WBB: Old Dominion Athletic Conference

GAVA · February 24, 2007, 07:43:25 PM

RMC wins, advances to finals.

GAVA · February 24, 2007, 08:59:05 PM

Quote from: GAVA on Today at 08:24:12 pm
I guess but it doesn't make much sense at face value...the # 1 seed RMC and the #2 seed VWC both lose points for having to beat the # 8 and# 7 seeds in the ODAC opening round.
Since the # 3 and #4 seeds lost in the opening round, do the #1 and #2 seeds lose more points tonight in the semi-finals for beating the #5 and #6 teams ??

Quote from: Ralph Turner on Today at 08:40:19 pm

It should make sense because #7 and #8 are not very good at all.

I think that the Presidents and the AD's should look at the evdience and the impact of what playing #7 and #8 does to the chances of a really worthy #1 getting to host a playoff game or a #2 or #3 has of getting a Pool C at large bid. The Conference might want to consider a 6-team tourney with a #3-#6/#4-#5 play-in as a home game at #3 and #4. Almost always your #6 team should have an in-region record of .333. In fact, W&L is 13-9, a 12 point victory for the #3 team over W&L at home.

The Top 4 from each division of the 15-team ASC go to the conference tourney.

GAVA · February 24, 2007, 09:01:40 PM

Should the ODAC look at reducing the tourney to 6 teams to give the league a better chance at getting at large bids for the NCAA tourney? Thoughts anyone?

bbingit · February 24, 2007, 10:11:24 PM

Quote from: GAVA on February 24, 2007, 09:01:40 PM
Should the ODAC look at reducing the tourney to 6 teams to give the league a better chance at getting at large bids for the NCAA tourney? Thoughts anyone?

Reducing the teams in the tournament is ridiculous. That is not going to help the ODAC get at large bids. Go out in the region and play the top teams out of conference and win. If the ODAC wants to do something to help, reduce the number of in conference games so the teams can play more out of conference games. I dont understand what GAVA is saying that you lose points for beating a #7 or #8. How strong was RMC or VWC's out of conference schedule?

huskiect · February 24, 2007, 11:04:31 PM

RMC vs VWC for the ODAC Championship!

GAVA · February 24, 2007, 11:50:33 PM

Quote from: bbingit on February 24, 2007, 10:11:24 PM
Quote from: GAVA on February 24, 2007, 09:01:40 PM
Should the ODAC look at reducing the tourney to 6 teams to give the league a better chance at getting at large bids for the NCAA tourney? Thoughts anyone?

Reducing the teams in the tournament is ridiculous. That is not going to help the ODAC get at large bids. Go out in the region and play the top teams out of conference and win. If the ODAC wants to do something to help, reduce the number of in conference games so the teams can play more out of conference games. I dont understand what GAVA is saying that you lose points for beating a #7 or #8. How strong was RMC or VWC's out of conference schedule?

I know it is confusing and it has been a learning experience for me, but RMC and VWC wins Friday actually cost them points in the national rankings used to select at large bids because LC and GC were ranked so low. The advice Ralph Turner gave was to reduce the tourney to six teams. The ASC plays only 8 of their 15 teams for this purpose.

Pat Coleman · February 25, 2007, 12:43:48 AM

They can go out and schedule top teams out of conference but as long as Hollins and Randolph drag the conference's numbers down the ODAC will have to battle perceptions that it's a weak league.

Old School Marlin · February 25, 2007, 05:31:01 PM

Randolph-Macon 76
Virginia Wesleyan 65

The Marlins fought hard to cut a 21 point lead by Macon down to 4, but some bad turnovers and missed shots in the end let the Jackets pull away. Nicole Thurston tried to carry the team on her back and just couldn't anybody else to help put points on the board. Broke her career points record last night and today. She will be sorely missed, as will Dove, Rector, and Churchill. Macon just couldn't be stopped at certain points during the game - they made everything they shot. It was so awesome to watch it on the internet!

