WBB: Old Dominion Athletic Conference

[bbingit]

My picks for tournament: RMC vs RC in semis; GC VS EMU AND THEN RC VS EMU IN THE FINALS AND RC TO WIN IT ALL!

[GAVA]

My picks for tournament: RMC vs RC in semis; GC VS EMU AND THEN RC VS EMU IN THE FINALS AND RC TO WIN IT ALL!

GC beating VWC? I'd like a piece of that action !! RC beating BC, RMC, and EMU.....wow!!!! Do you play poker???

[odacbballfan]

If we arent basing this on careers, I would say Erin Hanson would be the pick for POY as far as the season goes.

We ARENT basing it on careers it is called player of the YEAR not player of the Career.....

[RMCAlum30]

My picks for tournament: RMC vs RC in semis; GC VS EMU AND THEN RC VS EMU IN THE FINALS AND RC TO WIN IT ALL!

Wow... I'll give it to you that Roanoke ALWAYS brings their A game to the tournament, but winning it all? I dunno about that one...

[fairmont1113]

I am not so sure you can really say that Roanoke gets hot tournament time. Over the years they have had a lot of success in the ODAC, but if you look at the current group of seniors this is their record in the ODAC tournament...1-3

In 2003-2004 they lost in the quarterfinals to Bridgewater 58-50

In 2004-2005 they lost in the quarterfinals to Bridgewater 73-72

In 2005-2006 they lost in the semifinals to Bridgewater 69-54

So, Roanoke getting hot tourney time? I am not sure that is really a valid statement. I guess if they are getting hot at tourney time, then BC has been the ones to cool them off every year.

Roanoke seniors ODAC tourney record- 1-3
Bridgewater seniors ODAC tourney record- 5-3

Roanoke has had a good year, but I will go with BC to avoid the season sweep by knocking off the Maroons on Friday.

[odac fan 4 life]

One of the women I work with is a huge RMC fan as her two kids went there. Both of her children (both graduated) still follow all the RMC sports. She was telling me that the past two years when RMC was ranked nationally in the top 10 and was dominant in the ODAC, that they were always overly confident about their chances in the ODAC tournament. She said this year her and her kids are worried because she believes all 5 seeds have a legitimate chance of taking the title.

I know I am worrying about my marlins, but if you look at our tournament record over the years I have planty of reason to worry, but its good to know that there are RMC faithfuls out there joining us other ODAC fans in the nervousness and worrying that leads up to a tournament.

[baller116]

She was telling me that the past two years when RMC was ranked nationally in the top 10 and was dominant in the ODAC, that they were always overly confident about their chances in the ODAC tournament.

I know from first hand experience that RMC was not overly confident.. maybe just confident that they had what it took to win which they ended up proving.. and I am sure from there season this year with the 20 wins, they have confidence in themselves to do it again..

[odac fan 4 life]

She was telling me that the past two years when RMC was ranked nationally in the top 10 and was dominant in the ODAC, that they were always overly confident about their chances in the ODAC tournament.

I know from first hand experience that RMC was not overly confident.. maybe just confident that they had what it took to win which they ended up proving.. and I am sure from there season this year with the 20 wins, they have confidence in themselves to do it again..

what's your honest, no bias take on it, baller116? is RMC less confident this year then the past two years? the past two years they had a total of 1 ODAC loss. this year they have three and several close calls.

[whitecaylxx]

POY....Hanson from Roanoke....she has the Maroons winning down the stretch and heading into the tournament with some steam, making them a very dangerous opponent for anyone...unlike Bridgewater which lost YET three games in a row

She certainly didn't bring her "A" game against W & L, and she can't do it by herself.  Bridgewater for the matchup.

[RMCAlum30]

She was telling me that the past two years when RMC was ranked nationally in the top 10 and was dominant in the ODAC, that they were always overly confident about their chances in the ODAC tournament.

I know from first hand experience that RMC was not overly confident.. maybe just confident that they had what it took to win which they ended up proving.. and I am sure from there season this year with the 20 wins, they have confidence in themselves to do it again..

what's your honest, no bias take on it, baller116? is RMC less confident this year then the past two years? the past two years they had a total of 1 ODAC loss. this year they have three and several close calls.

How could R-MC be overconfident about their chances in the ODAC tourney the past two years??? That is a ridiculous statement (and I know your coworker said that... not you, so that's no criticism to you, odac fan 4 life).
R-MC was undefeated (in the ODAC) going into the ODAC tourney in 2005, and only had one ODAC loss going into the tourney in 2006. It would be a crime not to be the most confident out of all the teams with those records to back you up.
Regardless, I think that there are a lot of teams that should be confident coming into the tournament this year. However, that doesn't make me any less confident in my Jackets, and I'm sure they know that there's a tough road ahead of them this weekend. BUT, I'm sure they have more than enough confidence to get them through ODACs this year.

[odac fan 4 life]

She was telling me that the past two years when RMC was ranked nationally in the top 10 and was dominant in the ODAC, that they were always overly confident about their chances in the ODAC tournament.

