WBB: Old Dominion Athletic Conference

[justafan02]

I saw a Marlin player help up a fallen Maroon today.   

[Matt Barnhart (kid)]

So now we are going to started editing peoples opinions. You don't have to agree with what I say but i am sue I am not the only person in the ODAC that feels this way, even if those people aren't posting on this web page. The stat crew CAN be changed with just a few extra minutes of work, I HAVE USED and am very aware of the proccess, and if someone wanted to change it they very easly could. Fact of the matter is if every one would stop being so in awe of RMC and start paying attention to some of the things that goes on at that place they would be surprised. And i'm not even talking about girls bball any more I am talking about all the sports at that place. Go to a home game count the people there then check the attendance on the box score....Yeah try and figure those numbers out and make them add up. but hey you dont have to believe a word I say what do i know.

What is your problem with R-MC?  Did we deny you admission?  Or are you simply tired of losing to us? What issues are you referring to 'at that place'?  What specifically would surprise me or anyone else 'at that place'?  Your openended accusations are tiredsome.

lol ... agreed.

I think we need to stop entertaining this poster.  He/she is clearly just uninformed or messing around.

Either way, I know that I'm at least done responding to him/her.

[odacbballfan]

I saw a Marlin player help up a fallen Maroon today.   

shhhhhhhhh don't tell anyone because that will go against thier ideals that everyone else in the ODAC is evil.......

[78rmc]

I saw a Marlin player help up a fallen Maroon today.   

shhhhhhhhh don't tell anyone because that will go against thier ideals that everyone else in the ODAC is evil.......

In yesterday's game against Roanoke, there was a hard collison in the back court between Silva and a Roanoke defender, who laid on the floor for several minutes.  After the player was help to their bench and before play restarted, Silva went to the Roanoke bench to make sure she was okay.  Even though the defender was the aggressor and there was no call on the floor, Silva was concerned about the Roanoke player.  A class act by Silva.

[odacbballfan]

I saw a Marlin player help up a fallen Maroon today.   

shhhhhhhhh don't tell anyone because that will go against thier ideals that everyone else in the ODAC is evil.......

In yesterday's game against Roanoke, there was a hard collison in the back court between Silva and a Roanoke defender, who laid on the floor for several minutes.  After the player was help to their bench and before play restarted, Silva went to the Roanoke bench to make sure she was okay.  Even though the defender was the aggressor and there was no call on the floor, Silva was concerned about the Roanoke player.  A class act by Silva.

Again.... Just in case, because people seem to always read whatever they want. At no point in any of my posings have I ever said that Silva is anything but a class act. i wouldn't expect anything less from her. and I am sure that she was truley concerned about the injury.

[Matt Barnhart (kid)]

A note on this past Saturday's EMU/BC game...

The Royals' Stephanie Mathews was the third-best player I've seen this year.

I'm looking forward to seeing Jennifer King (GC) this coming weekend.  After seeing six of the ODAC teams, this is my current All-ODAC 1st team;

Orton (R-MC)
Mathews (EMU)
Kinder (BC)
Silva (R-MC)
Herr (BC)

I sure hope King doesn't impress me, because I would have no clue who I would take off the above list.

[emufan]

If I had to take one person off of your list, I would take Orton off.  She is an average post player who is playing for a great team.  I am not taking anything away from her, but she gets the recognition because of the team she is associated with. I don't think she deserves to be on the pre-season all american team.  That is my main and only 'beef' with her.  Obviously, it isn't her fault, she didn't select herself.

EMU's Amanda Renelds deserves just as much praise as Orton.

Renalds leads in scoring while Orton leads in rebounding (conference stats only).  However, over their entire career, I would say that Renalds has had a more impressive individual career. 1000 pt scorer, and.  multi ODAC player of the week honors.


After a little research, their stats are pretty close.  These career stats are entering this season:
Renalds: 12.5 pts, 6.7 rebs.
Orton: 10.8, 7.1 rebs.

[wetback]

RMC padding the stats for silva..?...?  It sucks that a person who puts so much hard work and time into something that they love, has to hear someone belittle all their efforts with a comment like that.  She is a tremendous player with more talent than I have ever seen, rumor has it that she was born with the spalding logo right under her right foot.  So lets try and give credit where credit is due, swallowing your pride and for once looking at her as someone who gave meaning to  the phrase "You can do anything you want, if you put your mind to it".

