Carthage shut out, and not by one of their top pitchers?  What's known about the guy(s) who shut them down?

As for draft news in my area, it seems the new ownership of the Vikings is trying hard to move Viking news off the police blotter and back onto the sports pages.  Trades and draft may have helped the hapless Vikes--"may" have helped.

Augustana beat Millikin 11-3 last night and then beat Dubuque 11-10 afterwards.

Looking at the box score it looks like Augie played several backups half the game yesterday. I'm not making an excuse at all, Aurora obviously deserved to win the game. I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't planned that way, but the starters were ticking Augie off so bad he pulled some of them, which many know has happened in years past in non-conference games.

Quote from: REDMENFAN on May 03, 2006, 09:50:46 AM
Looking at the box score it looks like Augie played several backups half the game yesterday. I'm not making an excuse at all, Aurora obviously deserved to win the game. I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't planned that way, but the starters were ticking Augie off so bad he pulled some of them, which many know has happened in years past in non-conference games.

I would expect that pulling some starters in such a big in-region game sent a message last night. Hopefully it shows this weekend at Millikin.

If Carthage handles Millikin this weekend and NPU takes care of Wheaton, NPU vaults into the CCIW post-season. Either way, for NPU to be in post-season contention this late is a testament to things turning around for the Vikings.

Quote from: emeritusprof on May 03, 2006, 06:33:51 AM
Carthage shut out, and not by one of their top pitchers?  What's known about the guy(s) who shut them down?

Quoting Coach Augie Schmidt IV on the May 2 Aurora Loss:  "Matt Miller stuck it to us pretty good, and we have to tip our hat to him.  We showed our inexperience by not making any adjustments to what he was doing.  We swung at pitches out of the strike zone, and we didn't have a lot to show for it.  We haven't run into a lot of pitchers like Miller who can command it and throw that well.  Aurora has a senior-laden team, and we saw a lot of these guys two years ago in the regional at Illinois Wesleyan.  They have a nice team, and hopefully, we'll get another chance to play them in a few weeks."

According to the article on Carthage's website, the pitcher who beat them improved to only 2-0 so I'm guessing he is normally a reliever.

Anybody know the in-region records versus regionally ranked and nationally ranked teams of Aurora, Carthage, and Augustana. I have a feeling that these will be the top three seeds in the NCAA regional(unless they stumble in their final weeknds and conference tourneys).

I think we can garner much more information when the first NCAA regional rankings are released either tomorrow or Friday.  Then we can try to figure out what all the records are.

However, I think Augie is about 25-7 in region

Quote from: BigPoppa on May 01, 2006, 12:51:36 PM
What are the chances of the CCIW getting three teams into the NCAAs? I am certain that they will get two, but I think that IWU has to win the tourney to get in. If IWU wins it, will Carthage and Augie both get a bid?

Does anyone know if the CCIW has ever gotten 3 teams into the tourney, or if any conference ever has?

Quote from: REDMENFAN on May 03, 2006, 07:47:28 PM

Quote from: BigPoppa on May 01, 2006, 12:51:36 PM
What are the chances of the CCIW getting three teams into the NCAAs? I am certain that they will get two, but I think that IWU has to win the tourney to get in. If IWU wins it, will Carthage and Augie both get a bid?

Does anyone know if the CCIW has ever gotten 3 teams into the tourney, or if any conference ever has?

Don't forget that there are more pool C bids than before.  As the mutual fund ads are required to say: 'past performance is no guarantee of future results'!

Quote from: REDMENFAN on May 03, 2006, 07:47:28 PM

Quote from: BigPoppa on May 01, 2006, 12:51:36 PM
What are the chances of the CCIW getting three teams into the NCAAs? I am certain that they will get two, but I think that IWU has to win the tourney to get in. If IWU wins it, will Carthage and Augie both get a bid?

Does anyone know if the CCIW has ever gotten 3 teams into the tourney, or if any conference ever has?

I don't think the CCIW has, but I think the WIAC has(Whitewater, Oshkosh and Stevens Point) in the past few seasons. The most the CCIW had in is two and that has been accomplished many times. I would expect the same this year unless IWU or the #4 seed wins the tourney. Then Carthage and Augie could both sneak in based on what happens in other conference tourneys.

Of course, we will all know a lot more when(if) the NCAA Regional Rankings come out tomorrow.

I think the Central will show:
1. Aurora (IL)
2. Carthage (WI)
3. Augustana (IL)
4. Washington (MO)
5. Central (IA)
6. IWU (IL)

1and 2 could flip based on when they ranked the teams, as of last night, I would have to put Aurora ahead of Carthage.

I think that's also what will happen as far as Carthage is concerned. Even though neither of the teams top 3 were throwing, Aurora still won and that's what the voters seem to care about most which makes it tough because this isn't basketball or football where the same starters are playing every game. I know for the most part they do, but pitching is obviously huge and can completely change the outcome of a game depending who is on the mound.

Quote from: BigPoppa on May 03, 2006, 08:11:49 PM

Quote from: REDMENFAN on May 03, 2006, 07:47:28 PM
Does anyone know if the CCIW has ever gotten 3 teams into the tourney, or if any conference ever has?

I don't think the CCIW has, but I think the WIAC has(Whitewater, Oshkosh and Stevens Point) in the past few seasons.

Actually in 1998, the WIAC sent three teams, when La Crosse, Oshkosh and Stevens Point all qualified.  Oshkosh went on to win the Regional and took 5th place in Salem with a 41-5 record.

Does anyone know if the CCIW has ever gotten 3 teams into the tourney, or if any conference ever has?

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According to the CCIW website (http://www.cciw.org/spring_baseball/cciwteamsinncaatournament.php), the conference has never sent three teams into the regional tournament.  On several occasions, two teams have made it to regionals.