WBB: Old Dominion Athletic Conference

[wmjofva]

A question for R-MC followers. Does the college charge admission to anyone to attend women's basketball games?

The last 2 years, no. But Bridgewater hasn't traveled there yet this year, so I defer to 2RMCFans for the latest.

Nor do they force the visitors to sit in the corner or on the hard seats....Bridgewater and EMU could learn from that.  I don't mind paying the $5 bucks (whatever) but I really didn't like the EMU director coming over and telling my 69 year old wife, she couldn 't sit on EMU's side,which had the soft seats and was safe to enter.   

[hoopstermom]

At R-MC, typically the hard bench bleacher seats are where the students sit, but seating is open for anyone to sit anywhere most of the time.   

Following the end of the 2005 season*, Crenshaw gym was refurbished with a new floor, new ventilation, new seating and a new coat of paint.  The stadium backed seats were installed on one side of the gym with new bleacher bench seats on the other side.  The stadium seats are sometimes marked for R-MC alum and supporters and visiting team guests during men's games when a large crowd is expected.  Not usually marked off during women's games but fans typically sit in the seats behind their respective team benches.  The stadium seats are not cushioned, but are formed into a comfortable shape for mature bottoms and the seat back is a definite plus.

Interestingly, and I really have no knowledge as to why, the R-MC men's team always sits on the bench closest to the main gym entrance, while the R-MC women's team uses the seats closest to the far side of the gym.  Anyone know why that is?

*trivia note - the last game played on the old floor at Crenshaw was the sectional final with R-MC women vs George Fox during their run to the NCAA DIII Championship finals. R-MC won 63-51 propelling them into the final four championship round.

[78rmc]

As to the team seating, since Crenshaw was built in 1962, the men's teams sat closest to their respective locker rooms, thus the current arrangement.  When the women came along in the 1970s, I think they wanted to simply be different (and not conform to those men), thus reversing the seating arrangement.  Plus the RMC women are also closer to their locker room as well.

[hoopstermom]

Okay 78 - well the proximity to the locker room theory makes sense.  I was one of those players in the 70's and I can say for sure non-conformity was not on our minds in those days, it was just thankfulness to get to use the "big" gym at all to play our games.

[y_jack_lok]

As to the team seating, since Crenshaw was built in 1962,

I know I'm being picky here, but I entered R-MC in the fall of 1963 and all 1963-64 games were played in Alumni Gym. I have fond memories of sitting on the old wood running track and watching Frank Kaminski demoralize opponents. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure construction on Crenshaw gym wasn't started until the end of the '63-'64 basketball season, and opened for competition with the '64-'65 season.

[BH2OFan]

A question for R-MC followers. Does the college charge admission to anyone to attend women's basketball games?

The last 2 years, no. But Bridgewater hasn't traveled there yet this year, so I defer to 2RMCFans for the latest.

Nor do they force the visitors to sit in the corner or on the hard seats....Bridgewater and EMU could learn from that.  I don't mind paying the $5 bucks (whatever) but I really didn't like the EMU director coming over and telling my 69 year old wife, she couldn 't sit on EMU's side,which had the soft seats and was safe to enter.   

While Bridgewater does post signs that would lead visitors to believe they should sit in the corners, I have a hard time believing anyone was ever chased out of any other seat in the gym. I took up my usual position opposite the benches a few rows up just about midcourt yesterday and was more or less surrounded by Yellow Jacket fans (a curiously quiet group ). 

With regards to admission, I don't have a complete rundown of who charges and who doesn't but it's interesting to note BC and EMU, who both do, are 1-2 in attendance so far this year.

[78rmc]

As to the team seating, since Crenshaw was built in 1962,

I know I'm being picky here, but I entered R-MC in the fall of 1963 and all 1963-64 games were played in Alumni Gym. I have fond memories of sitting on the old wood running track and watching Frank Kaminski demoralize opponents. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure construction on Crenshaw gym wasn't started until the end of the '63-'64 basketball season, and opened for competition with the '64-'65 season.

Yes, you're right, Crenshaw opened in 1964.  '62 did sound early.

[hasanova]

I realize this may play itself out in the final nine ODAC games, but if the season ended today, who would win the regular season title?  VWC, GC and EMU are all 10-1 and the head-to-head games have VWC beating EMU, EMU beating GC and GC beating VWC.  What's the next tie-breaker?

