Post-season geography and style of play

[ADL70]

Maj Rev I think that's Dave Merritt you're thinking of for Witt.

[K-Mack]

I think we need the input of current or recently former players who have played on new style turf in various weather conditions.

That would help.

[Major Rev]

I think we need the input of current or recently former players who have played on new style turf in various weather conditions.

That would help.

I think a coach's perspective might be good, too, but I suppose the good ones are a bit too busy to be talking on message boards!

David MERRITT - yep, he was a hoss, as we say in the South.

[K-Mack]

I think we need the input of current or recently former players who have played on new style turf in various weather conditions.

That would help.

I think a coach's perspective might be good, too, but I suppose the good ones are a bit too busy to be talking on message boards!

David MERRITT - yep, he was a hoss, as we say in the South.

Hoss was definitely one of the first new terms I learned as a Jersey kid playing in Virginia.

There's actually a chain of eateries called Hoss's, I think. I saw one en route to Shenandoah. And yes, copy geeks, that's an s-s-apostrophe-s.

[Major Rev]

Having followed the MC-UMHB game on Saturday, sounds like this week's UMHB-Whitewater game should be one of the highlights of this season.  But I don't think the game will be a test of this particular question.  hscoach would seem to indicate that Whitewater and UMHB are running similar offenses, and the weather predicitions don't seem to indicate a real test for southern players.

I'll keep pushing this question as we get deeper into the season, and we get to see some of the emerging matchups.

Would be interested in what the weather looked like at this week's Capital game ...

[Major Rev]

Irrelevant in week one ...

[Major Rev]

Perhaps this topic becomes more relevant today ...

Will be interesting to see how the icy surface and weather conditions affect the North and West regional finals ...

Will the weather make a difference?  Or will the better team simply take the game?

[smedindy]

Turnovers make the weather irrelevant.

[frank uible]

Theorem: The prevailing team is always the better team. Corollary: A truly superior team plays well under any weather and other conditions.

[smedindy]

Exceptions: When playing in totally adverse conditions (i. e. the Monday Night Game in Pittsburgh) that negates many advantages for the superior team.

In a rivalry game - all bets are off.

[frank uible]

A truly superior team wins under ANY and ALL conditions - with no excuses. Otherwise, the team is only superior when appropriate things go favorably for it. Consequently there are very few truly superior teams. Teams playing on artificial turf are not tested as to whether they can win on a muddy field, and thus it is not clear whether they are truly superior.

[smedindy]

I guess my thinking is that Pittsburgh is clearly superior to Miami, but the weather totally neutralized everything.

[K-Mack]

I tend to agree with smed on this one, but I see where Frank is coming from.

Big theoretical question at hand: Can it be true that the superior team doesn't always win, or if it doesn't always win, does that mean it wasn't superior.

What about score triangles?

What about 2005, when Mount Union lost to Ohio Northern but won the national championship, while ONU lost to two or three other teams MUC beat and didn't make the playoffs?

Can't a team be superior on a certain day but not for the whole year? Can a not-that-good team play out of its mind from time to time?

Did I just open a whole new can of worms that has little to do with weather?

[frank uible]

The champion is the champion, no matter how it got to be the champion. The use of that principle saves the winds of argument.