MBB: Liberty League

[buck1053]

buck,
No big deal and it didn't really make a difference because they played at SLU but   Hobart was the #2 seed and Skidmore was the #3 seed this year. And just maybe that Coach of the Year voting was justified last night when Hobart took the rubber match from Skidmore on a neutral court. Just a thought as I don't have an allegiance to either team.  

I guess the LL site had the seedings wrong, that's where I got it from.

Metz certainly got the better of Flockerzi last night, and their finish was pretty impressive. I was just using some historical perspective when looking at COY award, about the only one of them that should take the previous year into account.


I also have no allegiance to either team. I do think that SLU will be too much for Hobart this ear, hell Temgoua was their best player last night, although Horcherer and Josh Sharlow did come in close behind him. But Garrett Sharlow only had six points, the Saints just ave so many weapons.

[magicman]

buck,
No big deal and it didn't really make a difference because they played at SLU but   Hobart was the #2 seed and Skidmore was the #3 seed this year. And just maybe that Coach of the Year voting was justified last night when Hobart took the rubber match from Skidmore on a neutral court. Just a thought as I don't have an allegiance to either team.  

I guess the LL site had the seedings wrong, that's where I got it from.

Metz certainly got the better of Flockerzi last night, and their finish was pretty impressive. I was just using some historical perspective when looking at COY award, about the only one of them that should take the previous year into account.


I also have no allegiance to either team. I do think that SLU will be too much for Hobart this ear, hell Temgoua was their best player last night, although Horcherer and Josh Sharlow did come in close behind him. But Garrett Sharlow only had six points, the Saints just ave so many weapons.

buck,
You're right they do have Skidmore as the #2 seed. I got it from D3Hoops scoreboard which listed Skidmore at Hobart and the lower seed is always listed as the visitor on a neutral court. It looks like the tiebreaker went in Skidmore's favor because RPI won the tiebreaker over Clarkson for 5th place. RPI and Clarkson split their head to head matchups but RPI split with SLU while Clarkson went 0-2 against the Saints. Then Skidmore won over Hobart because both Hobart and Skidmore were swept by SLU, they both swept Union, and Skidmore was 2-0 against RPI while Hobart was 1-1. If Clarkson had won the tiebreaker over RPI for 5th place then Hobart would have been the 2 seed  because they were 2-0 against Clarkson and Skidmore was 1-1. Whew! Did you get all that.

[magicman]

I just received word from Plattsburgh St. that the SUNYAC Championship game between Oneonta St and Plattsburgh St will be a live webcast by PSTV this afternoon at 4:00 PM. Here's the link:

http://primelink1.net/

[magicman]

St. Lawrence takes the Liberty League Tournament Championship with a 109-90 win over Hobart today and claim the automatic bid to the NCAA tournament.
Saints break open a close game that was tied at 17 with 12:19 left to play in the first half. 5 straight points by SLU's Andy Hoercher triggered a 17-4 Saints run that found the Statemen on the short end of a 34-21 score with 6:20 left to play in the period. Hobart would never get the deficit below double figures for the remainder of the game. The Saints went into the break with a 47-34 lead.
SLU continued to increase their lead in the early stages of the 2nd half and had their largest lead of 20 points with 14:40 left to play. Hobart would twice cut the lead to 10 points but the Saints had an answer every time they tried to mount a comeback. Up by 20 again with 5:53 to go the Saints cruised to the finish line to claim their 1st tournament crown since the 2006-07 season. It also marked the 1st time since the 2005-06 season that the #1 seed captured the title. Hamilton was the last team to do so that year.  Saints had 5 players in double figures led by Andy Hoercher, the games high scorer with 22 points. Hoercher also added 5 rebounds, 4 assists and 2 steals and was chosen to the All Tournament Team. Ralph Temgoua scored 21 points,had a game high 8 rebounds and added 4 assists. he was chosen as the Most Outstanding Player of the Tournament. Nick Meunier who was next in the scorer's parade had 18 points, with 6 boards, and Terry Parham chipped in with 10 points. Senior Captain Josh Sharlow, fresh off his Player of the year honors had 11 points along with a team high 7 assists.

Hobart placed 4 players in double figures with Matt Pebole and Tim LLewellyn leading the way with 19 each. Stefan Thompson added 15 points along with a game high 9 assists, while Rezin Davis contributed 14 points for the Statesmen.
The Saints out rebounded Hobart 46-32. Saint Lawrence will be making their 3rd trip to the NCAA tournament in the past 4 years.

[magicman]

Here are the teams that it looks like the East Region will send to the NCAA Tournament.


Plattsburgh State---SUNYAC  Automatic Bid
Nazareth---Empire 8  Automatic Bid
St. Lawrence---Liberty League  Automatic Bid
Medaille--- Alleghany Mountain Collegiate Conference  Automatic Bid
SUNYIT/Wells winner--- North Eastern Athletic Conference  Automatic Bid
St John Fisher---Pool C At Large Bid
Oneonta State---Pool C At Largr Bid

Ithaca will come up just short of getting a bid as they would be the next East Region team on the table for consideration.

Last year we had 6 teams make the tournament. This year we will have 7 teams get in. The difference is the SUNYAC only got 1 bid last year while this year they get 2.

[bomber3]

SUNYIT @ Plattsburgh
Naz vs Medaille @ Plattsburgh

Brooklyn @ St John Fisher
Brandeis vs St. Lawrence @ St John Fisher

Oneonta @ Franklin and Marshall

[with age came?]

Ouch for SLU- nasty match up from the get go and then facing a potential game against StJF on their home court?  Tough tests for young SLU squad.  May they rise to the occasion.  I think I'm going to go over on the YAC & e-8 boards and "stir the pot" and say that I think the ECAC winner will come out of the LL-(sometimes I'm a little evil-hehe!)

