WBB: Old Dominion Athletic Conference

[GAVA]

Darn it has gotten quiet in here since the Marlin players and fans quit posting.

[Matt Barnhart (kid)]

Bridgewater 36
Roanoke 26

HALF

The Eagles finished the half on a 15-3 run.

[Jeremybozz]

BC 72, Roanoke 51   FINAL

   Maybe the voters will take that into consideration next week if BC wins the rest of its games. One of BC's losses was to Mary Washington, the only unbeaten team in d3 women's hoops.
    I am not saying that BC is a top 25 team but I thought a voter or 2 would have BC ranked #25.

[Jeremybozz]

  As good as RMC is, no one can convince me they are at least 32 spots ahead of Bridgewater after they beat E&H by only 3.

[sunny]

    I am not saying that BC is a top 25 team but I thought a voter or 2 would have BC ranked #25.

I've never understood this line of reasoning.  Voters are supposed to rank the top 25 teams, but it seems like a lot of people expect a voter or two to just throw a vote their school's way so that they show up in "others receiving votes."

If one voter put Bridgewater at 24, that's two points in the poll, but maybe that voter would be the only one who would put Bridgewater in the top 35, much less 25.  Meanwhile, Bridgewater is currently not receiving any top 25 votes, but might be in the top 30 of several voters.

This is why you can't put much stock in the vote totals of teams "receiving votes" outside of teams who finished just outside of the top 25 (within 10 points or less).  Because one, a couple, or a handful of people might put team A in the 20-25 range doesn't necessarily indicate where the 25 voters on average would place that team.  If you want to look at the voters' opinions on teams 26-50, you'd have to ask the voters to rank 50 teams.

The only thing you can conclude is that none of the voters put Bridgewater in their top 25 this week.  That's it.  You can't start counting all of the team's receiving votes and say that the voters ranked Bridgewater behind them all.  The voters are only asked to vote for 25 teams, not 45.  This also why it bothers me when a school promotes itself or an opponent as being ranked 29th or 33rd or whatever.  It's a top 25 poll.  If you aren't in the top 25, you aren't ranked.

[huskiect]

I like VWC. I read but do not often post. VWC did take it on the chin this weekend. It probably served several purposes that will make their team stronger. VWC has been facing some injuries that have not been talked about here. They are a team of many but they did have a rotation and were use to playing in certain spots and roles. Due to the injuries the team chemistry changed a bit. This has taken them a little time to get use to it.

They have a big game against RMC this weekend. They probably still will not be completely healthy. With a good finish to the year VWC will be the #3 seed. I think BC or RMC would not be happy to see them in their bracket.

[hasanova]

forget that...GC 79 VWC 64
King plays 38 minutes and scores 32

Silva going to have tough time staying ahead of King in points with King playing 38 minutes a game. Silva's lead was only 23 points going into todays' games.

Silva lead down to 18 points. King averaging greater than 5 minutes more playing time per game. 6 games each left. Silva's Sr. year. I say let her play all game every game to beat King.

Well, it's King's Senior year too.  King needs to play those minutes to give the Quakers a chance to win, Silva may not.   Go Quakers!

[Jeremybozz]

  I can appreciate that Chicago has a tough schedule but so does BC. Chicago is 14-4 but #5 in their conference at 3-4 and Chicago has lost 3 of its last 4 games yet got votes.
 Catholic and BC are both 15-4 and have one common opponent. BC lost to Mary Washington 85-67 while Catholic lost to Mary Washington 70-51. If BC and Catholic would play it may go into overtime. Catholic got votes, BC did not.

[Jeremybozz]

  Christopher Newport lost to Virginia Wesleyan but beat Catholic by 2 points.

[Jeremybozz]

RMC should beat Alvernia tonight but will face a tough game at #41 Richard Stockton. That contest will be a back to back game night for both squads on Thursday.

[Jeremybozz]

  Mary Washington at Catholic should be interesting tonight ( I know Catholic does not compete in the ODAC in hoops).
  Mary Washington should have the edge but at home you never know what Catholic might do.

[Jeremybozz]

Otterbein is 15-4 while Trinity TX is 14-4. BC will face a tough game at Virginia Wesleyan while RMC gets to face VW at home.

[sunny]

 I can appreciate that Chicago has a tough schedule but so does BC. Chicago is 14-4 but #5 in their conference at 3-4 and Chicago has lost 3 of its last 4 games yet got votes.
 Catholic and BC are both 15-4 and have one common opponent. BC lost to Mary Washington 85-67 while Catholic lost to Mary Washington 70-51. If BC and Catholic would play it may go into overtime. Catholic got votes, BC did not.

You're forgetting that Catholic is the only team this year to beat Scranton, who is in the top five.  To some people, that makes a big difference.

Also, you don't know if Catholic is getting "votes."  They may just be getting one 21st place vote - that would give them their five points.  At MOST, five people voted for Catholic (if they all voted them 25th).  I don't think that's a ringing endorsement by the pollsters as a group for Catholic over Bridgewater. 

Once again, this is why looking at teams with a handful of points and saying "how come they got votes and our team didn't?" is a futile exercise.  You're chastising one to five voters, not 25.

Otterbein, Chicago, and Trinity (whose four losses are by a total of 15 points, including one in OT) both got fewer than 10 points as well.  If you want to make a case for Bridgewater being in the top 25, make a case for them over one of the teams in the top 25 or over Washington and Jefferson or George Fox (since they both narrowly missed out). 

Otherwise, you're not so much arguing why Bridgewater should be ranked, you're really just arguing why some of those teams that a couple people put at the bottom of their polls shouldn't be.  The majority of the voters agree with you that Trinity (TX), Otterbein, and Chicago shouldn't have been ranked this week.  That's why those teams aren't ranked.

I think a case can be made for Bridgewater over George Fox at this point in the season - I think some of the voters were out to lunch on George Fox this week. 

[GAVA]

Silva lead down to 18 points. King averaging greater than 5 minutes more playing time per game. 6 games each left. Silva's Sr. year. I say let her play all game every game to beat King.

Well, it's King's Senior year too.  King needs to play those minutes to give the Quakers a chance to win, Silva may not.   Go Quakers!

Not true. King plays 38 minutes per game, even when they win by 15 like last 2 games. This is about being ODAC's leading scorer ( actually highest ppg as RM plays a game less than GC ).
I say let them both play all the time and shoot it out.

[GAVA]

RMC should beat Alvernia tonight

RM wins 79-67. Goes 15 of 16 from charity stripe. Silva only scores 10 in 32 minutes.