New Divsion I-FBS Playoff Proposition

Started by SUADC, December 13, 2011, 11:34:59 AM

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ExTartanPlayer

Re: the "physical" toll, I also agree that there's an easy solution: reduce the regular-season schedule to 10 games.  Make it so all the big boys play only 2 nonconference "gimme" games and then their 8-game conference schedule.

Of course, this will never happen - the major powers will never give up the income that they get from holding 7-8 home games per year with the 12-game schedule.

Even under the existing system, I think that it's a little silly to argue that Division I players couldn't stand up to a few more games when a) the NCAA added the 12th game to the schedule a few years ago and b) virtually every high-school football team that goes deep into their state playoffs ends up playing 14 or more games.
I was small but made up for it by being slow...

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AO

Quote from: ExTartanPlayer on January 13, 2012, 12:12:44 PM
Re: Kira & Jaxon's dad,

I agree completely.  I've always found it humorous when the "intrusion on the school year" argument is brought up.  So holding a 65-team basketball tournament (which occurs smack in the middle of an academic semester) in which EVERY participant likely misses Thursday/Friday class on the opening weekend, participants on all Sweet 16 teams miss those classes for TWO straight weekends, and participants in the Final Four miss class for THREE straight weekends is less of an "intrusion" than holding a 16-team football playoff which would require virtually ZERO missed classes?*

*This is something that's often ignored, and I've never understood why: if the playoff games are all played on Saturdays, then the players would never HAVE to miss a class.  At worst, they would miss Friday classes (which is no different than what happens during the year for virtually all NCAA athletes, even Division II and Division III level).  The NCAA could even stipulate that teams cannot depart before, say, 7:00 PM on the Thursday before the game, to ensure that all players could at the very least attend their Thursday classes.

I know that I'm making some leaps of faith by even assuming that SEC players actually GO to class (zing!), but just humor me.  What am I missing?  Isn't the "academic" argument pretty much a shamockery?
Basketball players are smarter than football players.  8-) No traveshamockery there. 

NCF

Quote from: ExTartanPlayer on January 13, 2012, 12:12:44 PM
Re: Kira & Jaxon's dad,

I know that I'm making some leaps of faith by even assuming that SEC players actually GO to class (zing!), but just humor me.  What am I missing?  Isn't the "academic" argument pretty much a shamockery?

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I think that BCS is considering only having 12 teams compete for a playoff. The Scenario would be:

The SEC, BIG10, PAC 12, BIG 12 Each get a bye in round one. And then the Winner of Sun Belt v. C-USA plays SEC in round two, Ind v. Big East plays BIG10 in round two, WAC v. MWC plays PAC12 in Round two, and ACC v. MAC play BIG12 in round two. However, the Sun Belt, C-USA , Ind, B-East, WAC, MWC, ACC, and MAC conference champion has to be have a top 15 BCS ranking to qualify for the playoff. Therfore, if they're not in the Top 15 of the BCS then the next highest BCS team jumps in as an at-large. As for the Top-Four conference, a bye is either dictated based on your conferences OOC schedule wins & losses.

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Quote from: Warren Thompson on February 23, 2012, 05:20:27 PM
Quote from: Gray Fox on February 21, 2012, 05:24:49 PM
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Kindly excuse my flippancy, but why ought we care what happens in D1 (unless, of course, it somehow impinges on D3)?
Because most of us love football a any level. I would like to see D1 in a play-off system using the bowls and stop rewarding teams with 6 wins a post season game. IMHO a D1 play-off would bring some excitement back to the post season, just like March Madness does for bball.
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Quote from: Kira & Jaxon's Dad on January 13, 2012, 11:54:09 AM
Quote from: smedindy on January 13, 2012, 11:11:19 AM
Quote from: Kira & Jaxon's Dad on January 13, 2012, 06:07:57 AM
Quote from NCAA President:

Quote"The notion of having a Final Four approach is probably a sound one," Emmert said when asked what he heard coming out of New Orleans this week. "Moving toward a 16-team playoff is highly problematic because I think that's too much to ask a young man's body to do. It's too many games, it intrudes into the school year and, of course, it would probably necessitate a complete end to the bowl system that so many people like now."

Um, all of the other divisions have 32-team playoffs and the players seem to be handling it fairly well...

Not quite:

D-2 has 24 teams, D-1AA has 20.

My bad.  I guess what I am saying is that with a 10 Game Schedule + 32 Team Playoffs

Only 2 Teams will play 15 Games
Only 4 Teams will play 14 Games
Only 8 Teams will play 13 Games
Etc...

D1 already has teams playing 12 Game Schedules, + Conference Championship, + Bowl Game.  Reduce the schedule back to 10 or 11 games and have a 16 Team (at least) Tournament, and it wouldn't affect the players as much as he is stating in his interview:

Quote"Moving toward a 16-team playoff is highly problematic because I think that's too much to ask a young man's body to do. It's too many games, it intrudes into the school year

The problem in your proposal is limiting the regular season to 10 or 11 game. There's just no way BCS schools will give up regular season home games. They are a cash cow for them. And they're realizing the same with the Championship Games...TV money is tough to say goodbye to.

I would love to see a playoff. I'm not as hardcore that everyone has to be represented. Mostly, I want to see good football that decides a champion on the field. I have little interest seeing an 8-4 Sun Belt team get mopped by a 12-1 SEC team. I'm open to the idea of access for the lower conferences, but think there's nothing wrong with them having to earn it on the field. To make the playoff, a team should have a loss limit. And I think they should eliminate games against FCS schools, but again, the money factor would never allow this.

Bottom line, get rid of the BCS. I wanted to see Nebraska versus Michigan in 1997, Nebraska versus PSU in 1994, etc. (can you tell I'm a Huskers fan ;D). I think Boise State would have made some fun runs in a playoff the last few years. Even if they couldn't win it all, it would absolutely legitimize them on the national stage.