[GAVA]

So now we are going to started editing peoples opinions. You don't have to agree with what I say but i am sue I am not the only person in the ODAC that feels this way, even if those people aren't posting on this web page. The stat crew CAN be changed with just a few extra minutes of work, I HAVE USED and am very aware of the proccess, and if someone wanted to change it they very easly could. Fact of the matter is if every one would stop being so in awe of RMC and start paying attention to some of the things that goes on at that place they would be surprised. And i'm not even talking about girls bball any more I am talking about all the sports at that place. Go to a home game count the people there then check the attendance on the box score....Yeah try and figure those numbers out and make them add up. but hey you dont have to believe a word I say what do i know.

What is your problem with R-MC?  Did we deny you admission?  Or are you simply tired of losing to us? What issues are you referring to 'at that place'?  What specifically would surprise me or anyone else 'at that place'?  Your openended accusations are tiredsome.

lol ... agreed.

I think we need to stop entertaining this poster.  He/she is clearly just uninformed or messing around.

Either way, I know that I'm at least done responding to him/her.

agreed

[wetback]

well at least we can scratch the whole fact of the matter.....clearly a jealousy issue.

[odacbballfan]

Renalds leads in scoring while Orton leads in rebounding (conference stats only).  However, over their entire career, I would say that Renalds has had a more impressive individual career. 1000 pt scorer, and.  multi ODAC player of the week honors.


After a little research, their stats are pretty close.  These career stats are entering this season:
Renalds: 12.5 pts, 6.7 rebs.
Orton: 10.8, 7.1 rebs.

And this is what is so funny to me. Post after post about why anyone would pad stats, there is no reason to pad stats blah blah blah and then every post about the all ODAC team has been about players and their stats. So and so had these numbers she should be all-ODAC. I would just like to point out that on none of the all ODAC posts has there been a player from a team that is 13-4 overall (only 4 losses must mean they will be getting some top 25 votes i think they beat Hollins this weekend) and 10-2 in the conference. Why? Well I am guessing because they have only 1 player averaging in double figures because of the type system that they run. The highest min per game on the team is 24. No stats to speak of except 10 conference wins. Yes every player listed on all the all-odac posts are great players and worthy of the nominations, but just another example of how narrow-minded most of us are.

[Matt Barnhart (kid)]

If I had to take one person off of your list, I would take Orton off.  She is an average post player who is playing for a great team.  I am not taking anything away from her, but she gets the recognition because of the team she is associated with. I don't think she deserves to be on the pre-season all american team.  That is my main and only 'beef' with her.  Obviously, it isn't her fault, she didn't select herself.

EMU's Amanda Renelds deserves just as much praise as Orton.

Renalds leads in scoring while Orton leads in rebounding (conference stats only).  However, over their entire career, I would say that Renalds has had a more impressive individual career. 1000 pt scorer, and.  multi ODAC player of the week honors.


After a little research, their stats are pretty close.  These career stats are entering this season:
Renalds: 12.5 pts, 6.7 rebs.
Orton: 10.8, 7.1 rebs.

I'm leaning towards that ... taking Orton off if King impresses me.  I was just trying not to be so guard-heavy on my All-ODAC 1st team ... but hey, if this is the year of the guard, then so be it.

I think there are four post players that are about even (but with strengths in different areas)...

Orton (R-MC)
Hunsinger (W&L)
Renalds (EMU)
Phillips (VWC)

IMO, Hunsinger is the better defender, while Phillips is the better rebounder.  Orton and Renalds do a great job of complimenting Silva and Mathews.

[upper90]

Renalds leads in scoring while Orton leads in rebounding (conference stats only).  However, over their entire career, I would say that Renalds has had a more impressive individual career. 1000 pt scorer, and.  multi ODAC player of the week honors.

Can you really count an impressive career toward an all-ODAC nomination, i mean that is the whole point to pass judgement on the year not the career.  If someone finally steps it up (which if you look at Orton and her ability to get up and down the court this year, to keep herself out of foul-trouble, and her basic unstoppablity under the rim, you would see why I would keep her on the all-ODAC team.) should you deny them what they have worked to improve upon?

[odacbballfan]

[quote author=emufan

After a little research, their stats are pretty close.  These career stats are entering this season:
Renalds: 12.5 pts, 6.7 rebs.
Orton: 10.8, 7.1 rebs.

I think we should also take a look at their high school stats in order to break the tie.

[emufan]

Upper 90,

I think you have to look at the entire career when the player is a senior.  Emily Mullet(EMU) scored over 1500 career points. Lead the nation in scoring and three point shooting throughout her career.    She was on some sort of "all odac" team for her first three years.  However, during her senior year, she had some coaches who surrounded her with good players and so her scoring dropped big time, but she picked up more wins.  What does the ODAC coaches do, leave her off  ALL  the end of the season odac teams.  Just NOT right.

Odacbballfan,

I think you are being sarcastic, but I will play along.  Renalds has two high school state championships.  Beat that!