I know from first hand experience that RMC was not overly confident.. maybe just confident that they had what it took to win which they ended up proving.. and I am sure from there season this year with the 20 wins, they have confidence in themselves to do it again..

what's your honest, no bias take on it, baller116? is RMC less confident this year then the past two years? the past two years they had a total of 1 ODAC loss. this year they have three and several close calls.

How could R-MC be overconfident about their chances in the ODAC tourney the past two years??? That is a ridiculous statement (and I know your coworker said that... not you, so that's no criticism to you, odac fan 4 life).
R-MC was undefeated (in the ODAC) going into the ODAC tourney in 2005, and only had one ODAC loss going into the tourney in 2006. It would be a crime not to be the most confident out of all the teams with those records to back you up.
Regardless, I think that there are a lot of teams that should be confident coming into the tournament this year. However, that doesn't make me any less confident in my Jackets, and I'm sure they know that there's a tough road ahead of them this weekend. BUT, I'm sure they have more than enough confidence to get them through ODACs this year.

well said....there should be a lot of confident teams....it should be a fun tournament for all of us fans!

[baller116]

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what's your honest, no bias take on it, baller116? is RMC less confident this year then the past two years? the past two years they had a total of 1 ODAC loss. this year they have three and several close calls.
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My take on it is that RMC may be less dangerous than years in the past, but they have proven this year that with or without Silva, they can win. I really believe these girls have what it takes to win the whole thing. People that say RMC was overconfident never must have interacted with the team themself the past two years because the whole motto was to take one game at a time.. never to get too confident and the girls never did. These were a classy group of players and I feel honored to have known them.

[valleybballfan]

talking about a classy group....I just wanted to comend the group of seniors from BC on their outstanding class on and off the court. Shannon Scales, Jessica Young, and Katy Herr Lovell have made dean's list every semester since being in school, and all three have now been accepted into graduate school to get their doctorate in physical therapy. It's neat that these three young ladies are all going into the same field and have all had such successful careers (in the classroom and on the court) at BC.

(I am not sure what Amy Childs, the other senior, plans to do after college?)

[ihavenolife]

I worked directly with R-MC athletic teams for six years -- and in all honesty, I never saw the women's basketball team as being "overconfident" heading into the ODAC tournament.  The coaching staff and players always respected the opponents, knowing anything could happen. 

They also went into the tournament extremely prepared for ANY possible opponents, should they move on from the quarterfinals.  It's hard to practice for three straight games, especially not knowing who your upcoming opponents will be if you advance.  But I do know that as much as possible, it's true -- R-MC tried to take it "one game at a time" and did not take anything for granted.

[valleybballfan]

Had a conversation today with a past SID, and he filled me in a little bit on some of the criteria for POY, FOY, and all conference honors. I am not sure if this is what every SID reviews, or just this particular one? Did not think to ask him that.

He said.....

You look at scoring, and then overall point production.

Scoring is of course your scoring average.

Overall Point Production (OPP) is your scoring avg. plus your assists x 2. That is, your OPP is all the points you contribute in a game.

Depending on your position, certain weight is given to certain stats. A post will be expected to rebound and block more and  assist and turnover less. A guard will be expected to do the opposite. The turnovers are because the guards handle the ball more. Scoring is seen as important for any position, and steals, assist-turnover ratio, shooting %s, and minutes played are typically given the same weight for every position.

I know that Katy Herr Lovell and Erin Hanson seem to be the two front runners for POY, so I decided to post all of their stats.

ERIN HANSON  6'0   Post                KATY HERR LOVELL  5'4  Guard

Scoring-  19.1                                         13.0

OPP-       23.02                                      21.88

Minutes-   29.6                                       34.0

FG%-       .497                                        .401

3FG%-     .401                                       .346

FT%-        .830                                        .837

REB-         244                                         151

OFF-          56                                           53

DEF-         188                                          98

Reb. Avg.- 9.8                                         6.0

Ass.           49                                         111

TO-            97                                          51

Ass./TO-   0.50                                       2.18

Blk.-          23                                          12

Stl.-           47                                          98

Also, where a player ranks in their conference statistical standings pulls some weight because it shows how a player matched up to other players in games.

       HANSON                                LOVELL

1st-       2                                        3

Top 5-   4                                        4

Top 10- 6                                        6

Top 15- 8                                       10

(I did not include turnovers in this )


Things that do not affect these decisions.......

1. A player's political affiliation
2. The level of the player's attractiveness
3. A player's team's hot streak 


When looking at all of this, I still see KHL as the POY simply because she is without a doubt the best at her position in the ODAC, and she is invaluable to her team. If she is taken out you notice, hence her 34.0 minutes a game. Erin Hanson is an amazing player, but she has a few things that hold her back from being the BEST, especially her tendency to force sometimes, hence her turnovers. I went to the WLU vs. RC game where WLU beat the Maroons, and there was two different times when Hanson made very poor decisions and Coach Dunagon took her out because of it. She's amazing, that is for sure, just not the best. However, make your own decision, the ODAC will certainly make their decision here in just a few hours.