WBB: Old Dominion Athletic Conference

[odac fan 4 life]

I was dissapointed with our men's team as I sat near them at the game and they acted like middle school boys yelling and being inappropiate, as well as some of the fans...however...I think anywhere you go you will find that. I was also a little dissapointed with some of the RMC fans...I attended the Lynchburg vs. RMC game, and there were many times throughout the game that the RMC fans (adults) were signaling out players and yelling at them, and they yelled at Coach Tobey on numerous occasions.

I also ran into some very gracious RMC fans who were enjoyable to talk to, and I know many Marlins fans who are top notch people and class acts.

I think, as with any sport and any school, there are going to be very annoying fans who act immature, and there will be very classy fans who show good sportsmanship.

The only thing I was dissapointed with was our men's team as I exected them to act a little more their age....as for our girls' team....I know that at the end it might have seemed they acted unclassy, but I think it is just because they wanted it sooo badly that they were extremely dissapointed, I am not sure they meant any disrespect.

[baller116]

I was dissapointed with our men's team as I sat near them at the game and they acted like middle school boys yelling and being inappropiate, as well as some of the fans...however...I think anywhere you go you will find that.

You shouldn't find that from returning national champions at all.

[Old School Marlin]

I think, as with any sport and any school, there are going to be very annoying fans who act immature, and there will be very classy fans who show good sportsmanship.




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Oh yeah, you will find it anywhere and everywhere.  It's a shame that the men had to act that way during the tourney, but I've been to plenty games where the student sections which have included members of the men's team have acted in the same exact way- including R-MC. 

[Old School Marlin]

Anyway, moving past all that, I'm still rooting for R-MC.  I finally got to see them play watching the championship game on the internet Sunday.  Molly Arial is a rockstar for being only a freshman.  She's very smooth and if she gets the ball down low with anyone smaller guarding her (which the Piedmont girls will be) she's good for two.  And I thought Kristen Morgan was a real presence on the floor for Macon as well. Looks like Piedmont is a bit vulnerable (like some teams in the ODAC), going into OT against Roanoke this season.  The Jackets should take care of business.  Anyone know who they'd get the second round?

[GAVA]

  The Jackets should take care of business.  Anyone know who they'd get the second round?

My guess, McDaniel, rated in top 20. Should be a real test.

[hoopstermom]

Any update on the Marlin player who went down late in the game Sunday...I think it was Michele Dove? I hope she's OK. Wasn't sure if was knee injury or not, but would be unfortunate if it was serious. 

[GAVA]

http://www.d3hoops.com/scoreboard/womensrpi07.htm

The power ranking to be used next year will be even tougher on the ODAC.
Looks like no more at large bids in our future unless radical changes made, such as playing each league member once and scheduling another 10 nonconference games.

[GAVA]

http://www.d3hoops.com/scoreboard/womensrpi07.htm

The power ranking to be used next year will be even tougher on the ODAC.
Looks like no more at large bids in our future unless radical changes made, such as playing each league member once and scheduling another 10 nonconference games.

Under next year's rankings RMC finished 66 instead of 39, and VWC finishes 87 instead of 64.

[hoopstermom]

Are they for sure going to this rating system next year?

[mybleedinghands]

http://www.d3hoops.com/scoreboard/womensrpi07.htm

The power ranking to be used next year will be even tougher on the ODAC.
Looks like no more at large bids in our future unless radical changes made, such as playing each league member once and scheduling another 10 nonconference games.

Do you have any idea how incredibly hard it would be to schedule FIFTEEN non-conference games??? A team would practically ahve to play 15 games before the January, because once January rolls around nearly every school is playing all conference games. A better solution would be to break into six team divisions by adding another school (which is more likely than not to happen in the near future) and play the teams in your division twice and the teams in the other division once, which would give you sixteen games (10 games in division, 6 out of division). Then all you have to do is schedule four more non-conference games, which can be easily handled.

[GAVA]

Are they for sure going to this rating system next year?

  pretty sure

[GAVA]

http://www.d3hoops.com/scoreboard/womensrpi07.htm

The power ranking to be used next year will be even tougher on the ODAC.
Looks like no more at large bids in our future unless radical changes made, such as playing each league member once and scheduling another 10 nonconference games.