Fingers crossed for an at large bid for my Marlins $:-\$

baller116 · February 25, 2007, 05:32:48 PM

Quote from: Old School Marlin on February 25, 2007, 05:31:01 PM
Randolph-Macon 76
Virginia Wesleyan 65

The Marlins fought hard to cut a 21 point lead by Macon down to 4, but some bad turnovers and missed shots in the end let the Jackets pull away. Nicole Thurston tried to carry the team on her back and just couldn't anybody else to help put points on the board. Broke her career points record last night and today. She will be sorely missed, as will Dove, Rector, and Churchill. Macon just couldn't be stopped at certain points during the game - they made everything they shot. It was so awesome to watch it on the internet!

Fingers crossed for an at large bid for my Marlins $:-\$

way to go jackets!!! ODAC champs three years in a row...

odac fan 4 life · February 25, 2007, 05:49:57 PM

What a dissapointment $:-\$

I have seen the Marlins struggle all year against the top teams (despite big wins in splitting with RMC and BC) and I think that will greatly hurt them in getting an at large bid. I was looking at all the standings and the south region standings, and I am not an expert, but I don't think VWC will get an at-large. Maybe somone who knows something can fill us in a little better.

Great job to RMC....I hope they represent the ODAC well in the NCAAs. What is wrong with Reisbeck? She was wearing a theraputic boot on her foot at the ODAC banquet, and then in the Lynchburg game went down in tears, and two minutes later was back in running up and down the court. Does she have a sprain or what is her injury? Will she be 100% for the NCAAs?

Well....good season Marlins....we can look at the bright side....at least we won some tournament games this year! I was hoping for two tournament championships for the Marlins this year...one from the men and one from the women's. Oh well...great season anyways...with the loss of some exceptional seniors...what does next year look like for you Marlin diehards?

GAVA · February 25, 2007, 07:19:18 PM

Quote from: baller116 on February 25, 2007, 05:32:48 PM

way to go jackets!!! ODAC champs three years in a row...

I would never have guessed this prior to the season !!!

And with the sophmores and freshmen leading the way, the next 3 years could be great also !!
Hoping VWC gets an at large bid, but as I noted yesterday, RMC's and VWC's national rankings actually dropped after the first round due to the weakness of the bottom seeds. Someone suggested that going to a 6 team tourney would help ODAC get more at large bids. The ASC lets just 8 of their 15 teams ( about half ) in the tourney to increase chances of at large bids.

mybleedinghands · February 25, 2007, 07:35:39 PM

"Hoping VWC gets an at large bid, but as I noted yesterday, RMC's and VWC's national rankings actually dropped after the first round due to the weakness of the bottom seeds."

national rankings aren't released until the beginning of the week, so their ranking couldn't have dropped already. and if Lynchburg is a weak #8 seed, then was VWC weak as well? Macon won both those games by 11, and both games were relatively close with about 5 minutes left to play. So if Lynchburg was weak, then VWC was weak as well considering the games were both somewhat close.

GAVA · February 25, 2007, 10:04:25 PM

Quote from: Ralph Turner yesterday regarding ODAC tourney and at large bids..........

It should make sense because #7 and #8 were not very good at all.

I think that the Presidents and the AD's should look at the evdience and the impact of what playing #7 and #8 does to the chances of a really worthy #1 getting to host a playoff game or a #2 or #3 has of getting a Pool C at large bid. The Conference might want to consider a 6-team tourney with a #3-#6/#4-#5 play-in as a home game at #3 and #4. Almost always your #6 team should have an in-region record of .333. In fact, W&L is 13-9, a 12 point victory for the #3 team over W&L at home.

The Top 4 from each division of the 15-team ASC go to the conference tourney.

GAVA · February 25, 2007, 10:11:21 PM

Quote from: Scottie Too Hottie on February 25, 2007, 07:35:39 PM
"Hoping VWC gets an at large bid, but as I noted yesterday, RMC's and VWC's national rankings actually dropped after the first round due to the weakness of the bottom seeds."

national rankings aren't released until the beginning of the week, so their ranking couldn't have dropped already. and if Lynchburg is a weak #8 seed, then was VWC weak as well? Macon won both those games by 11, and both games were relatively close with about 5 minutes left to play. So if Lynchburg was weak, then VWC was weak as well considering the games were both somewhat close.

