WBB: Old Dominion Athletic Conference

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scottiedoug

Dave:  Why the shift in criteria from last week to next in the regional rankings?

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

It's because part of the criteria can't be used in the first week. You can't have "Results Versus Regionally Ranked Opponents" when there aren't any regionally ranked opponents in the first place. So the first Regional Rankings don't have that part of the criteria to be used. Next week will have the first regional rankings to fall back on for that data... which adds that to the mix AND will by default open up other comparisons that weren't there in the first place. Basically, as the men's committee chair said to me, it allows them to pull back another layer of the onion to see what is going on and make a better decision... or a more comprehensive one.
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scottiedoug

Thanks.  Had I taken the time to think about it, I would not have had to ask....

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

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2RMCFans

Katie Anderson is within 2 of the Jackets rebounding record held by Molly Ariail.  That's amazing!!

GO JACKETS!!!! 

y_jack_lok

Quote from: 2RMCFans on February 13, 2016, 10:12:41 AM
Katie Anderson is within 2 of the Jackets rebounding record held by Molly Ariail.  That's amazing!!

GO JACKETS!!!!

Not any more. Quite an accomplishment. Congrats to her.

2RMCFans

^Yes, while taking nothing away from the now all time #2 rebounder, Molly Ariail '10.   Sometimes it's hard to believe the quality of basketball YJ women have produced.  Hopefully, this is '06 Megan Silva's year for HOF.  (Or at least very soon.)

Tough road game for the women tonight.

GO JACKETS!!!

y_jack_lok

With the week Katie Anderson had, including ODAC Player of the Week, I was surprised not to see her on the d3hoops.com team of the week. I hope it wasn't an oversight on someone's part to not nominate her. Although the five players selected certainly had outstanding weeks as well.

http://www.d3hoops.com/awards/tow/2015-16/week12

2RMCFans

^ A big hand for Katie Anderson breaking the ODAC career rebounding record last night v. SU.  What an accomplishment for her! 

Congrats to all the teams heading to Salem tomorrow!

GO JACKETS!!!! 

2RMCFans

Good luck to all in Salem!

GO JACKETS!!!!

hoopstermom

Congratulations to all ODAC-team member selections!

I am a bit surprised that Katie Anderson was not the choice for POY however.  Not to take anything away from Jess Rheinheimer who is an outstanding player, but Anderson ranks 1st in 4 of the top stats categories for the season, and ahead of Rheinheimer in overall points, points per game, total rebounds and rebounds per game.  Anderson ranks higher than Rheinheimer in field goal percentage, steels per game and is has a FT % of .815 to JR's .827 with 50 more attempts.  The one category Rheinheimer holds a significant stat over Anderson is in 3 pt shots, which Anderson rarely  attempted (maybe 3 all year).  Chart below.

Given Anderson's ODAC record setting rebounding this year, total rebounds as well as a single game record of 28, combined with 18 double/double games, I just think her performance this year would have given her the nod.  EMU as a team has had slightly better success finishing 5th in the conference to RMC 7th place ranking, but I wouldn't think that would impact recognition of the individual's performance. 

                                    Rheinheimer   Anderson
Overall points scored            2nd – 495   1st - 517
Points per game                    2nd – 19.8   1st – 20.7
Total Rebounds                    11th - 168   1st - 310
Rebounds avg/game            11th – 6.7   1st – 12.4
Field Goal %                      8th - .480   5th - .529
Free Throws made/attempt        91-110           137-168
Free Throw Percentage       3rd - .827   4th - .815
Steels per game                     Not Ranked   9th – 2.0
3 pt %                               7th - .350   Not Ranked



CMR

Quote from: hoopstermom on February 24, 2016, 10:15:06 PM
Congratulations to all ODAC-team member selections!

I am a bit surprised that Katie Anderson was not the choice for POY however.  Not to take anything away from Jess Rheinheimer who is an outstanding player, but Anderson ranks 1st in 4 of the top stats categories for the season, and ahead of Rheinheimer in overall points, points per game, total rebounds and rebounds per game.  Anderson ranks higher than Rheinheimer in field goal percentage, steels per game and is has a FT % of .815 to JR's .827 with 50 more attempts.  The one category Rheinheimer holds a significant stat over Anderson is in 3 pt shots, which Anderson rarely  attempted (maybe 3 all year).  Chart below.

Given Anderson's ODAC record setting rebounding this year, total rebounds as well as a single game record of 28, combined with 18 double/double games, I just think her performance this year would have given her the nod.  EMU as a team has had slightly better success finishing 5th in the conference to RMC 7th place ranking, but I wouldn't think that would impact recognition of the individual's performance. 

                                    Rheinheimer   Anderson
Overall points scored            2nd – 495   1st - 517
Points per game                    2nd – 19.8   1st – 20.7
Total Rebounds                    11th - 168   1st - 310
Rebounds avg/game            11th – 6.7   1st – 12.4
Field Goal %                      8th - .480   5th - .529
Free Throws made/attempt        91-110           137-168
Free Throw Percentage       3rd - .827   4th - .815
Steels per game                     Not Ranked   9th – 2.0
3 pt %                               7th - .350   Not Ranked

Totally agree, this is not right!

2RMCFans

Congrats to all on conference honors received.  Glad to see Anderson & Livermon recognized on 1st & 2nd teams.  Agree POY looks a little off for this year, but maybe their 4 year stats comparison played a role? 

Looking forward to next season for a very young Jackets team!  GO JACKETS!!!!   


y_jack_lok

Quote from: 2RMCFans on February 26, 2016, 08:40:25 AM
Congrats to all on conference honors received.  Glad to see Anderson & Livermon recognized on 1st & 2nd teams.  Agree POY looks a little off for this year, but maybe their 4 year stats comparison played a role? 

Looking forward to next season for a very young Jackets team!  GO JACKETS!!!!

Previous years shouldn't matter. It is player of the YEAR for the current season only and could go to a freshman if warranted. The only thing missing from the above statistical comparison is assists. There is also defense that factors in. I have no idea how the two compare in those areas.

Hoping Coach LaHaye is bringing in some new faces that have the potential to be as good as the four who are graduating. Those four went through a challenging freshman year but got a lot of experience that paid dividends over their final three seasons.

hoopstermom

Quote from: y_jack_lok on February 26, 2016, 10:49:25 AM
Previous years shouldn't matter. It is player of the YEAR for the current season only and could go to a freshman if warranted. The only thing missing from the above statistical comparison is assists. There is also defense that factors in. I have no idea how the two compare in those areas.
Anderson    Rheinheimer
Assists                       45            51
Turnovers                   78            56
Asst/TO ratio               .6             .9
Steals                       51             29
Blocks                       19             11

Rheinheimer with better Assist to Turnover ratio, but Anderson better in steals and blocks (the defensive frame of reference). 

But time to  move on rooting for whichever ODAC team takes the championship into the NCAA playoffs.  GO ODAC!!!