WBB: Old Dominion Athletic Conference

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baller116

I understand that Katy Herr is a great player but I don't think you can put her and Megan Silva in the same category. Megan Silva got big time D1 looks and could have actually player D1. Saying a player like Katy Herr got D1 looks is much different because she was not, and still is not at the level that Megan Silva was at. I think that Silva is the only recent player to go through the ODAC from my knowledge and memory that had the capability to play D1.

Matt Barnhart (kid)

Except for points (Silva averaged twice as many shots per game than Herr Lovell), their career stats aren't that far off.  What is most amazing is that they both have started every game since stepping onto their respective campuses, and have both won a combined 80% of their games as the floor generals.

Congrats to both for their amazing careers.  We're lucky we are able to still witness one of them!


Megan Silva
Katy Herr Lovell
Randolph-Macon
School
Bridgewater
5-foot-9
Height
5-foot-4
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2002-2006
Years
2003-present
121-121
GP-GS
95-95
98-23 (81.0%)
Record (Win%)
75-20 (78.9%)
873-1799 (48.5%)
Field Goals (%)
336-849 (39.6%)
526-689 (76.3%)
Free Throws (%)
240-316 (75.9%)
101-266 (38.0%)
Three-Pointers (%)
102-319 (32.0%)
2371 (19.6)
Points (Avg)
1014 (10.7)
556 (4.6)
Rebounds (Avg)
572 (6.0)
700 (5.9)
Assists (Avg)
400 (4.2)
446 (3.7)
Steals (Avg)
307 (3.2)
34 (0.3)
Blocks (Avg)
19 (0.2)
460 (3.8 )
Turnovers (Avg)
230 (2.4)
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valleybballfan

Quote from: baller116 on January 08, 2007, 06:27:10 PM
I understand that Katy Herr is a great player but I don't think you can put her and Megan Silva in the same category. Megan Silva got big time D1 looks and could have actually player D1. Saying a player like Katy Herr got D1 looks is much different because she was not, and still is not at the level that Megan Silva was at. I think that Silva is the only recent player to go through the ODAC from my knowledge and memory that had the capability to play D1.


When was anyone putting the two players in the same category, other then saying both got D1 looks? Which, they both did. I am not sure what Silva was offered, but Katy was given several chances at partial scholarships to play D1.  She is a short player, but her hustle and intensity negate her height, just look at how she is getting ready to move into the top 10 all time at BC in rebounding.

Silva was an AMAZING player, no doubt about that. However, no one was ever putting them on the same level other then to speak about both of their decisions to go D3 to stay close to family and be given a chance to play.

You say Silva could have actually been a good D1 player, implying Herr Lovell could not have. That's a bold and cocky statement, and one that we will never know because as amazing as Silva was, she was a D3 player and that is what she, as well as Herr Lovell, will remain.

odacbballfan

Blah Blah Blah Megan Silva Blah Blah Blah Katie Herr ....................

GAVA

Quote from: Matt Barnhart (kid) on January 08, 2007, 07:53:02 PM
Except for points (Silva averaged twice as many shots per game than Herr Lovell), their career stats aren't that far off.  What is most amazing is that they both have started every game since stepping onto their respective campuses, and have both won a combined 80% of their games as the floor generals.

Congrats to both for their amazing careers.  We're lucky we are able to still witness one of them!


Megan Silva
Katy Herr Lovell
Randolph-Macon
School
Bridgewater
5-foot-9
Height
5-foot-4
-----------------------
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2002-2006
Years
2003-present
121-121
GP-GS
95-95
98-23 (81.0%)
Record (Win%)
75-20 (78.9%)
873-1799 (48.5%)
Field Goals (%)
336-849 (39.6%)
526-689 (76.3%)
Free Throws (%)
240-316 (75.9%)
101-266 (38.0%)
Three-Pointers (%)
102-319 (32.0%)
2371 (19.6)
Points (Avg)
1014 (10.7)
556 (4.6)
Rebounds (Avg)
572 (6.0)
700 (5.9)
Assists (Avg)
400 (4.2)
446 (3.7)
Steals (Avg)
307 (3.2)
34 (0.3)
Blocks (Avg)
19 (0.2)
460 (3.8 )
Turnovers (Avg)
230 (2.4)
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-----------------------


Silva 5" 9" ??????  :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D  Did you ever see her Matt?....and a MUCH MUCH better player 

Matt Barnhart (kid)

Quote from: GAVA on January 08, 2007, 11:48:45 PM
Silva 5" 9" ??????  :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D  Did you ever see her Matt?....and a MUCH MUCH better player 

I accidentally took Merkel's height from the 2005-06 roster.
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odacblogger

January 9
EMU at W&L (7:00 p.m.)
GC at LC (7:00 p.m.)
HU at E&H (7:00 p.m.)
RC at BC (7:00 p.m.)

