WBB: Old Dominion Athletic Conference

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GAVA

Quote from: baller116 on October 17, 2006, 10:01:44 PM
I think that the Bridgewater team is talented but not talented enough to be ranked in the top 25.. Yes, they had a great season last year, but they also lost their top scorer in Kinder. I just dont think they have the weapons to be up there. I still think that RMC is more talented, even without Silva and Orton.
I like RMC's pre-season (non ) rating ;)  No expectations and no where to go but up ;D

fairmont1113

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Quote from: baller116 on October 17, 2006, 10:01:44 PM
I think that the Bridgewater team is talented but not talented enough to be ranked in the top 25.. Yes, they had a great season last year, but they also lost their top scorer in Kinder. I just dont think they have the weapons to be up there. I still think that RMC is more talented, even without Silva and Orton.

I agree that Bridgewater's ranking might be a little high, however I do believe they deserve to be in the top 25...and I agree with GAVA...its always nice to not have the bulls-eye on your back because when you're in the top 25...everyone is out to get you!

Now...about RMC being more talented then Bridgewater...I'm not too sure about that. Just look at what RMC lost compared to BC, and you can see why I have a problem saying RMC is still the better team.

RMC lost four seniors, Silva, Orton, Thompson, and Senske. All of these seniors were starters at one point or another, Silva and Orton started 100% of the time, Senske 74% of the time, and Thompson29%.

Losing these four seniors mean losing....
58.9% of the scoring
50.7% of the rebounds
50.6% of the steals
46.6% of the assists
47% of minutes played
53.1% of blocks

and...here is the lowest statistical category these seniors ranked in...
44% of the turnovers
(I guess the returners have one stat they won't have to pick up the slack in as much!!!)

So, RMC is losing a lot and will have to heavily rely on their returners. They have some very talented returners and will be a very dangerous team. The only thing I am questioning, baller116, is your confidence in saying that RMC is still better then the Eagles.


Here is what BC is losing in their one senior, Kinder....
24.1% of the scoring
8.0% of the rebounds
12.5% of the steals
13.1% of the assists
15.9% of the minutes played
2.4% of the blocks
14% of the turnovers


The two stats that Kinder ranked in the top 2 in for the Eagles, were scoring and turnovers. She was an amazing player who will greatly be missed. All I am saying is that BC has four talented returning starters who did a lot for this team. They have a deep bench and some good looking freshmen.

I think BC is the team to beat, and the better team then RMC.

However....only time will tell.......


PrideSportBBallGuy

So what is the overall consensus.  Need a poll question, because I am about to pick Randolph-Macon Women's college to win it all.  (sorry just a little joke.)  What are they going to change the college name too, since last I heard they were going to accept men?

I am still with Bridgewater to win it.

baller116

fairmont, i agree with you in many ways.. however i think that even the non starters for rmc last year were more talented than most of the eagle starters.. that was macon's problem last year.. they had so much talent but had trouble getting chemistry on the court from that talent. i know it seems like i am biased towards rmc, but i just think people are writing them off too quickly.. they have built up a program the past 2 years that is unquestionably the best in odac history.. and they lose some very talented players so they are no good and not worthy of a ranking? i am with rmc to win..  ;D

valleybballfan

baller116.....I can't say I agree with you. I am not sure of anyone who is writing RMC off. I have talked to several people from different teams around the league, and the consensus is that people are still very worried about RMC and how good they will be. They have a lot of talent returning, but what they lost is unreplaceable. I am also not sure about RMC's bench being better then some of Bridgewater's starters?? That does sound very biased to me. RMC was 2-1 against BC last year, and the game that RMC won on their home court was very close. In fact, BC led with 3 minutes left in the game before RMC took control by making 8-of-8 from the free throw line over the last three minutes. There were 9 ties in that game. So, BC played RMC pretty evenly throughout the season. It will be interesting to see how the ODAC will go this year. Of course, we can't forget that VA Wesleyan had a pretty good team last year (even though they fell apart in the end) and they didn't lose anybody!

Judging by talent alone (don't forget talent alone does not win ball games)
I will go with Bridgewater to win the ODAC.

PrideSportBBallGuy

The judge of how well they (RMC) is how much they dominate my conference (USASouth)  They start with Methodist and Averett.  Not too of the best teams coming out.  Methodist likes to run, and Averett wants to keep it close.  Take your pick.  Although a few years ago RMC played Shenadoah University (the NCAA finalist year)  SU finished last in USASouth and RMC beat SU 98-91.  The point is Silva was the difference in that game.  So if they dominate AU and MC then don't count out RMC.

fairmont1113

RMC and Mary Washington are scrimmaging. Should be a good measure for RMC to see where they still stand after losing so much off of last year's squad.Any information that people can give us about the outcome of that scrimmage would be great!

Balder Eagle

117 to 89 Total Offense in MWU's favor.
1st half was totally MWU.

fairmont1113


Balder Eagle

Most Welcome,
Just a reminder - they played three halves   :o

PrideSportBBallGuy

So looking based on that about a 78-60 win for Mary Washington.  I am sure neither team has everything in place and I am not too sure how much scouting and tape was watched for the game and scrimmages are scrimmages.  Mary Washington is expected to return alot of players, and not RMC.  I would expect the score to be something along those lines maybe a 75-65 score.  IMO

Balder Eagle

Numbers appear good, MWU never put all it's strength on the court once. Do not know what RMC did in those regards. MWU played four freshmen in combinations with their seasoned players. Bruen and Hickey were never on the floor at the same time and were played sparingly. As stated it was a scrimmage  :). It was good to see some action. Will be a great season of Div III Basketball!

eaglemaniac

Quote from: Balder Eagle on October 29, 2006, 07:37:28 PM
117 to 89 Total Offense in MWU's favor.
1st half was totally MWU.

Balder Eagle- Say this with me.....UMW......UMW.........UMW  ;D
Thanks for the Update...
I may not always be Right........But I'm never Wrong!


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