[magicman]

Ouch for SLU- nasty match up from the get go and then facing a potential game against StJF on their home court?  Tough tests for young SLU squad.  May they rise to the occasion.  I think I'm going to go over on the YAC & e-8 boards and "stir the pot" and say that I think the ECAC winner will come out of the LL-(sometimes I'm a little evil-hehe!)

with age,
Are you planning to take in the SLU game against Brandeis this weekend down there? Or you could always come up to Plattsburgh and stay at my house and watch (hopefully) 2 good Plattsburgh St. games this weekend. Saints will have to be at their best to beat Brandeis but it's possible. They have some chinks in their armor that past Bandeis teams(2 yrs ago ) didn't have.

[with age came?]

Thanks for the invite Magic but my son may be coming home to celebrate his birthday (he's still up in the air because of work).  Have a buddy whose son is on Medaille (Berkun) smart tough guard just like his old man. Naz - Medaille game could be a real good one.  Think Card - SUNYIT will be close but cards win pulling away at the end by about 10.  Also think the cards handle the next game too if they play to their potential.  If they get to Williams - you have got to play the games....and who knows? If my son wants to we may try to go up and see games at SJF pod. Brandeis is a tough draw for SLU but they are playing pretty well now and they did "take care of business" in LL tournament so I will hope for the best!

[magicman]

Thanks for the invite Magic but my son may be coming home to celebrate his birthday (he's still up in the air because of work).  Have a buddy whose son is on Medaille (Berkun) smart tough guard just like his old man. Naz - Medaille game could be a real good one.  Think Card - SUNYIT will be close but cards win pulling away at the end by about 10.  Also think the cards handle the next game too if they play to their potential.  If they get to Williams - you have got to play the games....and who knows? If my son wants to we may try to go up and see games at SJF pod. Brandeis is a tough draw for SLU but they are playing pretty well now and they did "take care of business" in LL tournament so I will hope for the best!

with age,
You know you're always welcome.

Here's my guesses on tonight's action involving New York teams.

Plattsburgh St. 82    SUNYIT  70
Medaille 76   Nazareth  72
St. John Fisher 73  Brooklyn 65
Brandeis 77  St. Lawrence  68
Oneonta 68  Franklin and Marshall  66

Hope I'm wrong on the St. Lawrence score.

Naz/Medaille is tough game to pick because of Medaille's weak schedule, but they do have an impressive win over John Carroll.

Oneonta with a tough game against D3Hoops #20th ranked Franklin and Marshall  and are the dogs here but the Red Dragons own a win over #10th ranked William Paterson and I think they can get it done here if they play to their potential. 

Time to go get my tickets for the games in Plattsburgh tonight. GO CARDS!!!

[magicman]

Tonights results:

SUNYIT comes to PLattsburgh and downs the Cardinals 71-65. Diloo Brown scorches the nets for 31 points on 11x21 fg, 6x11 3's 3x4 ft. SUNYIT will take on Medaille Saturday evening for the right to go to the sweet 16.

Medaille comes from 11 points down 60-49 with 5:27 to play and gets a basket by Keith Hack with 1 second to go that ties it up and sends it to overtime. Mavericks jump out to a 4 point lead and are never caught as they down Nazareth 78-72

Brandeis downs St. Lawrence 76-64. The Judges are down 5 in the early going but catch the Saints at 17 apiece with 10:24 to play in the 1st. 20-7 run by Brandeis gives them a 13 point advantage and they were never threatened. Brandeis led at one point late in the 2nd by 25 points.

St John Fisher wins a tight one against Brooklyn 60-56. Cardinals end the game on an 11-2 run to advance against Brandeis tomorrow night. Down 54-49 with 4:27 to go Fishers gets back to back 3 pointers from Jordan Koch and Conner Henderson 24 seconds apart to grab a 55-54 lead they would never relinquish.

Franklin and Marshall defeats Oneonta St. 91-77 and will move on to face Merchant Marine on Saturday night. Diplomats break away from a 39-35 halftime advantage to open up a double digit lead with 12:45 remaining in the 2nd half. Red Dragon could never get within shouting distance after that.

 

[with age came?]

Did not expect SLU to win against Brandeis.  I am shocked that Plattsburg lost to SUNYIT.  Thought Medaille Naz would be a good game and it sounds like a barn burner.  Magic was only off 2 points from that one.  Got to bummed about the cards.

[magicman]

Brockport with an 18-0 run midway through the 1st half takes command against Hobart. Golden Eagles turn 11-8 deficit into a 26-11 advantage and coast into the break up 43-28.

[buck1053]

Gonna be an E8-SUNYAC championship tilt in the ECAC Upstate Men's Basketball Championship this afternoon as both LL teams that threw their hats into the ring fell on Saturday, both getting drilled.

No. 2 SUNY Brockport throttled No. 3 Hobart, 86-59; while No. 1 Ithaca drubbed No. 4 RPI, 88-67, to advance.

The championship game will be played at 2 p.m. this afternoon at SUNY Brockport.

Am guessing Skidmore declined/wasn't allowed to play in the ECAC's since they had a better record than RPI. At first blush, also surprised Union wasn't in the ECAC mix, but then realized it was only their league record (8-6) that was better than RPI's (7-7), overall though, the Engineers were 15-9 while the Dutchmen were 12-13.

[with age came?]

Apparently I could not have been more wrong.  LL teams both ran into buzz saws as Brockport and Ithaca shoot 56% and 65% in the first halves and coast.  Either they were hot or LL teams did not play any defense at all. Though 65% from 3 point land is pretty impressive even without defense. With SJF being eliminated every league & team I follow is toast.  It is pretty sad when I am down to rooting for SUNYIT.....