WBB: Old Dominion Athletic Conference

wmjofva · February 03, 2011, 12:04:39 PM

Yes, it would be very hard for three ODAC teams to be in the regional ranking...actually if one is ranked high, that helps in case top seeded (and ranked) team doesn't win the ODAC tournament...like last year.

However if Bridgewater keeps winning and playing like they did against Roanoke then they are going to present a very nice package. Roanoke will finish out the season with only RM-C presenting a problem...and ranked teams beating each other isn't so bad.

If Bridgewater beats W &L, and loses to RM-C, I don't think that hurts them..if they keep playing well and winning. W&L could loss their next three games..they play Roanoke, Bridgewater and then RM-C.

Ofcourse everyone could beat everyone and nobody is ranked and only the winner of the ODAC tournament goes.

I would love to see the W &L games...they will be playing out of their minds to avoid being 5/6 or 7th in the conference standings!!

wmjofva · February 03, 2011, 01:04:35 PM

South Region
1. Greensboro 17-0 18-0
2. Christopher Newport 16-2 18-2
3. Louisiana College 15-1 17-1
4. Randolph-Macon 14-2 14-4
5. Roanoke 11-3 11-4
6. Texas-Dallas 15-4 16-4

D-3 hoops.com top 25 has #10 Christopher Newport and #16 Greensboro, Greensboro on 1/23/2011 beat CN at home; Christopher Newport is a very, very good team...it's other loss was to Thomas Moore in Hawaii on 12/19 and today Thomas Moore is rated #1 in the D-3 hoops.com top 25.

While the NCAA really places the teams A,B,C, it's of value to see these "top 25', regional ratings ....What we really should want for the ODAC conference is that our best team, best chance to advance, go to the NCAA's..this helps the conference rep in future ratings.

Bammer · February 03, 2011, 01:32:05 PM

I doubt that W&L will be a 7 seed. They could also win the next 3 games and BC could be looking at a 4 or 5 seeding like last year. I would not be so quick to put RMC, RC and BC in the NCAA just yet. A lot of basketball to be played. RMC amazes me yet I expect them to come back to earth. RC has not shown the ability in big games over the last few years. I still say BC goes as far as Burkholder and she has played superbly - so far. The ODAC soap opera still holds suspense and I think your reigning ODAC champion will have a big say on how it unfolds. It should be a great February for everybody. This is what makes for a strong conference.

BH2OFan · February 04, 2011, 07:55:18 AM

Getting wayyyy ahead of ourselves for just a minute, what are the tiebreakers for tournament seeding for teams with the same record?

Bammer · February 04, 2011, 08:09:50 AM

I believe the first tie-breaker is head-to- head games. This makes the Saturday W&L-BC even more important for seeding purposes. I am not so sure that seedings will be as important this year with the league having more parity.

GuyFormerlyPSBBG · February 04, 2011, 08:31:43 AM

Quote from: BH2OFan on February 03, 2011, 11:31:00 AM
Quote from: wmjofva on February 03, 2011, 09:32:18 AM
Great we have two ODAC teams rated; If Bridgewater can keep playing as they did, we could have three going into the ODAC tournament.

I am new to regional rankings, but I suspect that if BC moves in it will be at the expense of RC and/or RMC instead of in addition to as head to head outcomes (1 down, 1 to go ) with those clubs help BC the most. Of course results throughout the region could have all 3 there.

It will be tough to get 3 teams in. The GSAC, ASC still have teams that could be ranked too. With Bridgewater losing to both Roanoke and Randolph-Macon, its pretty unlikely to see 3 teams in from the ODAC. In my mind, Bridgewater would have to win out, to even give themselves a chance to be ranked.

Bammer · February 04, 2011, 09:02:20 AM

I believe that it will be tough to get 2 teams from the ODAC in. There are not enough quality wins to turn heads and get votes and there are some bad loses also. I heard that RC just barely got in last year and they had a really good record (but no quality wins). Winning in Salem is the only sure way to go to the NCAA.

BH2OFan · February 04, 2011, 10:20:42 AM

I agree with Bammer, after learning on the Top 25 forum there are 40+ conference bids it will be very hard to get an at-large. You can do everything right but have other tournament upsets dictate more deserving bids. In other words if you want to dance, Just Win Baby

GuyFormerlyPSBBG · February 04, 2011, 11:38:42 AM

Quote from: Bammer on February 04, 2011, 09:02:20 AM
I believe that it will be tough to get 2 teams from the ODAC in. There are not enough quality wins to turn heads and get votes and there are some bad loses also. I heard that RC just barely got in last year and they had a really good record (but no quality wins). Winning in Salem is the only sure way to go to the NCAA.

If 5 teams from the south got in last year and that is any indication for this year

Pool A:

Greensboro, Louisiana College, Randolph-Macon, Maryville

Pool C :
CNU

Yes, I agree. 2 would be tough

My prior post, I thought you guys were referring to the Regional Rankings.

BH2OFan · February 04, 2011, 12:07:52 PM

Quote from: GuyFormerlyPSBBG on February 04, 2011, 11:38:42 AM
Quote from: Bammer on February 04, 2011, 09:02:20 AM
My prior post, I thought you guys were referring to the Regional Rankings.

I started there, the conversation morphed into the Big Dance. To recap, from where I sit more than 2 in the regional rankings and more than one in the tournament will be tough to pull off.

whitecaylxx · February 05, 2011, 04:37:43 PM

The Washington and Lee Generals drop two BIG ones. They had their chances against Bridgewater, but as I said before - don't count Jean Willi and Jordan Burkholder out!

BH2OFan · February 06, 2011, 08:57:30 AM

Good win for BC over W&L. Much respect for the Gennies, absolutely no quit in them. Pfaffenstein couldn't go, we were told she had the flu bug- she absolutely killed BC with 3's in the first contest.
One interesting decision by W&L- with under a minute to go down by 4, they defended Burkholder straight up then immediately fouled Mullen when she got the ball- the conference's leading FT% shooter

Of course Jordan is not much worse, pick your poison

Anybody watch EMU knock off Roanoke? Heading for the box score and recap now but curious what transpired.

GuyFormerlyPSBBG · February 06, 2011, 09:08:10 AM

Looks like now a 3 team race in the ODAC...

RMC, Roanoke, BC

I am putting my money on BC on this one.

wmjofva · February 07, 2011, 09:27:40 AM

Great game by Bridgewater! W&L has played two games, Roanoke and Bridgewater, while a number of players have some effects of a virus...really fine effort on their part..they almost came all the way back.

Why coaches get gray hair...Willi had put Burkholder back into the game in the 1st half after she had two fouls..to stem the charge by W&L...and had gotten the lead back up to 10 or 12...with two mins to go to the end of half...she took her back out and was hoping they would just play out the half, using up clock and go in with that lead......but back up center jacked up 3 pt attempt..causing long rebound and breakaway basket for W &L and they go in with short lead...the paper explained it this way:

Over the final one and a half minutes, the Generals tallied all four points to cut the Bridgewater lead to a 30-22 halftime advantage.

dukeofargyle · February 07, 2011, 07:07:04 PM

Folks,
This is where a short roster really tells... 5 Gennies with that virulent flu bug last week. Plus, some all-nighters due to a physics test late in the week. Two in infirmary, one losing it right before game. Leaves you totally wiped. In fact, these were impact players. $:-\$

...here's hoping most have recovered by RMC game Tuesday.