Rankings of Quality Wins Ratings are updated daily. VWC was ranked right below RMC in the South Region. LC and GC were not ranked in the top 200 nationally.

GAVA · February 25, 2007, 10:22:10 PM

Todays Ratings:

RMC # 39 and #3 in South Region

VWC # 64 and # 7 in South Region

No other ODAC teams in top 100

Re: Pool C
Today at 08:58:34 pm »

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1 12.400 1 Bowdoin 0.960 (24-1) 26-1
2 11.731 1 Messiah 0.962 (25-1) 25-2
3 11.500 2 Emmanuel 0.962 (25-1) 27-1
4 11.462 2 Scranton 0.923 (24-2) 25-2
5 11.320 1 New York University 0.920 (23-2) 23-2
6 11.259 3 Southern Maine 0.926 (25-2) 25-2
7 11.192 2 Cortland State 0.923 (24-2) 25-2
8 11.037 4 Fitchburg State 0.926 (25-2) 25-2
9 11.000 3 Rochester 0.800 (20-5) 20-5
10 10.962 1 UW-Stout 0.846 (22-4) 23-5
11 10.905 1 DePauw 0.857 (18-3) 25-3
12 10.852 3 Gwynedd-Mercy 0.926 (25-2) 25-2
13 10.815 1 Mary Washington 0.926 (25-2) 26-2
14 10.773 2 Lake Forest 0.955 (21-1) 23-2
15 10.773 5 Williams 0.773 (17-5) 20-6
16 10.769 2 Kean 0.885 (23-3) 24-3
17 10.750 1 Luther 0.900 (18-2) 22-4
18 10.704 1 Howard Payne 0.963 (26-1) 27-1
19 10.667 4 St. Lawrence 0.917 (22-2) 24-3
20 10.654 6 Maine Maritime 0.885 (23-3) 25-3
21 10.643 3 Mount St. Mary 0.857 (24-4) 24-4
22 10.615 2 Wilmington 0.846 (22-4) 24-4
23 10.607 7 Maine-Farmington 0.893 (25-3) 25-3
24 10.571 3 Washington U. 0.810 (17-4) 20-5
25 10.560 3 Denison 0.880 (22-3) 24-4
26 10.550 4 Calvin 0.950 (19-1) 25-2
27 10.500 4 Concordia (Wis.) 0.909 (20-2) 23-3
28 10.500 4 McDaniel 0.885 (23-3) 23-3
29 10.478 8 Brandeis 0.783 (18-5) 19-5
30 10.462 9 Norwich 0.885 (23-3) 24-3
31 10.458 5 Manchester 0.833 (20-4) 21-6
32 10.440 5 Carroll 0.840 (21-4) 21-4
33 10.360 2 St. Benedict 0.875 (21-3) 22-5
34 10.348 6 Hope 0.870 (20-3) 24-3
35 10.333 3 Puget Sound 0.810 (17-4) 21-6
36 10.296 2 McMurry 0.852 (23-4) 24-4
37 10.278 4 George Fox 0.763 (14-4) 18-6
38 10.261 6 UW-Whitewater 0.739 (17-6) 19-7
39 10.192 3 Randolph-Macon 0.885 (23-3) 24-4
40 10.160 10 Salve Regina 0.840 (21-4) 22-6
41 10.136 5 Chapman 0.773 (17-5) 22-5
42 10.125 7 Transylvania 0.750 (18-6) 19-8
43 10.120 4 William Paterson 0.840 (21-4) 22-5
44 10.087 5 Medaille 0.913 (21-2) 23-4
45 10.083 7 Illinois Wesleyan 0.833 (20-4) 22-5
46 10.077 5 Dickinson 0.808 (21-5) 22-5