Do you have any idea how incredibly hard it would be to schedule FIFTEEN non-conference games??? A team would practically ahve to play 15 games before the January, because once January rolls around nearly every school is playing all conference games. A better solution would be to break into six team divisions by adding another school (which is more likely than not to happen in the near future) and play the teams in your division twice and the teams in the other division once, which would give you sixteen games (10 games in division, 6 out of division). Then all you have to do is schedule four more non-conference games, which can be easily handled.

The problem with ODAC is we have some very weak teams. You lose ranking when you play them, even when you win. 2 divisions might work if the stronger teams were in one division, and the weaker teams in the other.  6 games against Hollins, RMWC and E&H kills your power rating.

[mybleedinghands]

Here's waht I would do with the two division format:

Each team would be ranked 1-12 based on their overall record in ODAC play the apst 4 years, and after 4 years the divisions would be realigned based on each team's record over the past 4 years. so every 4 years the divisions would change. and here is how the two divisions would align

Division A gets teams seeded 1, 4, 5, 8, 9, and 12
Division B gets teams seeded 2, 3, 6, 7, 10, and 11

I think it would be unfair to put the bottom 6 teams in one division and the upper 6 in the other. That would make it a lot harder on the top 6 and a lot easier on the bottom 6. It would only PENALIZE a team for doing well because then they have to face all the good and better teams twice while the only get to face the easier opponents once. Sure it helps with strength of schedule and rpi and all that stuff if you are in the top 6 division, but none of that will matter when you could have a lot more losses than one of the teams in the lower 6 division. Imagine if Lynchburg would have had to play GC, E&H, RMWC, and HU twice this year, and only the other 6 once. They would have been 7-7 based on the results of their past season. Now imagine if W&L would have had to play in the top 6 division, they would have finished, based on the seasons results either 6-9 or 7-8 (they split with GC). Now who was the better team this year, W&L or LC? Records in real life say W&L, records based on your divisional split say LC.

[huskiect]

From that article:

"With the Marlins within striking distance, LaHaye said the Yellow Jackets only had to remember how they were laughed at after losing at Virginia Wesleyan on Dec. 6.

"We remember sitting in the Virginia Wesleyan locker room, and they were cheering and running up and down the hallways," LaHaye said. "I just looked at my very hurting team and said to them, 'they are cheering now, but let's see who's cheering at the end of the season.'"

Guess being happy to beat a team who they NEVER did in four+ years is not kosher with Lahaye.  But hey, I guess she'll say whatever it takes for them to come out and win their third straight ODAC tournament.  I really don't know who was "laughing" at her team for losing to the first/second place team all year (VWC).  I might be a little oversensitive to it, but that comment really bothers me.

They were most definitly "laughed" at.... Even though VWC was ranked above them, because of the previous two years in which RMC had done so well it still was a little surprising for VWC to get the win even if it took 4 years. I think the win got to their heads too much which is maybe why they were running up and down the halls cheering... you would never see RMC doing that after a victory... even when they beat scranton two years ago to make it to the national championship, you save it for the locker room to celebrate. I think instead of criticsizing LaHaye's statement, we should celebrate RMC's victory and hope that they represent the ODAC well in the NCAA's.

I am happy for RMC and hope they represent the ODAC well. Perhaps the RMC coach did not mean anything but I thought her comments were childish. VWC was not making fun of RMC when they beat them. They were celebrating. These kids had been beaten by RMC badly for 4 straight years. Even last year they got pounded. LaHaye could have chosen some better words.

[huskiect]

I, also, question the sportsmanship of the Marlin players and fans.  At the ODAC tournament, Marlin fans (mens basketball players included) sat on the opposing side, harrassing the other teams players and fans.  The Marlin women were constantly yelling from the bench, and were not very gracious winners - from what I could see - very childish behavior.  You would think the VWC coach would encourage better sportsmanship.  The Marlins are a very talented group of players who have earned their place in the sun.  However, Randolph Macon is a very classy act in comparison.

I, also, question the sportsmanship of the Marlin players and fans.  At the ODAC tournament, Marlin fans (mens basketball players included) sat on the opposing side, harrassing the other teams players and fans.  The Marlin women were constantly yelling from the bench, and were not very gracious winners - from what I could see - very childish behavior.  You would think the VWC coach would encourage better sportsmanship.  The Marlins are a very talented group of players who have earned their place in the sun.  However, Randolph Macon is a very classy act in comparison.

What tournament were you at?