MBB: Liberty League

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magicman

Here are the updated standings through Tuesday 1-31:

               Conference           Overall

Hobart         8-1                   15-3

Clarkson      6-3                   13-5

SLU            7-4                   11-8

Skidmore    5-3                   11-6

RPI             6-5                    9-10

Union          5-5                    12-6

Vassar        2-6                     6-11

RIT            2-7                     6-12

Bard          1-8                     3-14
   

with age came?

Tough loss for my Knights as SLU returns the favor and beats them on the Knights home court.  Boy what a potential logjam for the 2-4 spots. I haven't done the math but there could be a lot of clubs in the 9-7 range at the end of the season.  Only Hobart is safe.(For now) ;D

with age came?

Clarkson protects the house with a victory over the visiting RIT squad.  Better bring the A game tomorrow with the Statesmen coming in.

with age came?

Especially considering the Hobart team was UPSET by Saints.  "The plot thickens!!" :o

7express

What's thr format in the LL playoffs again??  Top 4, and all the games are played at the site of the regular season champion, correct??

with age came?

Am familiar with this league and you are correct. Only the top four play.  Ties are decided head to head first and in the case of a split I believe it is victory against the highest seed during the season so Saints and RPI with their victories over Hobart (the team I believe along with Skidmore) will win the league will help then most likely with ties. This league will be a dog fight between six pretty good teams with Hobart and Skidmore probably on top and SLU, Clarkson, RPI and Union pounding on each other for 3 and 4.  Would not be surprised if two teams get invited to the ECAC tournament from the Liberty League this year. This is now a one dance league again with the Hobart loss tonight as far as the NCAA go unless somebody runs the table and loses in the league finals.

OldDanny

I do agree that the LL is only going to get one team in the dance....unless Hobart wins out until the finals.  That would leave the Statesmen at 22-5, which could get them there.  Their body of work doesn't really scream tournament though.  They beat a solid Nazareth, but lost to Rochester and F and M.  Skidmore and Clarkson on the road are good wins, but is it enough?  That may be the only scenario that gets more than one team in.  I'm not sure if any other team has a legitimate chance of playing on except for Hobart, unless they win the league.

with age came?

What a great week for SLU.  Barring a complete collapse they have played themselves into a playoff spot with wins against Clarkson and Hobart as well as RIT.  My knights are in trouble.  I can see Union RPI and Clarkson all at 9-7 and if I am right I believe RPI will win the tie breaker because of their win against Hobart.  It may come down to a must win in the last game of the league season at RPI. Of course a win against Union at Union could change that scenario as well as an upset by Bard or Vassar.

magicman

Quote from: with age came? on February 07, 2012, 01:52:09 AM
What a great week for SLU.  Barring a complete collapse they have played themselves into a playoff spot with wins against Clarkson and Hobart as well as RIT.  My knights are in trouble.  I can see Union RPI and Clarkson all at 9-7 and if I am right I believe RPI will win the tie breaker because of their win against Hobart.  It may come down to a must win in the last game of the league season at RPI. Of course a win against Union at Union could change that scenario as well as an upset by Bard or Vassar.

SLU has pretty much clinched 3rd place. The question is can they catch Skidmore for 2nd place. Their final regular season game will determine that as the Thoroughbreds travel to Canton on Feb.14th and the 2nd seed will be on the line.   

Still haven't heard from you regarding this weekend. Did you get my email?   

hopefan

RPI    7-5       @RIT, @Hobart, @Skidmore, vs Clarkson
Clarkson 7-5    vs Vassar, Vs Bard, @ Union, @RPI
Union  7-6      @RIT, Vs Clarkson,  @Skidmore

Remember Union beat RPI 2x,    RPI beat Hobart

For MY RPI guys to get in, can't tie with Union.... Clarkson won't lose to Vassar or Bard   so it looks to me like RPI's tough path in would be beating RIT and either Hobart or Skidmore, Clarkson eliminating Union, and coming down to RPI-clarkson on last day... RPI beats Clarkson, finishing in a tie with them at 10-6, and wins the tiebreaker with the win over Hobart...  of course, what do they earn, a number 4 slot and another game with Hobart.....   VERY tough path for the 'runnin and gunnin' Engineers
The only thing not to be liked in Florida is no D3 hoops!!!

with age came?

Real dog fight for that last spot.  My heart hopes for Clarkson.  But 3 road games against tough opponents will be a difficult task.  Not coming up North this weekend - but I may try to catch tomorrows game at Buff State to see if the Bengals get their "measure of revenge" against Gen.

magicman

Quote from: with age came? on February 10, 2012, 02:04:30 AM
Real dog fight for that last spot.  My heart hopes for Clarkson.  But 3 road games against tough opponents will be a difficult task.  Not coming up North this weekend - but I may try to catch tomorrows game at Buff State to see if the Bengals get their "measure of revenge" against Gen.

You picked a fine time to tell me you're not coming to Potsdam tomorrow. I've got us hotel rooms, dinner reservations and a party to attend after the game and you're not coming? :P

with age came?

Sorry Magic - but I may be bad luck anyway.  Went to watch the Bengals and they lost to Gen even though it was pretty clear they were the better team.  My son kind of wanted his space up there and I have to work tomorrow.  Already have put in way too many hours this week but sometimes you just have to do wehat you have to do.  I've got to make sure I see the Knights before the season ends!

with age came?

Pretty clear to me that season is going to end earlier rather than later with a loss to Vassar.  The Knights have to most likely win out to have a spot in the playoffs.  Wednesday was such a perfect day in athletics for me - got to go to the Sabres thrashing of the Bruins, Duke wins (steals) a game in the last second and Syracuse beats Georgetown in OT!  Then comes Friday and practically every team I care about falls flat to inferior opponents in my d-3 world. :'(

magicman

Quote from: with age came? on February 11, 2012, 01:05:44 AM
Pretty clear to me that season is going to end earlier rather than later with a loss to Vassar.  The Knights have to most likely win out to have a spot in the playoffs.  Wednesday was such a perfect day in athletics for me - got to go to the Sabres thrashing of the Bruins, Duke wins (steals) a game in the last second and Syracuse beats Georgetown in OT!  Then comes Friday and practically every team I care about falls flat to inferior opponents in my d-3 world. :'(

Your heart can still hope for Clarkson as RIT did them a favor and beat RPI Friday night 81-76. RPI, Union and Clarkson all tied for final playoff spot at 7-6. Knights just need to suck it up and beat Union, then RPI, next weekend and their in.