[BH2OFan]

EMU, by virtue of a pre-season drawing.

http://static.psbin.com/s/u/sy4fzhr4xws9km/2011-12_ODAC_Manual.pdf

Pages 23-25

[hasanova]

EMU, by virtue of a pre-season drawing.

http://static.psbin.com/s/u/sy4fzhr4xws9km/2011-12_ODAC_Manual.pdf

Pages 23-25

Thanks.  +1

[wmjofva]

While Bridgewater does post signs that would lead visitors to believe they should sit in the corners, I have a hard time believing anyone was ever chased out of any other seat in the gym. I took up my usual position opposite the benches a few rows up just about midcourt yesterday and was more or less surrounded by Yellow Jacket fans (a curiously quiet group ).  (Quote from BH20)


Interestly there were more parents from former players (RMC)at the Bridgwater game than playing parents.  We had great time talking during 1/2 time and after the game.  We only lost 13 odac games in our four years of our kids playing, so watching the efforts of this years team is interestlng to us.  Molly A parents had come down from Pa...I don't think that group ever lost at Bridgewater in four years.  I know my child came off a fractured cheek the night before, delayed getting her broken nose set so she could play and beat Burkholder and company.

Bridgewater was impressive running their offensive until they got the shot they wanted. 

[hasanova]

Just checked the ODAC scores today.  With Guilford winning over Roanoke while VWC and EMU lost to RMC and LC, respectively, that leaves the Quakers as the only ODAC team with one loss.  I know there's a long way to go, but I think this is the first time GC's been in first this late in the season in 9 or 10 years. 

[Brookland]

Only one true upset this weekend, LC over EMU. And what a game it was!
Unlike most upsets, where the favored team is flat and the winning team is hot, I did not see "flatness" in EMC. LC came out strong, EMU battled back and led by 4 at the half. Second half was hard fought with great defense and clutch offense from both sides. Lots of hustle, lots of good ball movement. It came down to the final possession and the Hornets pulled it out. A great game to watch!
Both teams shot very well (LC 54%, EMU 49%) and the stats were remarkably close. Identical numbers for rebounds (31) and TOs (20), very close for most other stats. Not many fouls for such a hard-fought game: 11 for EMU, 9 for LC, but that includes 3 deliberate fouls by EMU at the end.
For EMU, some great efforts by Yoders (25 pts) and Ygarza (18 pts) inside and Rheinheimer from the arc (6 of 9 from 3pt range for her 18 pts). LC scoring was more balanced (Allan 26, Kelley 12, Crump 11, Greenlief 9, three players with 6). Biggest statistical differences were in assists (LC 23, EMU 17) and blocks (LC 7, EMU 0).
By the way, LC's Shannon Allan is looking like the leading contender for ODAC Rookie of the Year. Against EMU she had 25 pts, 6 rebs, 2 assists, 5 steals and 5 blocks. With seconds left in the game, she hit both ends of the 1-and-1 that put the Hornets up by 3 and then blocked the final EMU 3-pt attempt at the other end. At the moment, she is near the top of the ODAC in multiple categories (9th in points, 5th in rebounds, 2nd in blocks, 7th in steals).
Does anyone else have a candidate for ROY?

[hoopstermom]

I think Sarah Parsons from R-MC is another candidate to consider for ROY.

Comparisons of stats:
                        Parsons       Rank in ODAC             Allan   Rank in ODAC
Points Per Game   14.3               6th                      13.8      10th
Field Goal %       46.6               6th                       43.7      12th
Reb/Game            3.8                *                         7.2      10th
Free Throw %      81.8              2nd                      79.7      4th
Steals Per Game    2.1              6th                         1.8     11th
Blocks Per Game    0                *                           1.7      2nd
            
Parsons is not ranked in rebounds/game or blocks per game, but she's only 5'2". I can't believe she's even averaging almost 4 rebounds per game.  Rankings were as of info on ODAC site today.

Either would be good selections.              

[ronk]

 I'll put in a plug for Sara Seipp of Va. Wesleyan for ROY; we'll see what happens in the rest of the season. Sara made the most improvement during her senior high school year of any player I watched and she seems to be continuing that this season.