID era.  And the NESCAC schools have done a very good job of keeping their guys around for four years of late - ironically, it was the era before mass transfers for everyone else that NESCAC schools really got hurt by guys leaving (Duncan Robinson, Austin Hutcherson, Matt Hart, Hunter Sabety, etc.).  So far, this year seems to be no different, as the only NESCAC player I've seen in the portal is Shane Regan, and he was a senior with an injury redshirt year.  Some of the top players who I think could have easily gone D1 - Henry Vetter, Jarrel Okourogo, Ray Cuevas, maybe one or two others - SEEM to be sticking around, or at least aren't advertising an intent to move up.   

https://x.com/DevonAFielding/status/1910405940014166183?t=aLak-w_Q4hTtxHjKCRqjMA&s=19

Devon Fielding, 6'2", is transferring from Winona St to La Crosse.

I think he has 1 year left.

https://winonastatewarriors.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/devon-fielding/13301

He was All-State at La Crosse Central.

Remember, d1 removed the scholarship limits on their rosters, so there are (typically) three walk-ons at the end of every D1 bench who might be looking to come to d3 if they don't get a scholarship on their current team.

Looking back at the last few years, it seems like very few true D1 walk-ons who never earned scholarships made a significant impact upon transferring to D3.  Tristan How is obviously an example to the contrary, but I think the vast majority of impactful transfers over the past few years were either D3 stars moving between schools or guys who were originally recruited by D1 or D2 schools rather than joining a program as a pure walk-on.  I'd be very surprised if, generally speaking, transfers made close to the impact in D3 next year as they have the past few years even if there are more walk-on types joining D3 programs.  Certainly, I think it's much harder to build a powerhouse team like Case and NYU did in recent years primarily on the back of transfers (unless you are talking about a team with a lot of JUCO guys like Redlands). 

NYU definitely has NIL money to offer transfers.  I'm not sure what level that works out to be and how often than makes a difference, but it's certainly going to keep them competitive for players who can be admitted.

Wow that's crazy - I'd imagine that VERY few D3 schools have NIL money beyond what enterprising players can scrounge up themselves - most programs have no television revenue, no ticket revenue, and no or virtually no boosters, so I'm not even sure what that money would come from ...

Quote from: nescac1 on April 11, 2025, 11:31:22 AMWow that's crazy - I'd imagine that VERY few D3 schools have NIL money beyond what enterprising players can scrounge up themselves - most programs have no television revenue, no ticket revenue, and no or virtually no boosters, so I'm not even sure what that money would come from ...

You're operating in a New England/NESCAC framework.  A lot of schools around the country have large booster groups and quite a bit of ticket revenue.  Not sure too many are making much on broadcasting, but there are collectives at a lot of d3 schools that coaches use in recruiting.  We're not talking salaries like the d1 schools offer, but it can be a significant part of the consideration, like anything else in the financial aid package.

UW-Eau Clair averaged 900 per home game this year.  They charge $12/adult, $6/child for tickets.  That's a significant revenue stream - not to mention they're major sporting centers for decent sized towns.

NYU has one of the most notable (and wealthy) alumni networks in the world.  And being in one of the wealthiest cities in the world also helps.  But who wants to give to athletics?  John Paulson maybe?

I believe they have money and I believe they will continue to recruit transfers, though, as I have said before, focusing more on junior transfers and graduate transfers who redshirted as freshman and therefore have the extra year.

I do believe the new roster rule for Division I program that opt-in to the settlement may help NYU in the short term.

If Hampton Sanders returns, that may be evidence of NIL money, though we may never know for sure.

Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on April 11, 2025, 11:43:03 AMUW-Eau Claire averaged 900 per home game this year.  They charge $12/adult, $6/child for tickets.  That's a significant revenue stream - not to mention they're major sporting centers for decent sized towns.

That is an expensive ticket, but maybe that is the market.

I would be surprised if they are able to use that for anything other than covering department expenses.

Quote from: WUPHF on April 11, 2025, 01:58:21 PM

Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on April 11, 2025, 11:43:03 AMUW-Eau Claire averaged 900 per home game this year.  They charge $12/adult, $6/child for tickets.  That's a significant revenue stream - not to mention they're major sporting centers for decent sized towns.

That is an expensive ticket, but maybe that is the market.

I would be surprised if they are able to use that for anything other than covering department expenses.

I just used it as a comparison for all those schools who get $0 from ticket revenue.  A lot of people have asked how some of these schools can afford to travel so much or offer big guarantees for tournaments.  Ticket revenue makes a big difference (in addition to solid alumni/donor networks).

It's not unusual for some programs to have an alum from $15-20k for a weekend tournament across the country.  There's definitely a WIDE spectrum of resources in Division III.

Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on April 11, 2025, 11:43:03 AM

Quote from: nescac1 on April 11, 2025, 11:31:22 AMWow that's crazy - I'd imagine that VERY few D3 schools have NIL money beyond what enterprising players can scrounge up themselves - most programs have no television revenue, no ticket revenue, and no or virtually no boosters, so I'm not even sure what that money would come from ...

You're operating in a New England/NESCAC framework.  A lot of schools around the country have large booster groups and quite a bit of ticket revenue.  Not sure too many are making much on broadcasting, but there are collectives at a lot of d3 schools that coaches use in recruiting.  We're not talking salaries like the d1 schools offer, but it can be a significant part of the consideration, like anything else in the financial aid package.

UW-Eau Clair averaged 900 per home game this year.  They charge $12/adult, $6/child for tickets.  That's a significant revenue stream - not to mention they're major sporting centers for decent sized towns.

Another reference point for those wanting to know more about revenue from ticket sales. CNU basketball average attendance was 731 per home game last season.

Individual tickets are $10/chair back and $5 for general admission. I would have to say at least half of the 731 are season ticket holders.

Season ticket pricing is $100 for the ticket for the season and also you must contribute another $300 to the athletic department.  The $300 can be applied across 6 tickets in a single purchase.

Another Revenue source is football. Average attendance last year was 3,128. Single game tickets, $10, $15, $20.

Season tickets - $75 for the 5 home games, plus a $400 contribution (applied up to 6 tickets). Annual tailgate pass is $100.

There are other options for football, but I won't bore you with details of all the options.

Throw in some tailgate passes and the total for men's basketball and football, ticket revenue approaches $500,000.  I had a lot of calculations and assumptions but just edited my post. All of the above adds up to approximately $500,000 for a football and basketball season combined.

Women's basketball also charges single game tickets. The season ticket prices above include men and women games.

Add in concessions and merchandise sales at the games, it adds up fast.

UW - Eau Claire gets two transfers:

Will Boser - Concordia-St. Paul

Kenji Scales - Sioux Falls

UW-Stevens Point gets Isaiah Moore from Oakton JC. He led the team in scoring and rebounding.

Nate Tucker SR 6-5 G Trine is in the portal.  Nate was the 2nd leading sscorer for Trine - averaing 14.7 pts and 4.1 reb last season