Pool C

[LC_Cat-Backer]

Yea I saw the D3 projections. Also just curious as to the chance LC gets in and goes to UMHB because of the NCAA travel costs?

[Pat Coleman]

No -- the NCAA doesn't choose teams based on cost.

[LC_Cat-Backer]

Alright thanks for the clear up!

[sju56321]

I think if you switch NCC with UWW, make them both #1 seeds, you got the right projections.

[hazzben]

Good call on Wabash. If Chicago makes the regional rankings they've definitely got a good shot. But you're right, even DePauw alone might be enough

[rams1102]

I got up around 2:30AM and before roplling back over, I went down stairs checked D3 and read the 2nd projections. Decided not to post, slept on it, still kept thinking and now I'm back on the computer. Here we go :

Congrats to Cortland as NJAC Champs. The double monkey stomping of De Pauw by Wabash to me would justify them a Pool C even they are 8-2.  Now down to the so called proposed Rowan pick as a Pool C.  The stregnth of Schedule as determined by the NCAA,  Montclair .493, Rowan .500, Westfield .518, and Lycoming .523. Not much of a difference. Montclair beats Rowan 26-7. The NCAA can pipe as much smoke up my arse as they want but if they pick Rowan as a Pool C instead of Montclair it is nothink but politics and they can spin it any way they want. Oh, by the way is not the AD of Rowan the head of the NCAA Selection Committee.  Again if Rowan is in and Montclair is out, this will be a big black for the NCAA, but I guess they probably don't care anyway. 

[hickory_cornhusker]

I got up around 2:30AM and before roplling back over, I went down stairs checked D3 and read the 2nd projections. Decided not to post, slept on it, still kept thinking and now I'm back on the computer. Here we go :

Congrats to Cortland as NJAC Champs. The double monkey stomping of De Pauw by Wabash to me would justify them a Pool C even they are 8-2.  Now down to the so called proposed Rowan pick as a Pool C.  The stregnth of Schedule as determined by the NCAA,  Montclair .493, Rowan .500, Westfield .518, and Lycoming .523. Not much of a difference. Montclair beats Rowan 26-7. The NCAA can pipe as much smoke up my arse as they want but if they pick Rowan as a Pool C instead of Montclair it is nothink but politics and they can spin it any way they want. Oh, by the way is not the AD of Rowan the head of the NCAA Selection Committee.  Again if Rowan is in and Montclair is out, this will be a big black for the NCAA, but I guess they probably don't care anyway. 

I'm not sure how the D3 selection works but I do know that if this was D1 basketball that Rowan's AD would have to leave the room when the committee decideds to start talking about Rowan (and it might be all conference schools as well which would include Cortland State and Montclair State). Their pull is severely limited.

[Pat Coleman]

It's the same in D-III, cornhusker.

[usee]

Rams,

As Keith said on the playoff selection blog, I am not sure politics will have anything to do with it. Pat and Gordon's picks have Montclair out and they have no political bent either way. Differing views on the criteria by groups of people can lead to different conclusions, even when looking at the exact same data.

[rams1102]

Rams,

As Keith said on the playoff selection blog, I am not sure politics will have anything to do with it. Pat and Gordon's picks have Montclair out and they have no political bent either way. Differing views on the criteria by groups of people can lead to different conclusions, even when looking at the exact same data.

I NEVER inferred that Pat or anyone in D3 was political. I did say that Pat understands how the NCAA works. I do believe that there are political implifications in the NCAA selection process. All said, Montclair will get screwed.

[pg04]

Rams,

As Keith said on the playoff selection blog, I am not sure politics will have anything to do with it. Pat and Gordon's picks have Montclair out and they have no political bent either way. Differing views on the criteria by groups of people can lead to different conclusions, even when looking at the exact same data.

I NEVER inferred that Pat or anyone in D3 was political. I did say that Pat understands how the NCAA works. I do believe that there are political implifications in the NCAA selection process. All said, Montclair will get screwed.

There are 7 spots available.  There are more than that who feel like they deserve to get in.  Someone has to be left out. Perhaps Montclair should schedule someone other than Westfield or whoever they are in the future.  Or get a kicker who can make a clutch kick.  Either way, you can't blame this on some phantom "politics" 

[usee]

Rams,

The point is the decision does NOT have to be political. Pat and Gordan came to a non-political decision to leave MSU out and Rowan in. There are other reasons than just politics to pick/not pick a team.

[smedindy]

Wabash didn't get in. It's not politics. They should have taken care of business. You lose once, you deal with the consequences. Win your league and you're not complaining on this board. Period.

And yes I am disappointed with Wabash not getting in when they had the best SOS of the "C" teams, they did lose to Wash U. and frankly the IIAC (Coe) is better than the NCAC I bet.