Does a top ten team get upset this week-end?

[wally_wabash]

Does any one know how the home team is chosen for the second and subsequent rounds?

The committee will have a conference call Sunday to decide hosts based on which advancing teams deserve it the most.  They'll use the same criteria they used to bracket and decide hosts for the first round.

They won't be moving match-ups, just choosing between the two teams for hosting duties.

deserve it the most?

Based on the selection criteria.  Basically the same way they decided who hosted the first round.  Mike DeWitt used that term on Hoopsville, so I just quoted him.  Deserve as in who put up the best resume given the selection criteria.

It seems like they should already know this.  If I'm an OWU fan and my Battling Bishops are staring down a round 2 game against Hampden Sydney in a gymnasium TBD, I don't think I'm cool with my head coach spending Sunday making travel plans for 15 other teams. 

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Does any one know how the home team is chosen for the second and subsequent rounds?

The committee will have a conference call Sunday to decide hosts based on which advancing teams deserve it the most.  They'll use the same criteria they used to bracket and decide hosts for the first round.

They won't be moving match-ups, just choosing between the two teams for hosting duties.

deserve it the most?

Based on the selection criteria.  Basically the same way they decided who hosted the first round.  Mike DeWitt used that term on Hoopsville, so I just quoted him.  Deserve as in who put up the best resume given the selection criteria.

It seems like they should already know this.  If I'm an OWU fan and my Battling Bishops are staring down a round 2 game against Hampden Sydney in a gymnasium TBD, I don't think I'm cool with my head coach spending Sunday making travel plans for 15 other teams.

They don't book the tickets.  I don't think it's that tough to choose in most cases.  I'm guessing that call takes 30 minutes at most.  Probably the toughest choices will be if two visiting teams win and have to play each other.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Does any one know how the home team is chosen for the second and subsequent rounds?

The committee will have a conference call Sunday to decide hosts based on which advancing teams deserve it the most.  They'll use the same criteria they used to bracket and decide hosts for the first round.

They won't be moving match-ups, just choosing between the two teams for hosting duties.

deserve it the most?

Based on the selection criteria.  Basically the same way they decided who hosted the first round.  Mike DeWitt used that term on Hoopsville, so I just quoted him.  Deserve as in who put up the best resume given the selection criteria.

It seems like they should already know this.  If I'm an OWU fan and my Battling Bishops are staring down a round 2 game against Hampden Sydney in a gymnasium TBD, I don't think I'm cool with my head coach spending Sunday making travel plans for 15 other teams.

But you're right - they could just rank everybody 1-4 in terms of hosting rights (or 1-3 or 1-2 if some teams didn't file to host) and let the lowest number host.  They'd still have to make that announcement though - as they would never release such rankings.  They'd also have to meet to figure out the hosting order for the following weekend once the four possible teams have been decided.

They've always met to decide on sectional hosting after the first weekend in the past - this isn't any different, there's just a few more games.

It would be interesting to see if two teams who didn't file end up paired up.  What would they do?

Anyone have a list of teams who filed to host to see if this is a possibility?

[SevenTen]

It would be interesting to see if two teams who didn't file end up paired up.  What would they do?

Anyone have a list of teams who filed to host to see if this is a possibility?

Yeah that's a very good question.  I know Coach DeWitt said only 37 teams put in to host.  Meaning almost all of the non hosts in the first round didn't file at all.  What if there's two upsets in the same spot in the bracket?  Dave or Pat..  you guys know?

[FCGrizzliesGrad]

It would be interesting to see if two teams who didn't file end up paired up.  What would they do?

Anyone have a list of teams who filed to host to see if this is a possibility?

Yeah that's a very good question.  I know Coach DeWitt said only 37 teams put in to host.  Meaning almost all of the non hosts in the first round didn't file at all.  What if there's two upsets in the same spot in the bracket?  Dave or Pat..  you guys know?

I bet the NCAA has already let the refs know who should win so they can avoid that situation

[dahlby]

GrizzliesGrad,
I will be very interested in Pat's or Dave's response to your suggestion that the NCAA would discuss the matter with the refs.
I would suggest that any non-bidding first round winners would reconsider bidding on the next round.
That seems to be a very off the wall suggestion that the NCAA would suggest anything to the refs.

[njf1003]

GrizzliesGrad,
I will be very interested in Pat's or Dave's response to your suggestion that the NCAA would discuss the matter with the refs.
I would suggest that any non-bidding first round winners would reconsider bidding on the next round.
That seems to be a very off the wall suggestion that the NCAA would suggest anything to the refs.

You can't put in late bids, but a couple may not have been able to host week 1 b/c of another event on campus, but did put in to host week 2.
I'm pretty sure GrizzliesGrad's post was a joke, but it would be interesting to see what the NCAA would do if not enough teams put in to host, do they create a 4 team "pod" with one game being a neutral site or do they find a random gym to host a neutral site game?

[Mr. Ypsi]

I feel safe in saying that FCGriz's use of  indicated he was joking.

Of course, if EVERY home team wins this weekend (schools known to have submitted bids), we may have to reconsider whether he was joking!

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[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

It is safe to say that if a team didn't put in to host (and the deadline was weeks ago), they aren't hosting at any point in the tournament. I am not positive if teams can say "we can't host the first week, but would love to host after that" and get rewarded by hosting - but with this drawn out schedule it is certainly possible. I know from previous experience that schools that know there are chances of hosting in the tournament will leave all of the weekends (for a normal tournament) open so there are no conflicts.

We also know from the pod system that teams that didn't host the first weekend could end up hosting the second due to travel restrictions and such for any of of the other three teams in their pod. However, with the system drawn out and individual hosting... it certainly becomes more interesting.

Now to be clear, they do not determine who is hosting until after that weekends games are finish - they do not predict. There is another hook to all of this... if a team who hosted this weekend did not live up to the expectations of a host... they will not get a game next weekend or beyond. It isn't that common, but it has happened.

Oh... and upsets can change a lot of dynamics.

[Pat Coleman]

They can elect to host in future weeks but not the first week. For example, six schools hosted wrestling regionals this week. (WPI has a new rec center and managed to host both.) There could be many other conflicts and I bet some events were scheduled for gyms before the NCAA announced the format change.

But you can't file late, as some have noted already. There's one deadline and it was weeks ago, but in that paperwork you can denote which weeks you are filing for.

Some might not choose to host during spring break either, for example, because of lack of personnel (no student workers, game managers might be on the road with their baseball or softball teams, institution policy, etc.).