47 10.045 6 Simpson 0.773 (17-5) 21-6
48 10.038 11 Keene State 0.769 (20-6) 21-6
49 10.000 7 Gustavus Adolphus 0.846 (22-4) 22-5
50 10.000 4 Oglethorpe 0.800 (20-5) 21-7
51 10.000 6 Oswego State 0.704 (19-8) 19-8
52 9.920 12 Tufts 0.680 (17-8) 18-8
53 9.913 8 Chicago 0.696 (16-7) 18-7
54 9.864 9 Maryville (Mo.) 0.864 (19-3) 22-5
55 9.815 8 Capital 0.741 (20-7) 20-7
56 9.808 6 Albright 0.654 (17-9) 17-9
57 9.773 10 Wheaton (Ill.) 0.727 (16-6) 19-7
58 9.760 7 Brockport State 0.720 (18-7) 20-7
59 9.741 13 Colby-Sawyer 0.815 (22-5) 22-5
60 9.739 9 Thomas More 0.826 (19-4) 22-4
61 9.727 11 Millikin 0.773 (17-5) 20-6
62 9.727 5 East Texas Baptist 0.818 (18-4) 22-5
63 9.720 6 Hardin-Simmons 0.800 (20-5) 21-5
64 9.680 7 Virginia Wesleyan 0.760 (19-6) 21-7
65 9.652 12 UW-Eau Claire 0.696 (16-7) 19-9
66 9.640 7 Muhlenberg 0.720 (18-7) 19-7
67 9.615 8 Ferrum 0.769 (20-6) 21-7
68 9.609 9 Maryville (Tenn.) 0.826 (19-4) 23-5
69 9.609 8 Hamilton 0.696 (16-7) 19-7
70 9.583 10 Westminster (Pa.) 0.750 (18-6) 22-6
71 9.542 13 UW-Stevens Point 0.708 (17-7) 18-7
72 9.500 11 Rose-Hulman 0.773 (17-5) 21-5
73 9.500 14 Bates 0.583 (14-10) 15-10
74 9.480 5 Baruch 0.720 (18-7) 20-8
75 9.407 6 Stevens 0.778 (21-6) 21-6
76 9.385 8 King's 0.692 (18-8) 19-8
77 9.385 15 Mount Holyoke 0.731 (19-7) 21-7
78 9.348 10 Piedmont 0.739 (17-6) 18-7
79 9.321 9 Ursinus 0.679 (19-9) 19-9
80 9.320 12 Baldwin-Wallace 0.720 (18-7) 19-7
81 9.320 16 Eastern Connecticut 0.640 (16-9) 16-11
82 9.318 9 RPI 0.636 (14-8) 15-10
83 9.304 10 Keuka 0.727 (16-6) 18-7
84 9.250 8 La Verne 0.750 (15-5) 19-6
85 9.240 17 Suffolk 0.720 (18-7) 18-9
86 9.231 11 Ithaca 0.615 (16-10) 16-11
87 9.222 14 Benedictine 0.704 (19-8) 20-8
88 9.222 7 York (Pa.) 0.667 (18-9) 18-9
89 9.200 8 SUNY-Farmingdale 0.720 (18-7) 19-7
90 9.192 13 Penn State-Behrend 0.808 (21-5) 21-5
91 9.192 14 Allegheny 0.692 (18-8) 19-8
92 9.185 18 Endicott 0.667 (18-9) 18-9
93 9.167 11 Christopher Newport 0.708 (17-7) 20-8
94 9.160 15 Ohio Northern 0.640 (16-9) 17-10
95 9.148 9 Carleton 0.704 (19-8) 19-8
96 9.143 12 Elmira 0.714 (15-6) 21-6
97 9.130 12 Trinity (Texas) 0.652 (15-8) 17-8
98 9.120 9 Lehman 0.680 (17-8) 19-9
99 9.115 10 Moravian 0.577 (15-11) 16-11
100 9.091 10 Minnesota-Morris 0.833 (10-2) 15-12

WBB: Old Dominion Athletic Conference

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