Any thoughts on the outcome of these games? 

upper90

until katy herr lovell gets national player of the year, wins a few ODAC championships, and is a 2 time all-american, i think comparisons should be avoided.

bbald eagle

Quote from: baller116 on January 08, 2007, 06:27:10 PM
I think that Silva is the only recent player to go through the ODAC from my knowledge and memory that had the capability to play D1.

What about Marsha Kinder? She was very impressive.

http://www.d3hoops.com/springfield/06/kinder.htm

You sell D-3 players short. I have seen a number of D-1 women players who would not shine on the better D-3 teams.


Matt Barnhart (kid)

Quote from: upper90 on January 09, 2007, 02:10:32 PM
until katy herr lovell gets national player of the year, wins a few ODAC championships, and is a 2 time all-american, i think comparisons should be avoided.

I'm having trouble understanding why Silva and Herr Lovell can't be compared?

I took a statistical approach ... and when done, you can't say they aren't close in production.  No one is saying Herr Lovell is "better" than Silva.  But I also won't say Silva is "better" than Herr Lovell.  That's simply a subjective opinion.

Individual awards will always be subjective, so the fact that Silva earned Player of the Year and All-America honors won't sway me.  I do realize R-MC won three ODAC crowns w/ Silva, but Bridgewater did finish runner-up two of those years w/ Herr Lovell.

Simply put, I think we should celebrate both point guards for what they've accomplished.  Starting every game and winning 80% of the time they stepped on the court.  Very impressive, no matter what awards they have earned or conference titles won.
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Matt Barnhart (kid)

Quote from: odacblogger on January 09, 2007, 01:49:39 PM
January 9
EMU at W&L (7:00 p.m.)
GC at LC (7:00 p.m.)
HU at E&H (7:00 p.m.)
RC at BC (7:00 p.m.)

Any thoughts on the outcome of these games? 

RC at BC - The Maroons have played within eight points of VWC, R-MC, GC, and EMU, with Erin Hanson being the key to their success.  When she scores 20+, they're 4-0.  When she scores less than 20, they're 1-5.  If BC can force her into bad decisions, the Eagles should be alright.  Hanson is averaging 5.2 turnovers in Roanoke's five losses. Bridgewater 67, Roanoke 58

HU at E&H - It's Hollins ... enough said.  Emory & Henry 75, Hollins 42

GC at LC - Two teams who combine for only three seniors and no juniors.  Lots of youth, but the Quakers have been playing better with their five-game win streak ending with a nine-point loss to R-MC and a 10-point loss to VWC.  I think this will be a close one with Caroline Wesley keeping the Hornets in it w/ Guilford's lack of height.  Freshman PG Kristina Darby is a turnover machine (4.9 a game) and will keep Lynchburg from winning. Guilford 58, Lynchburg 52

EMU at W&L - Two of the better defensive and rebounding teams in the conference, with W&L's Jessica Hunsinger and EMU's Carolyn Riley leading the way for both clubs.  I think Hunsinger's presence in the middle will force EMU to shoot from outside, and if Mandee Madden, Ebony Dennis, or Riley get hot early, it could be lights out. Eastern Mennonite 62, Washington & Lee 54
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whitecaylxx

Roanoke knows how to apply pressure and works very well with Erin Hansen and the rest of their resources - but Bridgewater is just too strong.
Emory & Henry hasn't really been that competitive this year - but like you say - it is Hollins.
Guilford over Lynchburg - turnovers!
EMU is doing pretty well this year, and W & L is looking pretty weak.

fairmont1113

Bridgewater over Roanoke

E&H over Hollins

Lynchburg over Guilford

W&L over EMU


thanks for the post odacblogger!

hoopstermom

RC 69, BC 67
Release says BC came out cold - didn't score until 10:39 to go in the 1st half; and RC's Hanson blocked a Herr Lovell shot with 2 seconds to go that would have tied the game.

I think the tourney this year will be up for grabs depending on who is cold and who is hot come tourney time. 

There goes the prospect of another team going undefeated for the season.


Matt Barnhart (kid)

I was at the BC-RC game tonight.  Kudos to Roanoke for shooting out of the gates strong (took a 20-4 lead) and never looked back.  The Eagles missed their first 16 shots of the game, and could never get it going on the defensive end until the last 10 minutes of the game.

I was impressed by the play of Long and Osborne.  Long seemed like she couldn't miss, and Osborne gave Herr Lovell trouble all night.

Attempting to find a bright side to a conference loss (at home), the Eagles were down 53-34 with 14:18 to go in the game, and brought it back to 66-65 with three minutes left and then 68-67 with a minute remaining.  Way to hang in there even though their shots weren't falling.  Amy Childs led the furious comeback with 17 points in the second half.

Again, congrats to Roanoke.

Box Score: http://www.bridgewater.edu/Sports/features/whoops0607/07WBBRC1.HTM
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