MBB: Liberty League

[Hoaf]

Hamilton loses at Skidmore in OT 84-88... ugh!
Hobart loses at Union 72-85

[shooters]

Skidmore beats Hamilton? WTF? I take back any comments about being better than anybody without TK, becuz clearly this Hamilton team has some serious freaking issues! I'm borderline speechless!

[met_fan]

That's easily Hamilton's worst loss in the 12 or so years I've followed them.

[DDirty22]

Mean while Vassar sweeps this weekend at Clarkson and St. Lawrence.  Any believers yet?

[bucketsallday]

keep sleepin on vassar. two ot wins on the longest road trip of the season. sounds like a winning attitude to me. these hamilton fans hatin on the brewers need to focus on their own teams issues.

anyone familiar with the hamilton program can answer this question for me - I haven't seen any hamilton games yet this year, but twice they have been down 20 points in conference and made a comeback pressing all over the court. Why dont they play this style the whole game?

[Hoaf]

To let you guys know. TK wasn't out of the Union and Skidmore games because of an illness. Apparently, his back is hurt pretty bad and Tobin didn't want him to go on the road trip. Instead he wanted him to rest it this weekend and take it off.

[Hoaf]

Vassar is starting to look legit after these last two games. I'm buying it now.

...and I don't know why Hamilton doesn't full court press all game. They lay down the press and force turnovers pretty well when they set up that D. Who knows? Maybe after this last loss they might start playing the press all the time. I think it'd be smart.

[shooters]

I know this for fact, Hamilton presses for 40 minutes, they don't press here or there and drop back from time to time. IF anyone knows anything about Anderson he presses the entire time. I think if you look at the stats of this game further you will see some borderline insanity. This game should be looked at in a way that should blow anyone who posts/reads anything on this website. It took me a minute and actually I double checked this with two sites.......apparently Hamilton out-rebounded Skid and get this and someone other than me might want to verify this but from what I can see took 84 shots to skidmore's 44!!!! IF this is correct and i think that it is it would mean that Hamilton took 40 more shots than skidmore and still lost the game. 40 more shots, this has got to peak some interest in even the most passive fan. I sit here right now and cannot believe that stat. it is mind boggling! Tell me i'm insane.

back to the press, I think that Hamilton players have little to no heart and only play hard when they absolutely have to. There I said it and also I'm beginning to believe in Vassar, ok? Great weekend for them and the conversation should be what the flying hell happened to Clarkson, they went from hey conference leaders to 1-4 probably sealing their fate in being out of the conference tournament, all in five games. Interesting

[Hoaf]

Nice stat shooters. I saw the 84-44 FG attempts and was astounded that they lost considering the FG % comparisons weren't glaring.

Also, if they full court press the whole game and I'm not seeing it.  Hamilton must be really bad about implementing it in the first half. Which could be an argument for how Hamilton starts out slow. But compared to the press I see Hamilton play in the first half I've seen better full court presses in some high school games.

[Hoaf]

Actually, the FG% were lopsided. Skidmore with 61.4% of shots made and Hamilton 38.1% of shots made.

[thebear]

Regarding what happened to Clarkson?

I saw Clarkson last week.  Rigg-Reeves, their starting PG was on the bench in civvies.  I believe he's hurt.  He and EJ Harrison make a strong athletic guard combo, but there is a serious drop off in guard quality after them.  It showed against SLU, and continues to show by their weekend results.

[woot returns]

i dont want to say i told you so shooters, but yeh. hamilton will suffer some great losses this year with tobin at the helm.

[shooters]

Woot,

I've been patiently waiting for your comments regarding the Hamilton loss, but you can't pin this one on Tobin, He didn't have lifeless TK or his guard Alston. I can pin this on the lack of shooters or shooting that occurred however and that is basically the recruiting/players which is his responsibility. Thanks for the update on the TK situation, but how can TK have back problems, he doesn't play hard enough to pull any muscles. I agree that the loss is a disaster, and that no one can argue. Did you see the stats of the game? Hamilton shot 40 more shots- how is that even possible? One more bad loss (and I don't consider the Clarkson loss a bad one) then I will bow down to your wisdom on Hamilton and their season. Should be interesting to see what happens w/ Williams.

[Hoaf]

Did you ever think that TK wasn't playing hard enough because his back hurt in the first place? It wasn't noticeable to you that his scoring dropped by about 10 points a game and his rebounds fell by 5 after the first few games?

Don't be hating on TK.

[cu_bball]

Regarding what happened to Clarkson?

I saw Clarkson last week.  Rigg-Reeves, their starting PG was on the bench in civvies.  I believe he's hurt.  He and EJ Harrison make a strong athletic guard combo, but there is a serious drop off in guard quality after them.  It showed against SLU, and continues to show by their weekend results.

Brandon Rigg-Reives has been hurt for about 4 weeks now with a miniscus problem occuring in practice..also hurt is freshman Waryn  McCullough who was a big presence earlier in the year sparking a few 2nd half comebacks...so clarkson has lost the speed and defense of Rigg-Reives and the rebounding and scoring ablility of Waryn  McCullough of the bench that complemented second year/first year player Elson Pickering