WBB: Old Dominion Athletic Conference

shsfan · February 19, 2009, 11:25:09 PM

First round ODAC tournament predictions:

RC over LC by 8
RMC over EMU by 17
VWC over GC by 13
BC over WL by 5

Bammer · February 20, 2009, 06:30:10 AM

Tournament predictions:

RC over LC
RMC over EMU
W&L over BC
VWC over GC in OT

whitecaylxx · February 20, 2009, 09:54:26 AM

Where is this confidence in Guilford coming from? Do you know someone? I also think VWC is better than they have preformed this year. $:-\$

Bammer · February 20, 2009, 11:04:21 AM

I did pick VWC to win. I just do not think this team has played up to their potential. I also respect the game of GC's Croner.

dukeofargyle · February 20, 2009, 07:43:43 PM

At half:
W&L 38, Roanoke 28.
RMC 47, GC 26
VWC 36, E&H 34
LC- 27, RAND 24

hoopstermom · February 20, 2009, 08:52:09 PM

Final scores for tonight

W&L 65, Roanoke 54.
RMC 80, GC 49
VWC 71, E&H 63
RAND 64, LC 54

Not sure if this shakes up seedings.

dukeofargyle · February 20, 2009, 08:53:12 PM

Love this - do us all a favor & just keep picking against the Gennies, caylxx and eaglejacket.
Bammer- you da man. 8)

Generals upend #1 Maroons by a comfortable 11 points: 65-54. W&L wins in Roanoke on senior night to revenge their 3 pt loss to them in Lex in January. Maroons never had lead at any point in the entire game. Gennies send 4 of their starters into double digits and dominate on the glass 46-31.

Lady Generals, you are awesome.

Life is good.

hoopstermom · February 20, 2009, 09:29:48 PM

Seriously, how to tie breakers work? If you can't break the tie based upon head to head competition, I've seen from other postings that ties are broken by team with best record against next team in the ranking, e.g. if both Roanoke and RMC finish 17-3, then the one with the best record against the 3 seed (VWC) gets the higher tourney seed. That would be Roanoke who beat VWC both times and RMC split against VWC.

Can anyone confirm this?

gogenerals04 · February 20, 2009, 11:04:37 PM

The ODAC uses a points system to determine tiebreakers when head-to-head doesn't work. Based on my understanding of the system and my attempt at calculations, here are the scenarios for ODAC Tournament seeds, with the possible changes from tomorrow's results. I've listed the probable seeding, based on teams with better records winning Saturday (with other possibilities in parentheses):

1. Roanoke (if R-MC wins and ROA loses, then R-MC)
2. Randolph-Macon (if above happens, then ROA)
3. Virginia Wesleyan (if W&L wins and VWC loses, then W&L)
4. W&L (if W&L wins and VWC loses, then VWC; if W&L loses, then BC)
5. Bridgewater (if BC wins, then W&L)
6. Guilford
7. Eastern Mennonite
8. Lynchburg (if E&H wins and LC loses, then E&H)

Let me stress that this is all UNOFFICIAL. I think, though, that I've done the math right.

hasanova · February 21, 2009, 02:01:59 AM

Quote from: hoopstermom on February 20, 2009, 09:29:48 PM
Seriously, how to tie breakers work? If you can't break the tie based upon head to head competition, I've seen from other postings that ties are broken by team with best record against next team in the ranking, e.g. if both Roanoke and RMC finish 17-3, then the one with the best record against the 3 seed (VWC) gets the higher tourney seed. That would be Roanoke who beat VWC both times and RMC split against VWC.

Can anyone confirm this?

If two teams tie at 17-3 (and split their season series), then the squad with the best record against the 3rd team gets the #1 seed. So, if Roanoke defeated VWC twice and RMC got a split versus the Marlins, then the Maroons would, indeed, get the nod.

whitecaylxx · February 21, 2009, 09:43:31 AM

dukeofargyle - just because you make an educated, calculated guess on a game does not mean you are "against" the Generals. The odds were clearly in Roanoke's favor. Lighten up! Big, big win for the blue and white.

dukeofargyle · February 21, 2009, 10:32:23 AM

Quote from: whitecaylxx on February 21, 2009, 09:43:31 AM
dukeofargyle - just because you make an educated, calculated guess on a game does not mean you are "against" the Generals. The odds were clearly in Roanoke's favor. Lighten up! Big, big win for the blue and white.

Never said that.

Hey- 'educated & calculated' is sure safe- but boring. (Are/were you an accounting major?

) But it has no capacity to take in the intangibles: great team chemistry, passion & intensity. Though disproportionately young, the Gennies- when running on all cylinders - have all those qualities.

Sure caused some chaos with the top rankings. Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't W&L the only team in the conference that has split the season with each of the top three squads, two of which are regionally ranked?

shsfan · February 21, 2009, 01:08:06 PM

"chaos with the top rankings"? Certainly a nice win, but if RC and RMC win today, there isn't even movement in the top rankings, let alone "chaos".

dukeofargyle · February 21, 2009, 02:28:15 PM

"Certainly a nice win, but if RC and RMC win today, there isn't even movement in the top rankings, let alone "chaos"."

Shs- I should have said 'seedings'. To clarify: with the top 2 teams now tied in their W-L records , many are now trying to figure out the tournament seedings. ...Just view the above posts.

dukeofargyle · February 21, 2009, 07:25:22 PM

Open question:

If an ODAC referee announces to a coach (with the entire bench hearing this) that he had just called what he knew was a completely bogus foul on a player because he "had to make up a missed foul on the other side of the floor in a previous play", what should the coach do? When this call is disputed by the coach, the fastest technical in the history of this game is called on the coach.

4 free throw points are gained by the opposing team on the opportunity of these 2 'fouls'. This team wins... by 4 points.

Does anyone know if this type of reffing is 'normal' for the ODAC? In most American high school districts, that ref would be made to turn in his zebra shirt permanently. I realize that the women's game (with some notable exceptions) will usually be given the less talented refs.

I can only hope that the refs for postseason are much more carefully selected.